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Almost 2016 and still have 2-3hrs+ maintenance?

  • JD2013
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    So, you want it fixed but you never want it to go down?

    Just .... shhh. Thank you.
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  • ADarklore
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    Oh, and... they don't have maintenance every week... and there have only been a couple times that I recall that it has gone above and beyond the usual timeframe.
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  • KerinKor
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    Wolfshead wrote: »
    I would know what mmo you have been playing that only have 30 min maintenance for those i have play do have up 5 hour maintenance only time the have hade a so call fast maintenance is when the just restart the server other wise the have as long maintenace as ESO if not longer sometime.
    One game I play NEVER has scheduled maintenance and the servers run for several weeks between those times when they're taken down for CONTENT updates: FFXI.

    Been like that for years and is definitely not running on 'state of the art hardware even as that was at the time ESO's servers were.
    Edited by KerinKor on December 8, 2015 1:40PM
  • Xendyn
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    Do you remember a year ago when we didn't get any maint at all for about a month?

    No?

    Well hope that doesn't happen again, you'll be begging for maint in no time.

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  • vyrusb23
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    Troneon wrote: »
    I have played a lot of mmo's and other games, some new some old and even then maintenance is never more than 30 mins at max an hour or some that don't even do regular maintenance and do not need it or the do it while dropping content patches....

    So why do we still have 2hr+ weekly maintenance in the year 2015 almost 2016?

    Seems a little unnecessary?

    Is there nothing people won't cry about these days? sheesh .... :'(
  • robkrush
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    I'm confused by your comment about "almost 2016". You should know that things are not becoming easier. Things are becoming more complicated and games are released on many platforms AND then there are hackers and cyber terrorists. This stuff takes time. Chill.
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  • Tankqull
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    Troneon wrote: »
    Troneon wrote: »
    found1779 wrote: »
    Troneon wrote: »
    I have played a lot of mmo's and other games, some new some old and even then maintenance is never more than 30 mins at max an hour or some that don't even do regular maintenance and do not need it or the do it while dropping content patches....

    So why do we still have 2hr+ weekly maintenance in the year 2015 almost 2016?

    Seems a little unnecessary?

    What are you crying about at least you all on pc get your updates a month before us console players so what if it takes them a couple hours to update it you want it done right don't you

    The reason consoles dont get updates often is because of Sony and Microsoft control the entire user experience from start to finish and make devs jump through extra hoops before signing off on anything....

    Another reason why PC will always be better than consoles....more user control and the users ability to modify...can't do nothing on console without sony/ms saying so...plus the idea of having to pay for an internet connection and then paying microsoft again just to use it...baffles me...

    Standardized specs on consoles = less lag

    na na

    Console...

    nWzMsap.jpg

    PC...

    40F5sWs.jpg

    Nuff said..

    Because that depicts the lag involved?

    Seriously most of the issues I read about concerning the lag in PvP here on the forums, I have never experienced on console. It doesn't take a computer genius to understand that tens of thousands of differently specced devices would have problems interacting with each other, causing lag..

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    sorry but grafics has nothing to do with the lag problems we are observing - its tied to the computations the hosting server has to do and or its way communicating with the users client as its to much exiding ZOS bandwith but nothing ´with the graficsettings.
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  • Uriel_Nocturne
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    Troneon wrote: »
    I have played a lot of mmo's and other games, some new some old and even then maintenance is never more than 30 mins at max an hour or some that don't even do regular maintenance and do not need it or the do it while dropping content patches....

    So why do we still have 2hr+ weekly maintenance in the year 2015 almost 2016?

    Seems a little unnecessary?
    By the Gods... the things you entitled brats complain about...


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  • Uriel_Nocturne
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    Ayantir wrote: »
    This is a Bethesda game
    Nooooo.

    It's a Zenimax Online Studios game.

    Bethesda Softworks is only the publisher, and the publisher has nothing to do with the presence/fixing of any game bugs in any way.

    While they're all owned by the same parent company, the roles of the various companies couldn't be more different.

    Corporate Business 101.


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  • KICHZY
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    People really do like to complain about anything. It goes down once a week to make your experience better, The fact you went out of your way to create this thread is nothing more than pathetic. Play something else within that timeframe or go for a pint...idk. But please stop being a whinny B!TCH, because truth be told weekly maintenance isn't an issue, It's you that has issues if it's that big of a concern to you.
  • icontested
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    Troneon wrote: »
    I have played a lot of mmo's and other games, some new some old and even then maintenance is never more than 30 mins at max an hour or some that don't even do regular maintenance and do not need it or the do it while dropping content patches....

    So why do we still have 2hr+ weekly maintenance in the year 2015 almost 2016?

    Seems a little unnecessary?
    By the Gods... the things you entitled brats complain about...

    That was a bit rough. I agree with you, but entitled brats have feelings too. I guess you have no patience to sugar coat
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  • Uriel_Nocturne
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    icontested wrote: »
    Troneon wrote: »
    I have played a lot of mmo's and other games, some new some old and even then maintenance is never more than 30 mins at max an hour or some that don't even do regular maintenance and do not need it or the do it while dropping content patches....

    So why do we still have 2hr+ weekly maintenance in the year 2015 almost 2016?

    Seems a little unnecessary?
    By the Gods... the things you entitled brats complain about...

    That was a bit rough. I agree with you, but entitled brats have feelings too. I guess you have no patience to sugar coat
    Not really.

    I'm raising two teenagers... Patience is a luxury I can no longer afford. lol


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  • Alec508
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    These complaints are the best
  • icontested
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    icontested wrote: »
    Troneon wrote: »
    I have played a lot of mmo's and other games, some new some old and even then maintenance is never more than 30 mins at max an hour or some that don't even do regular maintenance and do not need it or the do it while dropping content patches....

    So why do we still have 2hr+ weekly maintenance in the year 2015 almost 2016?

    Seems a little unnecessary?
    By the Gods... the things you entitled brats complain about...

    That was a bit rough. I agree with you, but entitled brats have feelings too. I guess you have no patience to sugar coat
    Not really.

    I'm raising two teenagers... Patience is a luxury I can no longer afford. lol

    Congrats
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  • Callous2208
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    Getting so upset at a game being down for a few hours of scheduled maintainence, every few weeks, should concern you. Perhaps it's time to take a break and evaluate the effect it's having on your metal health.
  • Uriel_Nocturne
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    Getting so upset at a game being down for a few hours of scheduled maintainence, every few weeks, should concern you. Perhaps it's time to take a break and evaluate the effect it's having on your metal health.
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  • Troneon
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    and to think I got flamed for saying what everyone is saying now lol
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  • Sallington
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    Troneon wrote: »
    Troneon wrote: »
    found1779 wrote: »
    Troneon wrote: »
    I have played a lot of mmo's and other games, some new some old and even then maintenance is never more than 30 mins at max an hour or some that don't even do regular maintenance and do not need it or the do it while dropping content patches....

    So why do we still have 2hr+ weekly maintenance in the year 2015 almost 2016?

    Seems a little unnecessary?

    What are you crying about at least you all on pc get your updates a month before us console players so what if it takes them a couple hours to update it you want it done right don't you

    The reason consoles dont get updates often is because of Sony and Microsoft control the entire user experience from start to finish and make devs jump through extra hoops before signing off on anything....

    Another reason why PC will always be better than consoles....more user control and the users ability to modify...can't do nothing on console without sony/ms saying so...plus the idea of having to pay for an internet connection and then paying microsoft again just to use it...baffles me...

    Standardized specs on consoles = less lag

    na na

    Console...

    nWzMsap.jpg

    PC...

    40F5sWs.jpg

    Nuff said..

    Because that depicts the lag involved?

    Seriously most of the issues I read about concerning the lag in PvP here on the forums, I have never experienced on console. It doesn't take a computer genius to understand that tens of thousands of differently specced devices would have problems interacting with each other, causing lag..

    That's one of the dumbest lines I've read on these forums.

    Please explain how my computer specs affect another user in ANY way. Any way at all will do.

    Edited by Sallington on January 5, 2016 8:13PM
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  • kyle.wilson
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    Ayantir wrote: »
    This is a Bethesda game
    Nooooo.

    It's a Zenimax Online Studios game.

    Bethesda Softworks is only the publisher, and the publisher has nothing to do with the presence/fixing of any game bugs in any way.

    While they're all owned by the same parent company, the roles of the various companies couldn't be more different.

    Corporate Business 101.

    And zennimax was founded by the founder of Bethesda. So really the money side of the same company.
  • Ruben
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    Because that depicts the lag involved?

    Seriously most of the issues I read about concerning the lag in PvP here on the forums, I have never experienced on console. It doesn't take a computer genius to understand that tens of thousands of differently specced devices would have problems interacting with each other, causing lag..

    That makes 0 sense. You could play with a Pentium II right beside me and my computer (and internet connection) would not even realize you're there, there is absolutely no impact for anyone else when you run on crappy hardware.

    I'm trying to guess why you would think that nonsense is true, but I can't come up with anything plausible. Do you really think the server receives packets encoded with hardware specs and then they have to decode them and reencode for each different player's PC's specs?
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  • Incrediclint
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    Troneon wrote: »
    Troneon wrote: »
    found1779 wrote: »
    Troneon wrote: »
    I have played a lot of mmo's and other games, some new some old and even then maintenance is never more than 30 mins at max an hour or some that don't even do regular maintenance and do not need it or the do it while dropping content patches....

    So why do we still have 2hr+ weekly maintenance in the year 2015 almost 2016?

    Seems a little unnecessary?

    What are you crying about at least you all on pc get your updates a month before us console players so what if it takes them a couple hours to update it you want it done right don't you

    The reason consoles dont get updates often is because of Sony and Microsoft control the entire user experience from start to finish and make devs jump through extra hoops before signing off on anything....

    Another reason why PC will always be better than consoles....more user control and the users ability to modify...can't do nothing on console without sony/ms saying so...plus the idea of having to pay for an internet connection and then paying microsoft again just to use it...baffles me...

    Standardized specs on consoles = less lag

    na na

    Console...

    nWzMsap.jpg

    PC...

    40F5sWs.jpg

    Nuff said..

    On my PC with everything set to high (shadows on ultra) it looks closer to the console pic then the PC pic. Damned fog everywhere. Is there a setting I'm missing? (View distance set to max)
  • Sallington
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    Troneon wrote: »
    Troneon wrote: »
    found1779 wrote: »
    Troneon wrote: »
    I have played a lot of mmo's and other games, some new some old and even then maintenance is never more than 30 mins at max an hour or some that don't even do regular maintenance and do not need it or the do it while dropping content patches....

    So why do we still have 2hr+ weekly maintenance in the year 2015 almost 2016?

    Seems a little unnecessary?

    What are you crying about at least you all on pc get your updates a month before us console players so what if it takes them a couple hours to update it you want it done right don't you

    The reason consoles dont get updates often is because of Sony and Microsoft control the entire user experience from start to finish and make devs jump through extra hoops before signing off on anything....

    Another reason why PC will always be better than consoles....more user control and the users ability to modify...can't do nothing on console without sony/ms saying so...plus the idea of having to pay for an internet connection and then paying microsoft again just to use it...baffles me...

    Standardized specs on consoles = less lag

    na na

    Console...

    nWzMsap.jpg

    PC...

    40F5sWs.jpg

    Nuff said..

    On my PC with everything set to high (shadows on ultra) it looks closer to the console pic then the PC pic. Damned fog everywhere. Is there a setting I'm missing? (View distance set to max)

    I believe that's some SweetFX goodness. It's actually a terrible example of how good SweetFX can make the game look.
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  • zergbase_ESO
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    Troneon wrote: »
    I have played a lot of mmo's and other games, some new some old and even then maintenance is never more than 30 mins at max an hour or some that don't even do regular maintenance and do not need it or the do it while dropping content patches....

    So why do we still have 2hr+ weekly maintenance in the year 2015 almost 2016?

    Seems a little unnecessary?

    Become IT worker and see how many things are needed to be done on servers in corporate world during maintaince. Clearly you haven't much of clue in that aspect of technology world.

    Updates, Consistency checks, Cleaning up of databases, Frimware/Bios updates if needed or have time frame for it. Server rebuilds or switch overs as well hardware tests to be sure it is still reliable and good.

    But hey not like I do similar work for a living.
  • AchlysNox
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    Troneon wrote: »
    I have played a lot of mmo's and other games, some new some old and even then maintenance is never more than 30 mins at max an hour or some that don't even do regular maintenance and do not need it or the do it while dropping content patches....

    So why do we still have 2hr+ weekly maintenance in the year 2015 almost 2016?

    Seems a little unnecessary?

    Become IT worker and see how many things are needed to be done on servers in corporate world during maintaince. Clearly you haven't much of clue in that aspect of technology world.

    Updates, Consistency checks, Cleaning up of databases, Frimware/Bios updates if needed or have time frame for it. Server rebuilds or switch overs as well hardware tests to be sure it is still reliable and good.

    But hey not like I do similar work for a living.

    Of course, if you have the scratch, high availability systems with ample redundancy can alleviate such things, and leave your users with a more smooth experience. I guess it depends on how much is spent on systems and the staff to run it. I have to say, with the frequency of problems they're experiencing, it might be worth for ZOS to consider ramping up in this department.

  • zergbase_ESO
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    AchlysNox wrote: »
    Troneon wrote: »
    I have played a lot of mmo's and other games, some new some old and even then maintenance is never more than 30 mins at max an hour or some that don't even do regular maintenance and do not need it or the do it while dropping content patches....

    So why do we still have 2hr+ weekly maintenance in the year 2015 almost 2016?

    Seems a little unnecessary?

    Become IT worker and see how many things are needed to be done on servers in corporate world during maintaince. Clearly you haven't much of clue in that aspect of technology world.

    Updates, Consistency checks, Cleaning up of databases, Frimware/Bios updates if needed or have time frame for it. Server rebuilds or switch overs as well hardware tests to be sure it is still reliable and good.

    But hey not like I do similar work for a living.

    Of course, if you have the scratch, high availability systems with ample redundancy can alleviate such things, and leave your users with a more smooth experience. I guess it depends on how much is spent on systems and the staff to run it. I have to say, with the frequency of problems they're experiencing, it might be worth for ZOS to consider ramping up in this department.

    This I can agree with. But unless they post what they're doing we only have guesses. Hardware changes take time of course. Also even with systems with built in redundancy you still designate time to run those checks regardless of expense placed into system. Data is most important thing in server work.
  • Greevir
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    Troneon wrote: »
    Troneon wrote: »
    found1779 wrote: »
    Troneon wrote: »
    I have played a lot of mmo's and other games, some new some old and even then maintenance is never more than 30 mins at max an hour or some that don't even do regular maintenance and do not need it or the do it while dropping content patches....

    So why do we still have 2hr+ weekly maintenance in the year 2015 almost 2016?

    Seems a little unnecessary?

    What are you crying about at least you all on pc get your updates a month before us console players so what if it takes them a couple hours to update it you want it done right don't you

    The reason consoles dont get updates often is because of Sony and Microsoft control the entire user experience from start to finish and make devs jump through extra hoops before signing off on anything....

    Another reason why PC will always be better than consoles....more user control and the users ability to modify...can't do nothing on console without sony/ms saying so...plus the idea of having to pay for an internet connection and then paying microsoft again just to use it...baffles me...

    Standardized specs on consoles = less lag

    na na

    Console...

    nWzMsap.jpg

    PC...

    40F5sWs.jpg

    Nuff said..

    For some reason, I prefer the console pic. Far more atmospheric than that PC pic.
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  • Troneon
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  • Luhx
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    Troneon wrote: »
    I have played a lot of mmo's and other games, some new some old and even then maintenance is never more than 30 mins at max an hour or some that don't even do regular maintenance and do not need it or the do it while dropping content patches....

    So why do we still have 2hr+ weekly maintenance in the year 2015 almost 2016?

    Seems a little unnecessary?

    ESOTU is a huge game. DCUO takes about 1-2 hours maintenance. I can guarantee you though that if ESO maintenance was only 30 mins, you'd be back on forums complaining about nothing being fixed/nothing working properly.
    Currently playing ESO. Waiting for The Division to drop; think I might go back to playing CoD again.
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    Personally, I am willing to guarantee that some people on these forums would still be here to blindly fanboy ZOS even if they publically announced that all income from the game would go to fund IS so they could overthrow western civilization
  • JD2013
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    AngryNord wrote: »
    Personally, I am willing to guarantee that some people on these forums would still be here to blindly fanboy ZOS even if they publically announced that all income from the game would go to fund IS so they could overthrow western civilization

    So .... Why are you here? :smile:

    Legitimate question. If I hated a game as much as you seem to, I would uninstall it and walk away.
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