Spell Damage

miked83b14_ESO

I use;

Julianos 5x
Magnus 4x
Willpower 3x

or

Phoenix 5x
Magnus 4x
Willpower 3x

I crafted Magnus 1 handed swords to get magicka recovery on top of the spell damage. All my jewelry has spell damage enchants as well. I have 3600 spell damage at the moment and 1600 magicka recovery.

KostasDragonborn

DanielWinterborn wrote: »

Septimus_Magna wrote: »

DanielWinterborn wrote: »

I got up to 2900 spell damage on my DK unbuffed, who can beat that?

I only have a screenshot of my buffed stats (3675 spell dmg with major sorcery), unbuffed its 20% less so 3062 spell dmg.

if that is PTS get it away from here it does not count. Yeah how in hell you got that much magicka and that spell damage?

P.S. i still have 1 sword purplle so i will have around 3k spell damage also after i ench that!

The max spell damage is easily attainable, as is the total magicka. However, I would never go that low in magicka regeneration, especially in PVP. From a DK perspective though, don't know about Sorc but it seems like once you've spent your load you will be out sustained.

Tankqull

KostasDragonborn wrote: »

DanielWinterborn wrote: »

Septimus_Magna wrote: »

DanielWinterborn wrote: »

I got up to 2900 spell damage on my DK unbuffed, who can beat that?

I only have a screenshot of my buffed stats (3675 spell dmg with major sorcery), unbuffed its 20% less so 3062 spell dmg.

if that is PTS get it away from here it does not count. Yeah how in hell you got that much magicka and that spell damage?

P.S. i still have 1 sword purplle so i will have around 3k spell damage also after i ench that!

The max spell damage is easily attainable, as is the total magicka. However, I would never go that low in magicka regeneration, especially in PVP. From a DK perspective though, don't know about Sorc but it seems like once you've spent your load you will be out sustained.

thats a pure pve build relying on group support if possible with ele drain + siphon spirit

Trihugger

Since you're balking at a measly 4k there's basically one path available to you: Level up to VR 16.

Once there, buy a set of healthy wisdom Jewelry, possibly an arcane necklace as those are relatively cheap. This will cost you roughly 100k and will be the best money you've ever spent.

Craft VR 16 weapons and upgrade them to Gold. It is a 220 damage difference between purple and gold (HUUUGE)

Farm Wrothgar like you're working for a Chinese gold farming company for ancestor silk and craft up a VR16 set of Julianos. Upgrading the gear to purple is sufficient to start off unless you're rolling in $$, but don't skimp on the glyphs. Make sure those are all as high as they can be.

Run your pledges and hope some Divines Molag Kena shoulders pop out of the box. It can pop out of either box.

Doing all of the above will net you 3k spell damage on your Dual Wield Sword bar (You will likely need one Reduced Spell Cost enchant on one jewelry piece for sustain) and about 2650 or so with the Destruction Staff. This is not the whole story as 2 set bonuses (Like Torug) are not showing up so you'll actually have more spell power, but that's what it'll show up as.

Samphaa

miked83b14_ESO wrote: »

I use;

Julianos 5x
Magnus 4x
Willpower 3x

or

Phoenix 5x
Magnus 4x
Willpower 3x

I crafted Magnus 1 handed swords to get magicka recovery on top of the spell damage. All my jewelry has spell damage enchants as well. I have 3600 spell damage at the moment and 1600 magicka recovery.

How do you get stats like that with that gear? I use 5 julianos, 4 magnus and 3 willpower, all vr16 gear, 4 pieces are legendary, with legendary glyphs, jewellry all has 174 spell damage glyphs, I'm at 3237 spell damage and 1110 recovery, but only 135 champion points.

The Uninvited

Trihugger wrote: »

Since you're balking at a measly 4k there's basically one path available to you: Level up to VR 16.

Once there, buy a set of healthy wisdom Jewelry, possibly an arcane necklace as those are relatively cheap. This will cost you roughly 100k and will be the best money you've ever spent.

Craft VR 16 weapons and upgrade them to Gold. It is a 220 damage difference between purple and gold (HUUUGE)

Farm Wrothgar like you're working for a Chinese gold farming company for ancestor silk and craft up a VR16 set of Julianos. Upgrading the gear to purple is sufficient to start off unless you're rolling in $$, but don't skimp on the glyphs. Make sure those are all as high as they can be.

Run your pledges and hope some Divines Molag Kena shoulders pop out of the box. It can pop out of either box.

Doing all of the above will net you 3k spell damage on your Dual Wield Sword bar (You will likely need one Reduced Spell Cost enchant on one jewelry piece for sustain) and about 2650 or so with the Destruction Staff. This is not the whole story as 2 set bonuses (Like Torug) are not showing up so you'll actually have more spell power, but that's what it'll show up as.

I'm running 5 V15 Julianos (purple / divines), 2 V15 Torug's (purple / divines), 1 V16 Molag Kena (gold / reinforced) + 3 willpower (V16 / all spell damage enchantments) and I'm at 3040 spell damage on destruction staff (unbuffed). I use the apprentice mundus.

The Uninvited

Samphaa wrote: »

miked83b14_ESO wrote: »

I use;

Julianos 5x
Magnus 4x
Willpower 3x

or

Phoenix 5x
Magnus 4x
Willpower 3x

I crafted Magnus 1 handed swords to get magicka recovery on top of the spell damage. All my jewelry has spell damage enchants as well. I have 3600 spell damage at the moment and 1600 magicka recovery.

How do you get stats like that with that gear? I use 5 julianos, 4 magnus and 3 willpower, all vr16 gear, 4 pieces are legendary, with legendary glyphs, jewellry all has 174 spell damage glyphs, I'm at 3237 spell damage and 1110 recovery, but only 135 champion points.

That 3600 is probably including a buff.

Samphaa

The Uninvited wrote: »

Samphaa wrote: »

miked83b14_ESO wrote: »

I use;

Julianos 5x
Magnus 4x
Willpower 3x

or

Phoenix 5x
Magnus 4x
Willpower 3x

I crafted Magnus 1 handed swords to get magicka recovery on top of the spell damage. All my jewelry has spell damage enchants as well. I have 3600 spell damage at the moment and 1600 magicka recovery.

How do you get stats like that with that gear? I use 5 julianos, 4 magnus and 3 willpower, all vr16 gear, 4 pieces are legendary, with legendary glyphs, jewellry all has 174 spell damage glyphs, I'm at 3237 spell damage and 1110 recovery, but only 135 champion points.

That 3600 is probably including a buff.

Mine includes a buff lol, I run pulsar/curse, crystal frag, inner light, bound aegis, crushing shock......power surge/Boundless storm/spell power pots, endless Wrath, inner light, bound aegis, liquid lightning. I can't get anywhere near 3600, even on dual wield bar. If i could I'd have nowhere near 1600 recovery, I don't understand....

The Uninvited

Samphaa wrote: »

The Uninvited wrote: »

Samphaa wrote: »

miked83b14_ESO wrote: »

I use;

Julianos 5x
Magnus 4x
Willpower 3x

or

Phoenix 5x
Magnus 4x
Willpower 3x

I crafted Magnus 1 handed swords to get magicka recovery on top of the spell damage. All my jewelry has spell damage enchants as well. I have 3600 spell damage at the moment and 1600 magicka recovery.

How do you get stats like that with that gear? I use 5 julianos, 4 magnus and 3 willpower, all vr16 gear, 4 pieces are legendary, with legendary glyphs, jewellry all has 174 spell damage glyphs, I'm at 3237 spell damage and 1110 recovery, but only 135 champion points.

That 3600 is probably including a buff.

Mine includes a buff lol, I run pulsar/curse, crystal frag, inner light, bound aegis, crushing shock......power surge/Boundless storm/spell power pots, endless Wrath, inner light, bound aegis, liquid lightning. I can't get anywhere near 3600, even on dual wield bar. If i could I'd have nowhere near 1600 recovery, I don't understand....

Same goes for me, I have 3040 unbuffed and 3600 when I use power surge but my recovery doesn't even hit the 1000. Don't understand that 1600 recovery either.

daemonios

The Uninvited wrote: »

Samphaa wrote: »

The Uninvited wrote: »

Samphaa wrote: »

miked83b14_ESO wrote: »

I use;

Julianos 5x
Magnus 4x
Willpower 3x

or

Phoenix 5x
Magnus 4x
Willpower 3x

I crafted Magnus 1 handed swords to get magicka recovery on top of the spell damage. All my jewelry has spell damage enchants as well. I have 3600 spell damage at the moment and 1600 magicka recovery.

How do you get stats like that with that gear? I use 5 julianos, 4 magnus and 3 willpower, all vr16 gear, 4 pieces are legendary, with legendary glyphs, jewellry all has 174 spell damage glyphs, I'm at 3237 spell damage and 1110 recovery, but only 135 champion points.

That 3600 is probably including a buff.

Mine includes a buff lol, I run pulsar/curse, crystal frag, inner light, bound aegis, crushing shock......power surge/Boundless storm/spell power pots, endless Wrath, inner light, bound aegis, liquid lightning. I can't get anywhere near 3600, even on dual wield bar. If i could I'd have nowhere near 1600 recovery, I don't understand....

Same goes for me, I have 3040 unbuffed and 3600 when I use power surge but my recovery doesn't even hit the 1000. Don't understand that 1600 recovery either.

Probably drinks instead of foods.

Paulington

I think this is the highest I can get self-buffed spell damage without sacrificing other stats:



If you're after a lot of spell damage and a general "good" build for a sorc, then 5x Julianos, 1x Kena (If you can't run vWGT, do Golds to get the shoulder from chests), 2x Torug's and 3x Willpower is about as good as you will get in terms of PvE DPS output until you can get two pieces of Kena.

If you want (almost) all crafted and cheaper, then you can go 5x Julianos (chest, legs, belt, helm and gloves), 2x Torug's (shoulders and staves), 2x Adroitness (boots and necklace) and 2x Cyrodiil's Light (two rings). All max magicka or spell damage enchanted. If you get VR6 rings they only cost 35,000 AP and will hold you just fine until you get Willpower jewellery and a Kena piece.

So @Amorpho, hope that helps! .

Samphaa

Using a bit of Asayre's (pardon the spelling) sorcerer arithmatic i think I've worked out where I'm missing my spell damage from. My staff is only purple at the moment until i've finished researching nirnhoned and can craft a torugs rather than a magnus. That in itself makes quite a difference, I also haven't got a Molag Kena shoulder piece, (have had 3 divines shoulder pieces in the last week) but no kena :-( I'm also using magnus instead of torugs because I didn't like my health changing values between bar swaps, but might give torugs a go if I use a 2 piece Nerien'eth for now. I may be able to hit 3500 next week.

Is that including the 2 piece Molag Kena buff @Paulington ? That's some pretty awesome stats.

NateAssassin

It's easy as a sorc, just go DW swords with torugs, 5 pc. julianos, 3 pc willpower with spell damage enchants, and 2 pc kena, and make sure to use power surge.

DRXHarbinger

How does dw help when a 2 handed staff doubles the trait value? Not getting that at all?

Paulington

Samphaa wrote: »

Using a bit of Asayre's (pardon the spelling) sorcerer arithmatic i think I've worked out where I'm missing my spell damage from. My staff is only purple at the moment until i've finished researching nirnhoned and can craft a torugs rather than a magnus. That in itself makes quite a difference, I also haven't got a Molag Kena shoulder piece, (have had 3 divines shoulder pieces in the last week) but no kena :-( I'm also using magnus instead of torugs because I didn't like my health changing values between bar swaps, but might give torugs a go if I use a 2 piece Nerien'eth for now. I may be able to hit 3500 next week.

Is that including the 2 piece Molag Kena buff @Paulington ? That's some pretty awesome stats.

Yep it is @Samphaa as it is a self-buff and is up 100% of the time whilst I am DPSing. .

I think it's near the best all-round pure PvE DPS build you can get as a Sorcerer currently. You can get higher SD/Magicka but it's at a detriment to overall damage.

Paulington

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

How does dw help when a 2 handed staff doubles the trait value? Not getting that at all?

Dual-wield gives you the same amount of trait value. For example Nirn gives 18% at legendary on a staff but 9% per sword, 2 x 9% = 18%.

What matters is that dual-wield increases your spell damage more than a staff does and you get 3% more damage from the Twin Blade and Blunt passive.

DRXHarbinger

I take it that was never thought about then? Sorcs and wizards aren't meant to use 2 swords let alone 1. Except gandalf of course.

Samphaa

Paulington wrote: »

Samphaa wrote: »

Using a bit of Asayre's (pardon the spelling) sorcerer arithmatic i think I've worked out where I'm missing my spell damage from. My staff is only purple at the moment until i've finished researching nirnhoned and can craft a torugs rather than a magnus. That in itself makes quite a difference, I also haven't got a Molag Kena shoulder piece, (have had 3 divines shoulder pieces in the last week) but no kena :-( I'm also using magnus instead of torugs because I didn't like my health changing values between bar swaps, but might give torugs a go if I use a 2 piece Nerien'eth for now. I may be able to hit 3500 next week.

Is that including the 2 piece Molag Kena buff @Paulington ? That's some pretty awesome stats.

Yep it is @Samphaa as it is a self-buff and is up 100% of the time whilst I am DPSing. .

I think it's near the best all-round pure PvE DPS build you can get as a Sorcerer currently. You can get higher SD/Magicka but it's at a detriment to overall damage.

@Paulington I think I've got it sorted now man, a friend crafted me a staff which I upgraded to legendary, i also upgraded a sword to legendary and I'm now at 3504 on dual wield bar. Torugs pact is bugged on PS4 and if I remove my Torugs armour piece my spell damage goes up to 3505. My bonus from 2 piece Torugs is 126 so I should be at 3631. Kena shoulder piece will take me to 3760, maybe slightly more with power surge and expert mage stacking but I'm still only at 35k magicka, so need to work on getting undaunted levelled up. Do champion points increase your max magicka in any way?

Still can't get over the fact people are selling tempering alloys on ps4 eu for 13-20k

daemonios

Samphaa wrote: »

Do champion points increase your max magicka in any way?

Every point you put in a constellation gives you some points (don't remember how many) in the corresponding stat: blue=magicka, etc.

Paulington

Glad to hear @Samphaa! Upgrading VR16 weapons to legendary is an extra 200 spell damage on your staff bar and more on dual wield which is a ton!

As for your Magicka, are you using both Bound Aegis and Inner Light? With VR15 Blue food and max Undaunted your Magicka should go up and up. With a hundred or so CP you should be able to hit ~41k Magicka relatively easily as a Sorcerer.

As for CP @daemonios is right, each CP in that constellation increases your base resource by a small amount. Green is stamina, red is health and blue is Magicka. I spent my ~450th CP in Health the other day and it gave me an extra 9 health points.

zornyan

My vr16 templar has

3540 spell power
1650 regen
41k magicka

All buffed with food and Atronach mundus, would be at 3900 if I wanted to sacrifice some recovery.

That's using
5x julianos
4x magnus
3x willpower 3x spell damage glyphs.

Samphaa

Paulington wrote: »

Glad to hear @Samphaa! Upgrading VR16 weapons to legendary is an extra 200 spell damage on your staff bar and more on dual wield which is a ton!

As for your Magicka, are you using both Bound Aegis and Inner Light? With VR15 Blue food and max Undaunted your Magicka should go up and up. With a hundred or so CP you should be able to hit ~41k Magicka relatively easily as a Sorcerer.

As for CP @daemonios is right, each CP in that constellation increases your base resource by a small amount. Green is stamina, red is health and blue is Magicka. I spent my ~450th CP in Health the other day and it gave me an extra 9 health points.

Thanks for the advice @Paulington, I am using bound aegis and Inner Light with purple vr15 food but I haven't spec'd everything into magicka just yet as I'm still learning dungeon mechanics and the little extra health helps. If I can aim for 40k magicka and 20k health I'll be happy for now until I become a better player and can try with slightly smaller health pool.

Thalmor-Nordmaster

This thread is awesome!!

Amorpho

Thalmor-Nordmaster wrote: »

This thread is awesome!!

Glad you're enjoying it! I didn't know it would be so successful when I started it lol. I got tons of "tricks" I didn't know about too

Beardimus

Hi @daemonios im in a similar position to the OP VR Sorc looking for high damage and trying to get my head around the Dual hand thing -

"Finally, most Sorc DPS builds use either 2H or dual wielding (2x swords) as off-hand because the weapons and the passives give you greater spell damage than any staff. Just fill that bar with non-weapon skills"

ive seen that advice on so many threads but I only see Weopon damage boosts in the DH passives not spell power - or am I missing this? I run dual wields for the enchant boost, and trait boost - but never use the weopons so no skill points in them at all. Am I missing something to gain spell power using dual wield?

MrDerrikk

Beardimus wrote: »

Hi @daemonios im in a similar position to the OP VR Sorc looking for high damage and trying to get my head around the Dual hand thing -

"Finally, most Sorc DPS builds use either 2H or dual wielding (2x swords) as off-hand because the weapons and the passives give you greater spell damage than any staff. Just fill that bar with non-weapon skills"

ive seen that advice on so many threads but I only see Weopon damage boosts in the DH passives not spell power - or am I missing this? I run dual wields for the enchant boost, and trait boost - but never use the weopons so no skill points in them at all. Am I missing something to gain spell power using dual wield?

The swrods themselves give the same amount fo weapon damage as spell power passively, and then you have the passive where swords increase your power (both spell and weapon dmg) by 5%. Other than these, no passives are needed in these skill lines.

Beardimus

Thanks @MrDerrikk so I just need to get DW to L50 and two points in the bottom passive (blade & blunt) and that's it. I read on UESP skills tree that it only boosted weapon damage & crit rather than spell so that's great to know!!!!!

Staff is still my main hand though as I use crushing shock as main attack between procced frags so need to have a bar rejig perhaps.

Brrrofski

Beardimus wrote: »

Thanks @MrDerrikk so I just need to get DW to L50 and two points in the bottom passive (blade & blunt) and that's it. I read on UESP skills tree that it only boosted weapon damage & crit rather than spell so that's great to know!!!!!

Staff is still my main hand though as I use crushing shock as main attack between procced frags so need to have a bar rejig perhaps.

It's important to note that it no longer boosts your spell damage figure.

But it does give you the 5% damage. It will only show on skill tooltip though, nowhere on your character sheet though.

A lot of dual wield sorc seem to run tangling webs from the undaunted skill line.

Beardimus

Ok got it! Thanks!! , i'm on Xbox so no tool tips - just the Char Sheet to reference. Things not showing there confuse me too - such as Champ Point bonuses. Makes it all quite hard!

Troneon

Sorcs OP.