So it's been 2 years...

riverdragon72

When do we get the PVP that was advertised, promoted,promised, and payed for (some still paying)?

DannyLV702

i think i should be done with this game in a good week or two. no longer entertained by being killed every time i leave my keep because lag kicks in once more than two people are fighting...

Teargrants

PainfulFAFA

It'll be 2 years in 4 months (i.e 4/4/16)

riverdragon72

just for the record another day/night of [snip] performance and long loading screens.

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Yolokin_Swagonborn

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

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Other studios remove broken mechanics in a matter of weeks not months.

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Alomar

Just coast it out and take advantage of the b2p feature. In overall there's been no worthwhile pvp features added to Cyrodiil since launch (Not counting new siege, milegate changes, imperial city, etc.). This game's pvp is easily 15-20% as good of what it was at launch, some game breaking bugs aside. Many realized, like myself, this was the case 9 months to a year ago and that nothing would change.

Most real pvpers gave up on ESO a long time ago and there's been a steady trend following suit each month. Just accept ESO for what it is, a temporary home till the next open world pvp comes out, BDO -> CU -> etc.

Knootewoot

Tonight PvP for 1 hour. LAG LAG LAG traveled to a keep was a mistake. Using horse maybe 1-2 mins. Teleporting 7 minutes, Long loading screens, lag and one unhappy customer.

Well to cool of i go play some Fallout 4.

frozywozy

Zenimax brought a tons of fixes into the game. Lot of them were not even mentioned in the patch notes even though they were really important ones. It's alot easier to notice what is still broken and what gets broken after a major update than what got fixed. Sometimes I realize a very annoying bug only 1 or 2 month after it actually got fixed and I'm like.. Oh yeah this problem doesn't occur anymore, nice they fixed it!

Most people don't even read patchnotes, especially for major updates, because they are huge. Lot of bugs get fixed and lot of people won't even realize it. Have to give credit to Zenimax for constantly improving their game over the years. The blame goes to the original creators (programmers) of the game, the customers support and the behaviour of players nowadays who don't wanna play the game the way it works (smaller groups, multiple locations at once on the map).

Hopefuly forward camps will help people spread out further.

sadownik

frozywozy wrote: »

Zenimax brought a tons of fixes into the game. Lot of them were not even mentioned in the patch notes even though they were really important ones. It's alot easier to notice what is still broken and what gets broken after a major update than what got fixed. Sometimes I realize a very annoying bug only 1 or 2 month after it actually got fixed and I'm like.. Oh yeah this problem doesn't occur anymore, nice they fixed it!

Most people don't even read patchnotes, especially for major updates, because they are huge. Lot of bugs get fixed and lot of people won't even realize it. Have to give credit to Zenimax for constantly improving their game over the years. The blame goes to the original creators (programmers) of the game, the customers support and the behaviour of players nowadays who don't wanna play the game the way it works (smaller groups, multiple locations at once on the map).

Hopefuly forward camps will help people spread out further.

I dont need to read patch notes. I just need to log in Azura EU on prime time (the only time where there is population) to see that there is something terribly wrong.

While Z. does fix bugs, it also creates new ones, or - something i never noticed in any MMO i played- reanimates old bugs that suddenly happen again.

If you add to that the rate at which bugs are fixed you dont have to be genius to understand that game will always be in semi broken state if there will be no drastic change to handling patches.

Blaming players for playing the game this way or another is extremely stupid. Game is played in the way that it can be played to give players maximum benefits in minimum time. It always was like that and it always will be.

Rylana

PainfulFAFA wrote: »

It'll be 2 years in 4 months (i.e 4/4/16)

Except for those of us from closed beta

For me 2 years was back in October.

frozywozy

sadownik wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

Zenimax brought a tons of fixes into the game. Lot of them were not even mentioned in the patch notes even though they were really important ones. It's alot easier to notice what is still broken and what gets broken after a major update than what got fixed. Sometimes I realize a very annoying bug only 1 or 2 month after it actually got fixed and I'm like.. Oh yeah this problem doesn't occur anymore, nice they fixed it!

Most people don't even read patchnotes, especially for major updates, because they are huge. Lot of bugs get fixed and lot of people won't even realize it. Have to give credit to Zenimax for constantly improving their game over the years. The blame goes to the original creators (programmers) of the game, the customers support and the behaviour of players nowadays who don't wanna play the game the way it works (smaller groups, multiple locations at once on the map).

Hopefuly forward camps will help people spread out further.

I dont need to read patch notes. I just need to log in Azura EU on prime time (the only time where there is population) to see that there is something terribly wrong.

While Z. does fix bugs, it also creates new ones, or - something i never noticed in any MMO i played- reanimates old bugs that suddenly happen again.

If you add to that the rate at which bugs are fixed you dont have to be genius to understand that game will always be in semi broken state if there will be no drastic change to handling patches.

Blaming players for playing the game this way or another is extremely stupid. Game is played in the way that it can be played to give players maximum benefits in minimum time. It always was like that and it always will be.

Keep running in your 24men ball group then. On my side of the planet, I'm gonna do everything I can to make this game work with what we have and help make it better. When Zenimax finds the way to make large ball groups working, I will be glad to run in one from time to time with/against you.

k2blader

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

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Forest, it's always nice to agree with you once in a blue moon. :-)

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Raizin

frozywozy wrote: »

Hopefuly forward camps will help people spread out further.

i know that in your heart, u dont actualy believe this

Rylana wrote: »

PainfulFAFA wrote: »

It'll be 2 years in 4 months (i.e 4/4/16)

Except for those of us from closed beta

For me 2 years was back in October.

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