NOOOOOOOO

Tipsy247

Why do we have to bring the black-senche panther back to the crown store? I was one of the few proud owners of it on the xbox. It was my own little reward for being an active player before the consoles came. I might sound like I'm whining here, but unique rewards are what a lot of players strive for.

OmniDevil

Your first MMO, maybe?

This is how things work. Further, the mount is still unique. Unique in that it's the only "Panther" Senche mount in the game. "Limited" and "Unique" are different.

LadyShauna

I'm happy that the panther senche mount is returning. I already have one, but I'd like to get another mount someday that I missed because I was out of town that weekend. If this mount returns, I have hope that the one I need will return in a year's time. Someday you'll be happy to get a second chance to get something you missed the first time around.

Bebopgroove

They weren't loyalty items -_______- You still have your exclusive tiger senche, calm down.

Danikat

I also have one of the limited-time mounts (in my case the clouded senche leopard) and I love it when I find someone else with the same one. One day in Daggerfall there was 4 of us all together and that was really cool, it was like a (very disorganised) club.

But more importantly I hate it when someone asks me how to get something I have and I have to tell them they can't. I'd much rather everyone had the opportunity to get the items they want than that I, or anyone else, gets to imagine they're special for having it.

Tipsy247

I admit, I was probably wrong in posting this. In more clarification (because I was very irritated at the time), I understand why they brought the panther back. I guess my overall irritation stems from the fact that there are no unique rewards. Sure, you get the dyes and the titles, but how many of us have ever seen a dye on a passing character and thought, "Wow, that guy completed vet Maelstrom." In WoW (and no, @OmniDevil, this is definitely not my first mmo), the rewards actually meant something. It didn't mean that person bought it from the crown store. Again, I understand why Zeni has to do that. Just irritated.

OmniDevil

Tipsy247 wrote: »

I admit, I was probably wrong in posting this. In more clarification (because I was very irritated at the time), I understand why they brought the panther back. I guess my overall irritation stems from the fact that there are no unique rewards. Sure, you get the dyes and the titles, but how many of us have ever seen a dye on a passing character and thought, "Wow, that guy completed vet Maelstrom." In WoW (and no, @OmniDevil, this is definitely not my first mmo), the rewards actually meant something. It didn't mean that person bought it from the crown store. Again, I understand why Zeni has to do that. Just irritated.

@Tipsy247

I feel ya and I meant no offense. Actually, as a long time WoW player (now ex-wow player) I can see where you're coming from. Rare mounts, timed-run mounts (Amani Warbear Mount, Zul'Aman), boss drop mounts, etc. Those showed a level of prestige to a passer by. A lot of, "Whoa, check him/her out! They must be that good to be able to get that!" or "They put a lot of time into getting that!", however.

With ESO, specifically referring to the Black Panther Senche, all anyone really sees is, "They're from PC. I wish we were given the opportunity to obtain that..."

Right there is the difference. You were around longer (even if by just a month), while console was never given the opportunity to get the mount. While that may provide a level of prestige for you, taking a look frmo our perspective, it might help one understand how this is actually pretty exciting for a lot of people (I'm one of them and I was really bummed out when I realized it wouldn't be available to us at launch).

Tipsy247

I feel ya @OmniDevil, and I didn't take any offense. Sorry if that came out hostile. When I saw the bear mount in the Orsinium trailer, I actually thought about the Amani War bear. And to Zeni's credit, they have added the Maelstrom weapons and monster helms, etc. I guess its just hoping they do more.

OmniDevil

@Tipsy247

The Amani Warbear is the one reason I solely use the Wrothgar Bear on all my toons (kind of irritated I spent crowns on the brown bear when I really wanted a Polar bear -_- )

But I agree. I hope they do more as well. Rare mount drops, mount rewards for Trial completions, more diversity in obtainable gear to allow for a wider array of optimized builds. So much more....

Volkodav

Tipsy247 wrote: »

Why do we have to bring the black-senche panther back to the crown store? I was one of the few proud owners of it on the xbox. It was my own little reward for being an active player before the consoles came. I might sound like I'm whining here, but unique rewards are what a lot of players strive for.

Maybe so that some of us who didnt have the money at the time it was out can have one too.It was just as store item. Not one of the early loyalty rewards.I do know how you feel though.I have the striped sensche for being in there for the first betas,and it wouldnt be fun to see people just being able to buy it in the crown store.Thing is,the differences are that the Striped Sensche wasnt ever in the store,and the black Sensche was.

Jayne_Doe

Yeah...I'm one of those PC transfers who enjoyed riding around on the Black Senche-Panther since there were so very few of them. However, I was pleased to see the announcement that they were returning and available to console players. They're still limited items, so not everyone will have them, but most everyone who wants one will.

And yes, it was really a way of saying "I've been around since PC," but I have my loyalty rewards for that. Those are the only items (plus the Beta monkey) that I'd really not like turning up in the Crown Store. All the limited edition items, however, are welcome.

I'd also like to see them bring back the few items that were discontinued from the Crown Store prior to console launch (blacksmith outfit, chef outfit, striated pony guar, bantam guar, dapple grey palfrey, grey yokudan charger).

Danikat

WhiskeyRiver.AZub17_ESO wrote: »

Tipsy247 wrote: »

Why do we have to bring the black-senche panther back to the crown store? I was one of the few proud owners of it on the xbox. It was my own little reward for being an active player before the consoles came. I might sound like I'm whining here, but unique rewards are what a lot of players strive for.

Maybe so that some of us who didnt have the money at the time it was out can have one too.It was just as store item. Not one of the early loyalty rewards.I do know how you feel though.I have the striped sensche for being in there for the first betas,and it wouldnt be fun to see people just being able to buy it in the crown store.Thing is,the differences are that the Striped Sensche wasnt ever in the store,and the black Sensche was.

Minor clarification: The senche-tiger mount was a reward for paying for 300 days of subscription time within the first year (before the switch to buy-to-play), not simply for being in the betas.

The beta reward was a monkey pet.

Which means technically you could buy the senche-tiger (if you bought enough time cards to get up to 300 days before the deadline) but there was a very short window to do so and it was very expensive if you hadn't been subscribing before then.

Even so I think it's probably more exclusive than the monkey because pretty much everyone who signed up got into the later betas, and the game was pretty widely publicised at the time. Or maybe I just think of it that way because I have the monkey, I even have the scuttler pet from the Explorer's Pack, and I didn't buy the game until it was a year old (or more specifically until the B2P transition was announced) but I don't have the tiger.

WalkingLegacy

Last ESO live episode they said they're bringing it back this time to give console plebs a chance to own it.

Volkodav

Danikat wrote: »

WhiskeyRiver.AZub17_ESO wrote: »

Tipsy247 wrote: »

Why do we have to bring the black-senche panther back to the crown store? I was one of the few proud owners of it on the xbox. It was my own little reward for being an active player before the consoles came. I might sound like I'm whining here, but unique rewards are what a lot of players strive for.

Maybe so that some of us who didnt have the money at the time it was out can have one too.It was just as store item. Not one of the early loyalty rewards.I do know how you feel though.I have the striped sensche for being in there for the first betas,and it wouldnt be fun to see people just being able to buy it in the crown store.Thing is,the differences are that the Striped Sensche wasnt ever in the store,and the black Sensche was.

Minor clarification: The senche-tiger mount was a reward for paying for 300 days of subscription time within the first year (before the switch to buy-to-play), not simply for being in the betas.

The beta reward was a monkey pet.

Which means technically you could buy the senche-tiger (if you bought enough time cards to get up to 300 days before the deadline) but there was a very short window to do so and it was very expensive if you hadn't been subscribing before then.

Even so I think it's probably more exclusive than the monkey because pretty much everyone who signed up got into the later betas, and the game was pretty widely publicised at the time. Or maybe I just think of it that way because I have the monkey, I even have the scuttler pet from the Explorer's Pack, and I didn't buy the game until it was a year old (or more specifically until the B2P transition was announced) but I don't have the tiger.

Actually,it says that it was for being in the betas.I have never seen the number 300 days anywhere.And yes,the monkey is also for beta.

OmniDevil

WhiskeyRiver.AZub17_ESO wrote: »

Actually,it says that it was for being in the betas.I have never seen the number 300 days anywhere.And yes,the monkey is also for beta.

Actually, you're wrong http://esoacademy.com/news/12-month-loyalty-reward/

Volkodav

OmniDevil wrote: »

WhiskeyRiver.AZub17_ESO wrote: »

Actually,it says that it was for being in the betas.I have never seen the number 300 days anywhere.And yes,the monkey is also for beta.

Actually, you're wrong http://esoacademy.com/news/12-month-loyalty-reward/

Yup,I am ABSOLUTELY wrong.LOL! I went and read the description again,and went "oops". XD