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Pvp in this game is ridiculous

found1779
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How is it i am vr16 but yet i get beat by a level 10 not vr either a level 10 i'm so fed up with crap pvp in this game and when i turn into a werewolf in pvp i can get one shotted wtf is that how freaking stupid and i can't even stay a werewolf that long to fight back not to mention i can't even change at will werewolf is so pathetic it needs to be a toggle
  • Waffennacht
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    Im sorry. I can help. I bet your attributes are all over the place, is your gear 16? How's your CPs placed?

    I don't even need to know your class to help if a lvl 10 is killing you.

    But just to be safe, how about you tell us your build and stats?
    Gamer tag: DasPanzerKat NA Xbox One
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  • MrDerrikk
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    ...l2p?

    Na, I like running Vamp so I get where you're coming from with the 1-shot thing. As for being beaten by a lvl10, that's the wonder of Battle-scaling at work, so it really is a learning to play in the completely different environment that is PvP.
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  • lolo_01b16_ESO
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    I'd assume that the level 10 is a much better player then you. When you enter pvp below v15, you get your stats boosted to some extend based on your level and gear. That way a low level player can defeat higher level players if he has more skill, but with equal skill, the higher level player will still have an advantage.

    You should be able to stay in WW form as long as you are in combat. If you can't, you either forgot to skill some passives or might to change some morphs.

    But yes, being oneshot by multiple camouflaged hunter procs on one attack is annoying and should be changed.
  • DragonSamurai360
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    I think it's the battle leveling setting, without that I couldnt've beat a VR16 when he ambushed my friend. I just pounded him with Crystal Shard over and over, at the time I was on the PC version and level 13 Sorc.
    Edited by DragonSamurai360 on November 30, 2015 3:22AM
  • Totalitarian
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    You know, one time I 2v1'd a group before. I took a good 10 Wrecking Blows, made one of the enemies pop 3 Remembrances, and the whole fight lasted about 10 minutes. I would have lost had the other enemy gone full man-mode earlier, instead of after I killed his healer. But instead, I Puncturing Swept myself to victory. Pretty ridiculous.

    Magicka Templar OP?

    Confirmed.



    Oh, and remember battle leveling, and that it is probable that you faced the alt of some pvper.
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  • Chrlynsch
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    found1779 wrote: »
    How is it i am vr16 but yet i get beat by a level 10 not vr either a level 10 i'm so fed up with crap pvp in this game and when i turn into a werewolf in pvp i can get one shotted wtf is that how freaking stupid and i can't even stay a werewolf that long to fight back not to mention i can't even change at will werewolf is so pathetic it needs to be a toggle

    What alliance are you?
    Caius
    Pack Leader of Scourge Alliance- First Fang of Hircine, The Beast of Bruma
    PC NA
  • Jaronking
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    I have to ask is this your first time PVPing?
  • Unsent.Soul
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    Prothwata wrote: »
    found1779 wrote: »
    How is it i am vr16 but yet i get beat by a level 10 not vr either a level 10 i'm so fed up with crap pvp in this game and when i turn into a werewolf in pvp i can get one shotted wtf is that how freaking stupid and i can't even stay a werewolf that long to fight back not to mention i can't even change at will werewolf is so pathetic it needs to be a toggle

    What alliance are you?

    Thats the least of his/her worries lol. Def. a L2P issue, and mainly the skills and ability to create/use a build.
  • Prospering
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    Yes if they're more skilled than you they will win like literally any other game. There are bigger issues atm in pvp
  • skillastat
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    PvP is dumbed down by the Developpers because of complaints like this.

    Learn to play, that's the only thing we can help you with.

    And please be more constructive, your post don't help you at all.
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  • Chrlynsch
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    Prothwata wrote: »
    found1779 wrote: »
    How is it i am vr16 but yet i get beat by a level 10 not vr either a level 10 i'm so fed up with crap pvp in this game and when i turn into a werewolf in pvp i can get one shotted wtf is that how freaking stupid and i can't even stay a werewolf that long to fight back not to mention i can't even change at will werewolf is so pathetic it needs to be a toggle

    What alliance are you?

    Thats the least of his/her worries lol. Def. a L2P issue, and mainly the skills and ability to create/use a build.

    Not if I train the pup...
    Caius
    Pack Leader of Scourge Alliance- First Fang of Hircine, The Beast of Bruma
    PC NA
  • Angarato
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    I see dem trolls and I keep my feed in mah pocket
  • X_NOVIA_X
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    Its all practice. As a magicka templar dps i used to have trouble with lower levels, but i practiced and just researched good rotations and customized my skills as i saw fit. Now i can melt v16s with 2/3 hits no problem. Practice makes perfect and pvp is no exception to this! Check out the pvp forums and builds for help!
  • iamnotweakrwb17_ESO
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    This sounds entirely like CP disparity + armor bolster.

    Level 10's get very high damage reduction to make up for the fact they have no abilities. Also, if the player you were versing had a large CP advantage over you you can lose. CP > Level.
  • Galalin
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    Being V16 means nothing.... its builds,cp and skill that make a big difference..... if you want to know part of the reason you died you can thank ZoS for thier battle lvling system that even the streamers are using to make a false sense of achievement by killing VR players with not vet chars. The battle lvling in this game kinda messed up if you ask me

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  • lolo_01b16_ESO
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    This sounds entirely like CP disparity + armor bolster.

    Level 10's get very high damage reduction to make up for the fact they have no abilities. Also, if the player you were versing had a large CP advantage over you you can lose. CP > Level.

    This is just not true. A v16 with zero cp who knows how to play will almost always win against a low level char, no matter how many cp he has.
  • iamnotweakrwb17_ESO
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    This sounds entirely like CP disparity + armor bolster.

    Level 10's get very high damage reduction to make up for the fact they have no abilities. Also, if the player you were versing had a large CP advantage over you you can lose. CP > Level.

    This is just not true. A v16 with zero cp who knows how to play will almost always win against a low level char, no matter how many cp he has.

    ***. LOL
  • Waffennacht
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    This sounds entirely like CP disparity + armor bolster.

    Level 10's get very high damage reduction to make up for the fact they have no abilities. Also, if the player you were versing had a large CP advantage over you you can lose. CP > Level.

    This is just not true. A v16 with zero cp who knows how to play will almost always win against a low level char, no matter how many cp he has.

    Well technically the Low level with many CPs will actually have better stats than a V16 without any CPs.

    This means if they are on equal skill terms than the "low" level should take it. I use quotations because with CPs being universal makes alts far more powerful than a brand new player. On console one of these "low"level alts are indistinguishable from brand new players.
    Gamer tag: DasPanzerKat NA Xbox One
    1300+ CP
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  • odiasuda
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    PvP is dumbed down by the Developpers because of complaints like this.

    Learn to play, that's the only thing we can help you with.

    And please be more constructive, your post don't help you at all.

    I don't think PVP is this game could get any dumber.
  • found1779
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    Just took my game out of my ps4 and snapped it in half tired of this crap mmo not text chat on console and pvp is a joke i whent werewolf against someone and they wasn't taking no damage kept spaming vigor for heals i got killed in 2 hits and my physical damage was suppose to take out 11k a hit but it wasn't *** this game not coming back until they fix crap that's wrong with it especially on console
    Edited by found1779 on November 30, 2015 7:00AM
  • lolo_01b16_ESO
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    This sounds entirely like CP disparity + armor bolster.

    Level 10's get very high damage reduction to make up for the fact they have no abilities. Also, if the player you were versing had a large CP advantage over you you can lose. CP > Level.

    This is just not true. A v16 with zero cp who knows how to play will almost always win against a low level char, no matter how many cp he has.

    Well technically the Low level with many CPs will actually have better stats than a V16 without any CPs.

    This means if they are on equal skill terms than the "low" level should take it. I use quotations because with CPs being universal makes alts far more powerful than a brand new player. On console one of these "low"level alts are indistinguishable from brand new players.

    Better stats won't make up for all the skills you don't have. Maybe on a magicka templar, as you get sweep and bol early, but all other builds will have big problems.
  • found1779
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    found1779 wrote: »
    Just took my game out of my ps4 and snapped it in half tired of this crap mmo not text chat on console and pvp is a joke i whent werewolf against someone and they wasn't taking no damage kept spaming vigor for heals i got killed in 2 hits and my physical damage was suppose to take out 11k a hit but it wasn't *** this game not coming back until they fix crap that's wrong with it especially on console

    Bye dumb eso
  • MrDerrikk
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    found1779 wrote: »
    found1779 wrote: »
    Just took my game out of my ps4 and snapped it in half tired of this crap mmo not text chat on console and pvp is a joke i whent werewolf against someone and they wasn't taking no damage kept spaming vigor for heals i got killed in 2 hits and my physical damage was suppose to take out 11k a hit but it wasn't *** this game not coming back until they fix crap that's wrong with it especially on console

    Bye dumb eso

    Bye. We'll miss you. <3
    I have departed into the great unknown that is outside the game and the forums, and wish you well in your Tamriel adventures!

    DC - PC - EU - Australian
    VR11 Mrderrikk: Breton Stam Sorc (Vamp) | VR16 Derrikkinblack: Dunmer Mage DK | VR3 Cuts-Until-It-Dies: Argonian Magicka NB

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  • pronkg
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    found1779 wrote: »
    How is it i am vr16 but yet i get beat by a level 10 not vr either a level 10 i'm so fed up with crap pvp in this game and when i turn into a werewolf in pvp i can get one shotted wtf is that how freaking stupid and i can't even stay a werewolf that long to fight back not to mention i can't even change at will werewolf is so pathetic it needs to be a toggle


    Maybe it's the same reason I can sometimes beat 4 V16s at the same time with my V16 while I don't have too gear and don't have max CP. HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE DUMB ESO


  • Oliumzen
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    found1779 wrote: »
    Just took my game out of my ps4 and snapped it in half tired of this crap mmo not text chat on console and pvp is a joke i whent werewolf against someone and they wasn't taking no damage kept spaming vigor for heals i got killed in 2 hits and my physical damage was suppose to take out 11k a hit but it wasn't *** this game not coming back until they fix crap that's wrong with it especially on console

    And ZoS wins. When you come back you'll have to drop another $60 for their game since you broke your copy.
  • found1779
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    Oliumzen wrote: »
    found1779 wrote: »
    Just took my game out of my ps4 and snapped it in half tired of this crap mmo not text chat on console and pvp is a joke i whent werewolf against someone and they wasn't taking no damage kept spaming vigor for heals i got killed in 2 hits and my physical damage was suppose to take out 11k a hit but it wasn't *** this game not coming back until they fix crap that's wrong with it especially on console

    And ZoS wins. When you come back you'll have to drop another $60 for their game since you broke your copy.

    Lol probably but i don't intend on coming back that soon by the time i do the game will probably be old and cost alot less
  • Brrrofski
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    This thread gave me a smile to start my day
  • McSwaggins
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    This is definitely a L2P issue. Everything you listed that made you snap your game, can be fixed by understanding how the game is played. Vigor isn't going to heal you better if you just spam it, because its a HoT (heal over time). Just pop it once and let it do it's job.
  • zornyan
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    This sounds entirely like CP disparity + armor bolster.

    Level 10's get very high damage reduction to make up for the fact they have no abilities. Also, if the player you were versing had a large CP advantage over you you can lose. CP > Level.

    This is just not true. A v16 with zero cp who knows how to play will almost always win against a low level char, no matter how many cp he has.

    ***. LOL

    Actually it's true.

    My battle leveled level 23 sorc doesn't half any skills that are useable, no hardened ward, no spell crit or pen passives, less than half racial passives, less than half skill passives. Stats are around 30k magicka, 1600 spell power and 1400 regen.

    My vr16 templar has 41k magicka, 3600 spell power and 1700 regen, as well as all skills and passives unlocked.

    So you're telling me that 20% damage from being at MAX cp cap is better than 10k more magicka, over double the spell power and a ton of passives?

    Troll
  • DanielWinterborn
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    You know, one time I 2v1'd a group before. I took a good 10 Wrecking Blows, made one of the enemies pop 3 Remembrances, and the whole fight lasted about 10 minutes. I would have lost had the other enemy gone full man-mode earlier, instead of after I killed his healer. But instead, I Puncturing Swept myself to victory. Pretty ridiculous.

    Magicka Templar OP?

    Confirmed.



    Oh, and remember battle leveling, and that it is probable that you faced the alt of some pvper.

    BAHAHAHAHAAHAH just gonna infinilol at this Magicka Templar OP Confirmed statement :))) maaan kids this days just go coco for 1 win vs randoms
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