[Etaniel] Magicka DK PvP video (not a troll)

Yuke

Noricum best pvp video guild EU

KostasDragonborn

Nice vid again dude! I subbed on YT. I'm all about the Mag DK.

You're still running 5L1H1M? I'm running 5H now and dropped the resto for double S&S. The heals are of course much less effective with dragons blood, but I'm needing to heal much less with much higher resistance. The best part though is NB's try to gank me out of stealth and fail to do their little one two hit camo hunter combo and then they're all out of tricks and die.

Etaniel

KostasDragonborn wrote: »

Nice vid again dude! I subbed on YT. I'm all about the Mag DK.

You're still running 5L1H1M? I'm running 5H now and dropped the resto for double S&S. The heals are of course much less effective with dragons blood, but I'm needing to heal much less with much higher resistance. The best part though is NB's try to gank me out of stealth and fail to do their little one two hit camo hunter combo and then they're all out of tricks and die.

Still 5l yes
Been wanting to try 5h, will craft some gear soon.

Erondil

Awesome build and awesome video, you guys are impressive to watch.

Maulkin

Does this (or did this) happen during the daytime? Cause when I come home at 7pm and decide to log into the game.... the two campaigns with population have 400 ping each and there's a proxy-det/nooblado train on every freaking corner of the map.

It's come to the point where I've stopped PvPing and I'm just farming vMA till they either sort their **** out or i get bored and quit.

Beesting

Awesome,

I love your vids and am using the same armor combo now, i dont have any problems surviving while running with the raid

The good thing about 5 light is i get a lot of spell cost reduction which helps with the great choking talons, deep breath combo
I dont know how important the spell penetration passive is in cyro

But i did notice while using 5 heavy ( elf bane ) that i ran out of magica much quicker. The 5 k extra resistance from volatile armor is enough for me

Thanks for the inspiration and i hope you will be around for a long time to come

Mojomonkeyman

Beautiful.

Etaniel

mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »

Does this (or did this) happen during the daytime? Cause when I come home at 7pm and decide to log into the game.... the two campaigns with population have 400 ping each and there's a proxy-det/nooblado train on every freaking corner of the map.

It's come to the point where I've stopped PvPing and I'm just farming vMA till they either sort their **** out or i get bored and quit.

This sort of PvP happens very rarely. You won't find it on Azura that's for sure... It requires decent ping, and a particular breed of PvE players to pull off. You'll find that kind of stuff on empty campaigns, when a entire raid decides it's fun to go capture undefended keeps.

Etaniel

Erondil wrote: »

Awesome build and awesome video, you guys are impressive to watch.

Beesting wrote: »

Awesome,

I love your vids and am using the same armor combo now, i dont have any problems surviving while running with the raid

The good thing about 5 light is i get a lot of spell cost reduction which helps with the great choking talons, deep breath combo
I dont know how important the spell penetration passive is in cyro

But i did notice while using 5 heavy ( elf bane ) that i ran out of magica much quicker. The 5 k extra resistance from volatile armor is enough for me

Thanks for the inspiration and i hope you will be around for a long time to come

Mojomonkeyman wrote: »

Beautiful.

Thanks for the kind words guys

KostasDragonborn

Beesting wrote: »

Awesome,

I love your vids and am using the same armor combo now, i dont have any problems surviving while running with the raid

The good thing about 5 light is i get a lot of spell cost reduction which helps with the great choking talons, deep breath combo
I dont know how important the spell penetration passive is in cyro

But i did notice while using 5 heavy ( elf bane ) that i ran out of magica much quicker. The 5 k extra resistance from volatile armor is enough for me

Thanks for the inspiration and i hope you will be around for a long time to come

I couldn't sustain my magicka DK in 5H Elf Bane either. I switched to 3 Magnus, 1 Kena Shoulder (can substitute with Magnus for same spell damage) and 5H Kagrenac. Holistic composition of 5H1L1M, and 3x arcane Willpower jewelry.

These are the stats I'm working with now in Cyro with a tri-stat food buff active. I have 100 points in Arcanist and am Vamp. 2k mana regen would be great, but I can't seem to reach that even with Atronach mundus and divines on small armor pieces.



This is with Entropy or Spell Damage potion, Inner Light, and Hardened Armor active.

IxskullzxI

KostasDragonborn wrote: »

Beesting wrote: »

Awesome,

I love your vids and am using the same armor combo now, i dont have any problems surviving while running with the raid

The good thing about 5 light is i get a lot of spell cost reduction which helps with the great choking talons, deep breath combo
I dont know how important the spell penetration passive is in cyro

But i did notice while using 5 heavy ( elf bane ) that i ran out of magica much quicker. The 5 k extra resistance from volatile armor is enough for me

Thanks for the inspiration and i hope you will be around for a long time to come

I couldn't sustain my magicka DK in 5H Elf Bane either. I switched to 3 Magnus, 1 Kena Shoulder (can substitute with Magnus for same spell damage) and 5H Kagrenac. Holistic composition of 5H1L1M, and 3x arcane Willpower jewelry.

These are the stats I'm working with now in Cyro with a tri-stat food buff active. I have 100 points in Arcanist and am Vamp. 2k mana regen would be great, but I can't seem to reach that even with Atronach mundus and divines on small armor pieces.



This is with Entropy or Spell Damage potion, Inner Light, and Hardened Armor active.

How are you at 40k magicka?

hammayolettuce

IxskullzxI wrote: »

KostasDragonborn wrote: »

Beesting wrote: »

Awesome,

I love your vids and am using the same armor combo now, i dont have any problems surviving while running with the raid

The good thing about 5 light is i get a lot of spell cost reduction which helps with the great choking talons, deep breath combo
I dont know how important the spell penetration passive is in cyro

But i did notice while using 5 heavy ( elf bane ) that i ran out of magica much quicker. The 5 k extra resistance from volatile armor is enough for me

Thanks for the inspiration and i hope you will be around for a long time to come

I couldn't sustain my magicka DK in 5H Elf Bane either. I switched to 3 Magnus, 1 Kena Shoulder (can substitute with Magnus for same spell damage) and 5H Kagrenac. Holistic composition of 5H1L1M, and 3x arcane Willpower jewelry.

These are the stats I'm working with now in Cyro with a tri-stat food buff active. I have 100 points in Arcanist and am Vamp. 2k mana regen would be great, but I can't seem to reach that even with Atronach mundus and divines on small armor pieces.



This is with Entropy or Spell Damage potion, Inner Light, and Hardened Armor active.

How are you at 40k magicka?

Legendary gear with max magicka enchants .. not very difficult to pull off if you do a 5/1/1 setup as well.

frozywozy

Problem with a magicka DK is that if you get constantly rooted / mini stunned / cced, you run out of stamina very quickly and you die. If people you're fighting don't use such things that much against you and you manage your stamina relatively well, you can do miracles, as it's demonstrated in this video.

But when you play against great players, you're constantly mini-stunned, rooted and cced so it makes it really hard to manage your stamina. And if you invest too much into stamina management, you won't deal enough damage. Reason why in the first time, cc breaking, dodge rolling, bashing, sneaking and sprinting should be on a different ressource bar to not penalize magicka users who can't relay on shields to defend themselves and are forced to fight in melee range without any valuable class heal.

Ghostbane

As always, nice is nice. Great fights.

Have you played with Law of Julianos Set? Worth the hassle?

_Chaos

Ghostbane wrote: »

As always, nice is nice. Great fights.

Have you played with Law of Julianos Set? Worth the hassle?

imo,

5x Julianos
3x Elf Bane (4x with DW or S&B)

Heavy atk weave+drink for sustain

gg

Etaniel

spenc_cathb16_ESO wrote: »

Ghostbane wrote: »

As always, nice is nice. Great fights.

Have you played with Law of Julianos Set? Worth the hassle?

imo,

5x Julianos
3x Elf Bane (4x with DW or S&B)

Heavy atk weave+drink for sustain

gg

Heavy attack weaving is not reliable in outnumbered situations though

Hexys

Very nice video again : D

Morozov

5H-1L-1M...im running a 4x elf bane, kena shoulder, and 4x magnus, arcane jewlery, SnB/resto setup. I have no issue at all with magicka. sitting pretty at about 36k mag with 10 points in either stam or health depending on the time of day.

Gotta agree with @frozywozy , running out of stamina is the pits. Standing there with no stam you basically /sitchair till you die.

@Etaniel, you ever try tri-stat-glyphs for additional resources for a possible solo build?

Etaniel

Morozov wrote: »

5H-1L-1M...im running a 4x elf bane, kena shoulder, and 4x magnus, arcane jewlery, SnB/resto setup. I have no issue at all with magicka. sitting pretty at about 36k mag with 10 points in either stam or health depending on the time of day.

Gotta agree with @frozywozy , running out of stamina is the pits. Standing there with no stam you basically /sitchair till you die.

@Etaniel, you ever try tri-stat-glyphs for additional resources for a possible solo build?

Could you give more detailed info on your stats? hp, stam, and regens?
With your setup it seems like you'd have a lot less magicka regen than with mine

I already use tri stat glyphs on 2 armor pieces.

KostasDragonborn

Honestly, with 5 heavy the leading factor allowing me to sustain and not run dry on magicka is battle roar passive and vamp, 100 ultimate for batswarm accumulates super fast and I use it as soon as it is available. With Elf Bane it wasn't a viable set up for sustaining resources (mana mainly) due to less regeneration. I'm loving the 5 heavy though, and I'm running a resto staff again for that burst heal.

I am grinding CP lately and I drop a meteor on a mob and instantly have enough ultimate to activate bat swarm.

Getting mana regen from multiple sources. Kagrenac set, Magnus set, 25% from Arcanist CP passive, 10% from vamp passive, mundus stone and divines, 2 mana regen glyphs on jewelry, all that and I'm only at 1700 regen due to 5H.

If you're running tri stat food instead of blue food and tri pots you should not have stamina issues.

Etaniel

KostasDragonborn wrote: »

Honestly, with 5 heavy the leading factor allowing me to sustain and not run dry on magicka is battle roar passive and vamp, 100 ultimate for batswarm accumulates super fast and I use it as soon as it is available. With Elf Bane it wasn't a viable set up for sustaining resources (mana mainly) due to less regeneration. I'm loving the 5 heavy though, and I'm running a resto staff again for that burst heal.

I am grinding CP lately and I drop a meteor on a mob and instantly have enough ultimate to activate bat swarm.

Getting mana regen from multiple sources. Kagrenac set, Magnus set, 25% from Arcanist CP passive, 10% from vamp passive, mundus stone and divines, 2 mana regen glyphs on jewelry, all that and I'm only at 1700 regen due to 5H.

If you're running tri stat food instead of blue food and tri pots you should not have stamina

vamp swarm is 158, not 100.. 20 additional seconds of cooldown basically

SteLuppi91

Heavy armor without cost reduction? O_o
without cost reduction a DK light armor have some problem and you play without in heavy....WOW

SteLuppi91

Btw really nice vid Etaniel!:)

KostasDragonborn

SteLuppi91 wrote: »

Heavy armor without cost reduction? O_o
without cost reduction a DK light armor have some problem and you play without in heavy....WOW

only cost reduction is in the CP passives. I'm not going to sacrifice regeneration for cost reduction. I played in light armor exclusively without cost reduction and never had any problems with mana sustain.

Yes, Etaniel I just realized Bat Swarm is 158, seemed like less because it fills up so fast.

Etaniel

KostasDragonborn wrote: »

SteLuppi91 wrote: »

Heavy armor without cost reduction? O_o
without cost reduction a DK light armor have some problem and you play without in heavy....WOW

only cost reduction is in the CP passives. I'm not going to sacrifice regeneration for cost reduction. I played in light armor exclusively without cost reduction and never had any problems with mana sustain.

Yes, Etaniel I just realized Bat Swarm is 158, seemed like less because it fills up so fast.

I have another set up in mind, will try to get it crafted this weekend

frozywozy

I've watched @Sypher stream on EU servers couple days ago. He was playing his stamina nightblade and was dueling a great magicka DK player and believe it or not, the fight was really close. Sypher blamed it on the broken damage mitigation of vampires when they're low health but I don't think that's a problem personally. I was vamp on my magicka DK before I rerolled, I tried several setups and nothing worked.

I would be really interested to know what kind of build Legendary Omar is running if anyone know something about it or a way to communicate with him (forums, pms, etc).

Etaniel

frozywozy wrote: »

I've watched @Sypher stream on EU servers couple days ago. He was playing his stamina nightblade and was dueling a great magicka DK player and believe it or not, the fight was really close. Sypher blamed it on the broken damage mitigation of vampires when they're low health but I don't think that's a problem personally. I was vamp on my magicka DK before I rerolled, I tried several setups and nothing worked.

I would be really interested to know what kind of build Legendary Omar is running if anyone know something about it or a way to communicate with him (forums, pms, etc).

All I know is that fights between me and Omar magicka dks are boring and take ages, usually end in draws

Wollust

Love how you have to note that it's not a troll magicka DK video. Says more than enough

Very nice vid!

frozywozy

Etaniel wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

I've watched @Sypher stream on EU servers couple days ago. He was playing his stamina nightblade and was dueling a great magicka DK player and believe it or not, the fight was really close. Sypher blamed it on the broken damage mitigation of vampires when they're low health but I don't think that's a problem personally. I was vamp on my magicka DK before I rerolled, I tried several setups and nothing worked.

I would be really interested to know what kind of build Legendary Omar is running if anyone know something about it or a way to communicate with him (forums, pms, etc).

All I know is that fights between me and Omar magicka dks are boring and take ages, usually end in draws

When fights take forever, it's usually a magicka against magicka fight and abuse of shield stacking (hardened ward, igneous shield, healing ward, harness magicka) and the reason why shield stacking should be adressed another way than releasing a specific set 5pc bonus. The other reason would be because one or the other doesn't have enough points in thaumaturge / elemental expert (150+) or just simply too many points in hardy, thick skinned and elemental resistances.

Magicka damage is still way too easy to mitigate compared to physical resistances (increase light/medium/heavy armor bonus) and harder to increase compared to physical damage who relay only on mighty.

Ishammael

Etaniel wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

I've watched @Sypher stream on EU servers couple days ago. He was playing his stamina nightblade and was dueling a great magicka DK player and believe it or not, the fight was really close. Sypher blamed it on the broken damage mitigation of vampires when they're low health but I don't think that's a problem personally. I was vamp on my magicka DK before I rerolled, I tried several setups and nothing worked.

I would be really interested to know what kind of build Legendary Omar is running if anyone know something about it or a way to communicate with him (forums, pms, etc).

All I know is that fights between me and Omar magicka dks are boring and take ages, usually end in draws

One thing I want to try is pariah plus vampire.

In any case, I have been running will, Kag, Magnus in 5h for a while now. It is solid, but not stand out. Basically, you will be chugging pots like crazy and heavy attacking with your resto. The hardest problem for magicka DKs is lack of burst coupled with the ease of purging DoTs.