ZOS should sell gold in the Crownstore :o

DRXHarbinger

How are you not making gold? overnight I've raked in over 100k seriously, just selling V16 mats, Kutas ( big money at the moment ) and gold temper items, easy money making in this game.

Also something I don't get for end game players..........what do you need gold for? surely by now you have everything? I literally have nothing to buy, all gold items, glyphs the lot?! you make 1k just by rinsing any V10 or higher public dungeon in 10 mins, all mobs drop about 150 gold a time.

Twilix01

As someone who mostly RPs in-game, most of my gold comes from stealing items. I can rake in 8k-14k a day on my primary thief if I priorities green and above quality loot and throw away white loot. This is also assuming I spend the time to cap out my fence limit for the day. Put forth the effort and you can be rolling in gold.

Gargath

I see people selling in stores lvl1 healing staffs with traits for average 600g and others buy them - it's demand and supply.
Is it worth so much? Definitely not. Crafting this costs almost nothing, nonetheless people buy...
So many ways of earning money, not only by farming, and economy is well balanced so far, in my opinion.

You want a stable economy - make MM and related addons forbidden in game .
The price is going down when "good" traders (and buyers) wish to be all the time below average MM price... so it's going down .

altemriel

Gargath wrote: »

I see people selling in stores lvl1 healing staffs with traits for average 600g and others buy them - it's demand and supply.
Is it worth so much? Definitely not. Crafting this costs almost nothing, nonetheless people buy...
So many ways of earning money, not only by farming, and economy is well balanced so far, in my opinion.

You want a stable economy - make MM and related addons forbidden in game .
The price is going down when "good" traders (and buyers) wish to be all the time below average MM price... so it's going down .

"Awesome guild store" and "Master merchant" addons are a must!!

TequilaFire

Level 1 white items with certain traits sell well to people that need to research traits.

ADarklore

I agree with most players that selling in-game Gold for Crowns is creating a P2W atmosphere. Basically you could always have the best items while those who don't have extra money or are casual players and cannot generate enough gold otherwise, would be at a HUGE disadvantage. Right now the game does benefit those who take the time to sell items in Guild Traders... what I see a lot of are players who complain about not having money, yet do not take the time to try and sell anything in a Guild Trader. Instead their selling to regular NPC Merchants or deconning their loot... and somehow expecting to make enough gold just off NPC merchants and quest rewards. Not gonna happen. Take the time to sell items- particularly crating materials... deconstruct all you want, but then sell those mats in a Guild Trader. That's how I make my $$ anyway.

Sad though, that one of the Guild Traders I just joined is closing down this week, and they had almost full membership. But I guess that's to be expected, people create Traders when their excited about the game and/or have a lot of extra time... but when things change, suddenly maintaining a Trader becomes more work than enjoyment. Still sad to see any close though.

altemriel

ADarklore wrote: »

I agree with most players that selling in-game Gold for Crowns is creating a P2W atmosphere. Basically you could always have the best items while those who don't have extra money or are casual players and cannot generate enough gold otherwise, would be at a HUGE disadvantage. Right now the game does benefit those who take the time to sell items in Guild Traders... what I see a lot of are players who complain about not having money, yet do not take the time to try and sell anything in a Guild Trader. Instead their selling to regular NPC Merchants or deconning their loot... and somehow expecting to make enough gold just off NPC merchants and quest rewards. Not gonna happen. Take the time to sell items- particularly crating materials... deconstruct all you want, but then sell those mats in a Guild Trader. That's how I make my $$ anyway.

Sad though, that one of the Guild Traders I just joined is closing down this week, and they had almost full membership. But I guess that's to be expected, people create Traders when their excited about the game and/or have a lot of extra time... but when things change, suddenly maintaining a Trader becomes more work than enjoyment. Still sad to see any close though.

that is sad of course, but there are many trading guilds that you can switch to , many with 300+ members

ladyonthemoon

Personofsecrets wrote: »

This makes alot of sense. I would agree with ZOS selling gold for crowns.

Nah, gold should remain free.

Gargath

TequilaFire wrote: »

Level 1 white items with certain traits sell well to people that need to research traits.

Sure mate, but with a.m. "Awesome guild store" they can find random gears, incl. healing staffs with traits, for much less gold (150-200). This crafted lvl1 is an example of how people can artificially organize trading for items which aren't worth the money and thus economy in this particular example is inflated, profiteering, not really based on cost of production/research.

altemriel

Gargath wrote: »

TequilaFire wrote: »

Level 1 white items with certain traits sell well to people that need to research traits.

Sure mate, but with a.m. "Awesome guild store" they can find random gears, incl. healing staffs with traits, for much less gold (150-200). This crafted lvl1 is an example of how people can artificially organize trading for items which aren't worth the money and thus economy in this particular example is inflated, profiteering, not really based on cost of production/research.

I was thinking lately, how does Awesome guild store calculate the price that it gives you automaticaly? Does it somehow monitor all guild stores, or how does it work actually? Or does it monitor only guilds that you are member?

Shader_Shibes

You can make money since this patch, unfortunately grinding mats or sewers is the only way. I liked it previously when playing with mates, on TS in vdsa, killing 2 birds with 1 stone, trying to improve our score, while making money doing so. Now, it's just a brain numbing mat grind.

altemriel

Shader_Shibes wrote: »

You can make money since this patch, unfortunately grinding mats or sewers is the only way. I liked it previously when playing with mates, on TS in vdsa, killing 2 birds with 1 stone, trying to improve our score, while making money doing so. Now, it's just a brain numbing mat grind.

that is not true, even if mats are most profitable, you still can make much profit from crafting (or from drops) and selling blue and purple items. and from gold ones you can make thousands for just one item. also crafting set items for non-crafters can be max profitable. there are even crafters that have so much money, they don`t care for money any more. my guild mate for example. he is crafting us stuff for free, he does not care for money

vamp_emily

I want a pet hen that lays crowns.

That would be nice.

Samphaa

They need to do something, EU PS4 server prices are rediculous at the moment, a few select people have bought alot of legendary materials, kept hold of them and are now selling dreugh wax for 8-10k, rosin about the same and tempering alloys anywhere from 13k to 20k. It's stupid. I like the whole buying and selling thing with guild traders, I made alot of money on arcane willpower rings buying and selling, but the prices at the moment for legendary mats is just stupid!

Edit: I should add that I agree it is easy to make money on this game, when I got quite hooked on buying and selling i made 350k in a weekend, but I work 8 hours a day and don't want to spend all of my game time walking around guild traders/farming nodes/stealing. I want to play the content, like the pledges, the quests, orsinium, farming helms etc...

Khaos_Bane

Go pick some flowers Alcast !!! Get-r-dun !

Fecius

No, they should not! It's too dangerous for in-game economy.

Alcast

Khaos_Bane wrote: »

Go pick some flowers Alcast !!! Get-r-dun !

!!!!!

Jennifur_Vultee

Selling gold does little except ensure the prices will shoot through the roof...no gold sales in the cash shop.

timidobserver

No because it would make my millions worth less. Though, I have to admit that what gw2 does with buying/selling currency works pretty well for them.

FortheloveofKrist

Personofsecrets wrote: »

Hexys wrote: »

Thanks to the 'merchants' for working together in draining all the yellow tempers on the EU megaserver and putting these at almost double to double the cost as they were before.

As if gear is cheap to make already...

This is an MMO. What traders chose to do is just part of the game that everyone needs to adapt to.

Yes, just like monopolies in real life economy. Adapt to it. YAY! ??

lolo_01b16_ESO

altemriel wrote: »

Personofsecrets wrote: »

I think that it would be alot easier for players to just buy the items they want in exchange for their crowns. It is much more straightforward than buying gold and it could probably help ZOS make more money which they desperately need if they are going to start million dollar give aways.

I disagree. no one would sell anything. all prices would skyrocket up. economy would collapse.


I made almost 30 000 last week. see my post above! and learn to trade!

Lol, at that rate it would only take me 3-4 months to get the money to upgrade my armour on one char to legendary. And it would delay a few more months if I dare to enter vmsa regularely.

While I don't want to see gold in the crown store, it would be great if there was a way to make money by doing end game content. Previeously you could sell healer / footman from dsa, dreugh king / skirimsher from so, sun / warlock from aa and hel ra and morag tong / shadow walker from pvp, just to name a few.
Now there isn't a single usefull set that can be traded and is not obtained by grinding ic sewers.

Bashev

altemriel wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

Because there is literally no possibility to make money in this game because ZOS killed most traders this patch and stuff is getting ridiculous expensive.

And I am not a flowerpicker myself so aint gonna happen

dude, I have made almost 30 000 gold within this week!

get into a trading guild with at least 300 members. get in as many trading guilds that you can.
go here: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/, scroll totally down to "Guild recruitment", go to your server and platform there and find a guild. write them to invite you.

sell materials in bigger stacks - at least 10 - 20 pieces, sell potions, sell blue and purple stuff: weapons, armor, jewelry, food, drinks, recipes. sell stuff from IC mobs (plannar amor, claws, teeth,..etc), sell malachite shards, sell rare crafting motifs.....xivkin, mercenary, etc (if you can not sell it for higher price, sell it for a bit less next time). If you are on pc, get the addons: Awesome guilds store and Master merchant - very very useful for guild store trading.
craft purple items and sell them. I bought purple glyphs for my new set from a guy from my guild for 5000 gold yesterday! even if you want to get at least some money, sell dropped items to regular NPC traders.
do not expect to make high profit in guild stores with white items (not improved). almost noone buys them. even green and blue are there sometimes few weeks until someone buys them. also, low level items are not much tradable, sell them to local NPC traders. get to at least veteran rank, then drops will be also veteran rank items, sell those, the blue and purple preferably. if you find gold items and dont want them, sell them - you can make thousands for just one item. some items are bound on equip or bound on pickup - meaning you can not sell them, ZOS made this, for some reason, they should drop this in my opinion, but nevermind. You still can make thousands of gold if you learn what where and how to trade it.

If you have valuable items, you can even sell them in zone chat directly without guild store. I always see posts in the chat looking for traders, or looking for buyers.

my advice!


If ZOS would sell gold in crown store, THAT would kill the economy! as noone would need to trade anything!

30k are pocket money. When IC launched I made 200k per day. For 3 weeks I had 3 million gold. Now with orsinium all new items are BoP and the economy is in stagnation.

Uberkull

They might as well start selling gold, the crown store is getting absurd. Limited time mounts that aren't limited at all. The Black Senche-Panther mount is back. BS.

And now they sell Vamp bites and Werewolf bites....seriously.

Thelon

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Docmandu

I'm sure it will come one day... EVE has it, RIFT has it, just read that GW2 has something like it..

People that want to buy gold, probably already do it via some chinese farmer site (although I admit that this game is great at keeping Gold Sellers at bay.. ever since they did something about the bots, I haven't seen any gold sellers anymore.. not even 1.. which actually is pretty awesome and something ZOS doesn't get enough credit for)

Anyway.. if people want to buy gold, they already can.. so why not have the money go towards Zenimax and improving the game for all of us.

Asherons_Call

No thanks. I like to be on an even keel with the people that are rich in real life

DRXHarbinger

Alchemy ingredients sell for a lot now too. Water hyacinth is the main one. Also grind craglorn get some potent nirncruxs and make lightening staves and weapons. They sell for tons if you've done the research at the moment.

bryanhaas

Alcast wrote: »

Because there is literally no possibility to make money in this game because ZOS killed most traders this patch and stuff is getting ridiculous expensive.

And I am not a flowerpicker myself so aint gonna happen

The market has changed, you could switch to farming Vet 16 mats and sell those 50 units for about 10k or more. There are also the Merc motif pages from the undaunted pledges. Doing daily writs and you sometimes get gold tempers which go for about 10k each (you can usually get more than that except for woodworking).

Or you can find someone outside to sell you gold for real money although I would imagine that could get you banned. I assume the TOS probably says something about buying gold or selling gold with real money. I did see someone offering $0.15 per 1k in a ps community, I assume again though if anyone did that they could get their account banned

Gargath

altemriel wrote: »

Gargath wrote: »

TequilaFire wrote: »

Level 1 white items with certain traits sell well to people that need to research traits.

Sure mate, but with a.m. "Awesome guild store" they can find random gears, incl. healing staffs with traits, for much less gold (150-200). This crafted lvl1 is an example of how people can artificially organize trading for items which aren't worth the money and thus economy in this particular example is inflated, profiteering, not really based on cost of production/research.

I was thinking lately, how does Awesome guild store calculate the price that it gives you automaticaly? Does it somehow monitor all guild stores, or how does it work actually? Or does it monitor only guilds that you are member?

First, Awesome Guild Store is for searching, and Master Merchant for calculations. And it seems it calculates only guilds that you are member - source here.

altemriel

Bashev wrote: »

altemriel wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

Because there is literally no possibility to make money in this game because ZOS killed most traders this patch and stuff is getting ridiculous expensive.

And I am not a flowerpicker myself so aint gonna happen

dude, I have made almost 30 000 gold within this week!

get into a trading guild with at least 300 members. get in as many trading guilds that you can.
go here: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/, scroll totally down to "Guild recruitment", go to your server and platform there and find a guild. write them to invite you.

sell materials in bigger stacks - at least 10 - 20 pieces, sell potions, sell blue and purple stuff: weapons, armor, jewelry, food, drinks, recipes. sell stuff from IC mobs (plannar amor, claws, teeth,..etc), sell malachite shards, sell rare crafting motifs.....xivkin, mercenary, etc (if you can not sell it for higher price, sell it for a bit less next time). If you are on pc, get the addons: Awesome guilds store and Master merchant - very very useful for guild store trading.
craft purple items and sell them. I bought purple glyphs for my new set from a guy from my guild for 5000 gold yesterday! even if you want to get at least some money, sell dropped items to regular NPC traders.
do not expect to make high profit in guild stores with white items (not improved). almost noone buys them. even green and blue are there sometimes few weeks until someone buys them. also, low level items are not much tradable, sell them to local NPC traders. get to at least veteran rank, then drops will be also veteran rank items, sell those, the blue and purple preferably. if you find gold items and dont want them, sell them - you can make thousands for just one item. some items are bound on equip or bound on pickup - meaning you can not sell them, ZOS made this, for some reason, they should drop this in my opinion, but nevermind. You still can make thousands of gold if you learn what where and how to trade it.

If you have valuable items, you can even sell them in zone chat directly without guild store. I always see posts in the chat looking for traders, or looking for buyers.

my advice!


If ZOS would sell gold in crown store, THAT would kill the economy! as noone would need to trade anything!

30k are pocket money. When IC launched I made 200k per day. For 3 weeks I had 3 million gold. Now with orsinium all new items are BoP and the economy is in stagnation.

you know what I think? maybe it is done on purpose by ZOS. to prevent people becomming so extremelly rich in such a short time. because what happens when you have so much money? you become godlike - unkillable, people create monopols, cartels, which in the endefect disbalances the economy. rich get richer, poor have no way of becomming richer. maybe it is good like that.

and that time that you are writting about, I was not even playing that time, I started when they dropped the mandatory subscription and started really selling in guild stores just recently, so I can not relate to that time. but now, compared to that, when the economy is in "stagnation" as you call it, what is the next logical step? prices will slowly drop, then more people would be again able to buy and sell stuff and the economy will stabilise itself on new prices. that is how it goes.

even if I personally also do not like the idea of BOP, I have no problem with working harder to get the money I need, even if it takes time, I love the game (screw the bugs, I do not play PVP, so screw the lags), I pretty much enjoy it.