FPS Drops

Nifty2g

So at what point in time exactly did we decide this was a feature rather than acknowledging it and fixing it, did I miss it?

Moonshadow66

It's a feature now? Did I miss that, too?
The FPS are ok on my end, EXCEPT for Orsinium (city) where it frequently drops down to 15-20 (from otherwise constant 60). Riding through this city is nearly impossible, it's like rush-hour traffic with a lot of stop-and-go.

Nifty2g

Moonshadow66 wrote: »

It's a feature now? Did I miss that, too?
The FPS are ok on my end, EXCEPT for Orsinium (city) where it frequently drops down to 15-20 (from otherwise constant 60). Riding through this city is nearly impossible, it's like rush-hour traffic with a lot of stop-and-go.

It's the best when it happens during Maelstrom and drops you down to 5 fps, happens nearly every single run I do
Or when I'm standing still talking in guild chats doing nothing I get an FPS drop

TheDarkShadow

Yes this happen to me since Orsinium launched. Specially in AoE situations. The FPS just drop to 5-10-35... and will keep doing so every time I pull a group of mobs and AoE, until I reload UI. It would work for a while, then happen again. Now I learned that I should reload UI now and then, every time I enter a dungeon, before boss... and hope it would work.

hammayolettuce

Nifty2g wrote: »

Moonshadow66 wrote: »

It's a feature now? Did I miss that, too?
The FPS are ok on my end, EXCEPT for Orsinium (city) where it frequently drops down to 15-20 (from otherwise constant 60). Riding through this city is nearly impossible, it's like rush-hour traffic with a lot of stop-and-go.

It's the best when it happens during Maelstrom and drops you down to 5 fps, happens nearly every single run I do
Or when I'm standing still talking in guild chats doing nothing I get an FPS drop

Have you tried to reset you Git Gud Modem?

Septimus_Magna

If you have fps drops and want stable 60 fps you can turn off bump mapping. Go to user settings > normal maps = 0, this will reduce the detailing and improve performance, its the only way to pvp without massive fps drops in my experience.

My systems specs are 4,0GHz CPU, 16GB DDR4 RAM, GTX 970 4GB GPU and 512GB SSD. With these specs I should not be getting fps drops but unfortunatly you need to reduce the visual quality to enjoy pvp and other busy area's.

Nifty2g

Septimus_Magna wrote: »

If you have fps drops and want stable 60 fps you can turn off bump mapping. Go to user settings > normal maps = 0, this will reduce the detailing and improve performance, its the only way to pvp without massive fps drops in my experience.

My systems specs are 4,0GHz CPU, 16GB DDR4 RAM, GTX 970 4GB GPU and 512GB SSD. With these specs I should not be getting fps drops but unfortunatly you need to reduce the visual quality to enjoy pvp and other busy area's.

I believe the issue is the memory leaks causing this that the game has had since beta

TheDarkShadow

Septimus_Magna wrote: »

If you have fps drops and want stable 60 fps you can turn off bump mapping. Go to user settings > normal maps = 0, this will reduce the detailing and improve performance, its the only way to pvp without massive fps drops in my experience.

My systems specs are 4,0GHz CPU, 16GB DDR4 RAM, GTX 970 4GB GPU and 512GB SSD. With these specs I should not be getting fps drops but unfortunatly you need to reduce the visual quality to enjoy pvp and other busy area's.

This has nothing to do with specs. After reloaded UI, the game runs smooth again (for a while), same setting, same AoE pull.

Elloa

I got FPS drop aswell. It happen randomly. Do not need ot be a "action" moment or a buzy place.
I just need to alt tab, or reloadui to fix it.

Septimus_Magna

TheDarkShadow wrote: »

Septimus_Magna wrote: »

If you have fps drops and want stable 60 fps you can turn off bump mapping. Go to user settings > normal maps = 0, this will reduce the detailing and improve performance, its the only way to pvp without massive fps drops in my experience.

My systems specs are 4,0GHz CPU, 16GB DDR4 RAM, GTX 970 4GB GPU and 512GB SSD. With these specs I should not be getting fps drops but unfortunatly you need to reduce the visual quality to enjoy pvp and other busy area's.

This has nothing to do with specs. After reloaded UI, the game runs smooth again (for a while), same setting, same AoE pull.

Its not really an option to reload UI in pvp so if you want stable fps I would advise to turn off bump mapping.

View distance also has a lot of impact on your fps but in pvp your want to set this to max ofc.

Necrelios

This sudden random drop to 10 FPS or so is a bug and has nothing to do with your game settings. You can logout to the character window and still see that your framerate is very choppy if you spin your character around. I don't think it's a memory leak. The game consumes the same amount of memory as usual and the number of threads are consistent. It's neither network or disk read related. I've done some various tests and have come up empty handed and even more baffled than before.

TheDarkShadow

Septimus_Magna wrote: »

TheDarkShadow wrote: »

This has nothing to do with specs. After reloaded UI, the game runs smooth again (for a while), same setting, same AoE pull.

Its not really an option to reload UI in pvp so if you want stable fps I would advise to turn off bump mapping.

View distance also has a lot of impact on your fps but in pvp your want to set this to max ofc.

And THAT is the problem. Since it seem like the fps drop wasn't cause of specs, because the game still run normally even in the same situation after UI reload. Lower setting will help the stable fps get better but doesn't help this random fps drop.

Shadesofkin

Yeah there's this spot in VICP that everyone in my group had a sudden and drastic drop in FPS. I thought it was a fluke but the whole group at once? Not to mention all the times it happens in Cyro and Deshaan.

azoriangaming

Nifty2g wrote: »

So at what point in time exactly did we decide this was a feature rather than acknowledging it and fixing it, did I miss it?

fps drops? you're telling me that's the issue I thought eso was meant to be a turn base game?

Paulington

Sorry for slightly hijacking your thread @Nifty2g but I have a thread open in PC Tech Support just here.

A lot of the people in this thread have very similar symptoms to my own and wondering if it could be the same cause?

Septimus_Magna

TheDarkShadow wrote: »

Septimus_Magna wrote: »

TheDarkShadow wrote: »

This has nothing to do with specs. After reloaded UI, the game runs smooth again (for a while), same setting, same AoE pull.

Its not really an option to reload UI in pvp so if you want stable fps I would advise to turn off bump mapping.

View distance also has a lot of impact on your fps but in pvp your want to set this to max ofc.

And THAT is the problem. Since it seem like the fps drop wasn't cause of specs, because the game still run normally even in the same situation after UI reload. Lower setting will help the stable fps get better but doesn't help this random fps drop.

With bump mapping turned off I dont have any fps drops (at least not below 35 fps) so how is this not a settings issue?

Clearly ESO is coded in a way that even high-end systems arent able to run a stable 60 fps all the time. In my opinion you have 2 options to solve this:
1) reduce your settings (bump mapping off, reduce view distance etc)
2) reload UI when you start having fps drops (note, you can assign a key with the AUI addon to instantly reload the UI)

For pvp option 2 is not very useful so I chose the first option.

TheDarkShadow

Septimus_Magna wrote: »

1) reduce your settings (bump mapping off, reduce view distance etc)

Believe me, in pvp, my game look like minecraft. Lower everything I could.

Nifty2g

Again, this isn't an issue on the users side the game is just having poor performance and randomly FPS drops, happens to everyone I talk to, suddenly go from 80 fps to 10fps

Necrelios

I believe this is a bug related to the buffering support they may have added to address the screen tearing issues at launch. It does not appear to be settings related and when it happens you can logout to the character select and spin your character around and still see the same choppy frame rate very noticeably.

It happens very randomly as well, you can play for 12 hours and never see it happen, or it can happen right after first logging in. It can't be manually reproduced. When this occurs it sometimes goes away after a few minutes, but it will always be back unless you completely exit the client and restart the game.

This is specifically in regards to the "10 FPS" sudden frame rate drop bug. If you have ever experienced this, then you know what we're talking about.

phairdon

Moonshadow66 wrote: »

It's a feature now? Did I miss that, too?
The FPS are ok on my end, EXCEPT for Orsinium (city) where it frequently drops down to 15-20 (from otherwise constant 60). Riding through this city is nearly impossible, it's like rush-hour traffic with a lot of stop-and-go.

Yes. Just started venturing through Orsinium. FPS drops & severe stutter in the city, its nasty. Never experienced stutter anything like this in any other zone.

Thalmor-Nordmaster

This is Wrothgar/Orsinium is driving me batty! well OK I'm already batty. Its driving me over the Batty softcap. I almost stabbed the monitor with a pen!This is not my system's issues. I am running two Nvidia 980's soon to be either a Titan X or Z. Nor is it my internet I have 300Mbps up and down.Nor is it my Board, or Processor, or memory or SSD drive.
I really like the game and I really, really like my Guild. And I become frustrated when I see guildies enduring this as well.

Devs want us to see ESO as they envisioned it. I don't think that they envision lag,stutters and FPS drops.

As I wander the fields of Wrothgar I see animals abound. A density higher than anywhere else in the game. Didn't they remove the Deer from Cyrodill to improve the performance? While speaking with King Kurag over a stewed bear head he stated that the ESO animal relocation service needs to change. He hates stepping in rabbit poop and having squirrels always trying to bite his nuts.

This will be like the Khajiit passive Carnage/Crit thread it will get an initial response maybe. And then it will be a long while before we get feedback. If they are so swamped with bugs and other issues can they not just say that? I wish the devs well and its not their fault entirely. But if they drop the Baltimore Ravens T-shirts they might be able to derive and implement solutions faster.

Reducing settings > tried this no bueno

itz urz interwebz> tried this went from 150/150 to 300/300 >> again no bueno

I can play many other things that deal with far more complex calculations than eso and the system is smooth. Like either Elite Dangerous and or Star Citizen. It was an ED Guildie that sent me here and said that this is the way Tamriel should be experienced. And so far he is right. Well with the exception to the Lag/FPS/Stutter /Random loading screens.

Come on Devs do not be like your football team http://www.nfl.com/standings. Bring your A game to the bug fix table.And Mods can you shirt check them at the door before they enter and make them Turn those horrid T-shirts inside out!? They are ruining my Immersion.If they resist shirt check them Hockey Style.

Addihul

Did an utter disaster run tonight in SO. Complete FPS crap. I have a very good gaming rig and I play every other game on ultra settings. I am used to about 30-50 FPS on boss fights. Ever since Orsinium came out my FPS in high particle areas are horrendous. We did the second SO run at MAX LOW settings with all options turned off and I still hit 5 FPS at points. I'm slowly trying to figure out what's going on. Running repair, graphic drivers, addons, etc. However, if it is ESO.. then here's my proof below.

https://youtu.be/1E737GpYkMY

Septimus_Magna

TheDarkShadow wrote: »

Septimus_Magna wrote: »

1) reduce your settings (bump mapping off, reduce view distance etc)

Believe me, in pvp, my game look like minecraft. Lower everything I could.

It doenst have to look like a '90 game, try running it on high, optinal settings turned off (except grass) and turn bump mapping off in the user settings (normal maps = 0).

This removed the fps drops in pvp for me, even when fighting larger groups.

Nifty2g

Septimus_Magna wrote: »

TheDarkShadow wrote: »

Septimus_Magna wrote: »

1) reduce your settings (bump mapping off, reduce view distance etc)

Believe me, in pvp, my game look like minecraft. Lower everything I could.

It doenst have to look like a '90 game, try running it on high, optinal settings turned off (except grass) and turn bump mapping off in the user settings (normal maps = 0).

This removed the fps drops in pvp for me, even when fighting larger groups.

This is not what we are talking about
FPS drop is completely randomly dropping from 80fps to 10fps. Has nothing to do with the users end, it's been reported to happen to a lot of people for about 20 seconds to a minute.

Caligamy_ESO

It seemed like right around when we FINALLY got the loading screen fix my fps and latency went to hell in Orsinium. It was almost impossible to run thru the city and try to enter a door without missing it and faceplanting into the wall.

No idea why, no explanations, BUT the problem did resolve by lowering my graphics settings. Blasphemous I know, I play every other game on ultra as well. There is something about Orsinium as a whole that just wrecks havoc on my PC as it even begins to happen while I am out trying to gather, which can be REALLY freaking annoying when your staring at an ancestor silk on screen and mashing the button to harvest it for 2-3 seconds while the game catches up.

Fortunately though, I haven't had the FPS or latency spike issues since I began lowering the texture quality while in Orsinium about a week ago. Perhaps there are just too many butterflies..

zerosingularity

Old News.

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/230561/bug-memory-leak-confirmed-fps-issue-for-many-players-pc-mac-specs-irrelevant#latest

No ZoS relies, this is an ongoing issue and they don't care.

NobleNerd

I noticed the other day that the game was not properly releasing resources on my system. When I called up the Task Manager it at first was reading almost 70-80% cpu usage and memory usage was congested.

About 2 sec. after opening the Task Manager my resources were released and the game went back to its typical 30-40% cpu usage and the memory functioned proper.

This could be causing some of the lag if the game is accessing and not releasing the resources on your system properly, but I also believe ZOS has a huge server response lag issue with the game.

blabafat

Seems like every update my FPS gets worse and worse.

1.6 I got a new processor and motherboard and I was running max settings in cities with 60 fps all the time.

Since then I've had to lower my settings constantly to maintain decent FPS.

MrDerrikk

I think the best evidence that it isn't a user issue is how the guy in this post has dual GTX 980's (might have been Ti's) and yet he still has to turn down his settings to counteract the lag.

Please ZOS, I will buy one of your silly overpriced motifs if you use that money to buy servers that actually work.

Septimus_Magna

Nifty2g wrote: »

Septimus_Magna wrote: »

TheDarkShadow wrote: »

Septimus_Magna wrote: »

1) reduce your settings (bump mapping off, reduce view distance etc)

Believe me, in pvp, my game look like minecraft. Lower everything I could.

It doenst have to look like a '90 game, try running it on high, optinal settings turned off (except grass) and turn bump mapping off in the user settings (normal maps = 0).

This removed the fps drops in pvp for me, even when fighting larger groups.

This is not what we are talking about
FPS drop is completely randomly dropping from 80fps to 10fps. Has nothing to do with the users end, it's been reported to happen to a lot of people for about 20 seconds to a minute.

I know its a bug/bad programming that has nothing to do with the users end, all Im saying is that this bug can be reduced (to where its not even noticeable) by changing a setting.

Malmai

Nifty2g wrote: »

So at what point in time exactly did we decide this was a feature rather than acknowledging it and fixing it, did I miss it?

Well since anti BOT and lightning patch ZoS doesnt want to speak about LAG or FPS drops... psshhhh be quiet please !