DreUGH Wax

Waffennacht

My best luck has come from my hirelings. I haven't actively farmed for gold improvement peices though.

I would guess the lesser mats would be more beneficial as they are very easy to come by.

I have noticed less motifs but haven't noticed a change in much else

Moonshadow66

WhiskeyRiver.AZub17_ESO wrote: »

Moonshadow66 wrote: »

WhiskeyRiver.AZub17_ESO wrote: »

Moonshadow66 wrote: »

WhiskeyRiver.AZub17_ESO wrote: »

I've only gotten one since game beginning.

You've got to be kidding!
You mean literally since launch/prelaunch, PC? Wow!

Yup.I swear it.Only one.Heck,I've only gotten two yellow recipes.Those are the only yellows I have ever gotten.Odd,huh?

This kind is odd indeed.. I don't suppose I have to ask if you're using the according passives for refining mats? (Since you're a player of the first hour, you'll know anyways, I'm sure).
What are your hirelings dropping, do they give you some useful stuff, at least (also with the according passives)?

And yeah, it's a lot easier with these recipes, I've "only" gotten two as well, it's the one from a quest in Wrothgar, and the Psijic Ambrosia recipe I combined out of fragments^^

Believe me,all my passives should allow for gold/yellow items,but nope. It's just funny.I dont get bothered by it,until I attempt to make something legendary.THEN it gets annoying,..and expensive as I have to buy what I need to use to make it Legendary.

Then I guess it's really bad RNG combined with the generally lousy drop rate... Lately, it got me, too...
During my time in ESO (from the beginning), I gathered a TON of Tempering Alloy and barely had any use for them since none of my characters is a tank, they're wearing 1-2 pieces of heavy armor maximum and much later I started using metal weapons with only two characters.
So far so good, the Tempering Alloy was still enough to improve all that stuff. I still had a ton left and thought, why not selling a large part of them? Well, I did, they sold like hot Sweetrolls since I lowered the price per 8 in a bundle. And I thought I still could rely on the drops from refining, hirelings or writs to always have just enough for a new piece of armor or a weapon to improve.... Well, no, I can't. it's all gone, and pretty much nothing drops ANYwhere anymore in weeks. So my newest daggers are purple. Really, I even can break down outworn legendary armor and I'm out of luck, or I refine thousands of ores and still get no drop anymore.
It's basically the same now with Dreugh Wax and Rosin as well, the drop rate must be a joke!

Dagoth_Rac

95% chance that any refinement will not give a gold temper. 20 refinements per stack. .95 ^ 20 = 0.3585. So roughly a 36% chance that any given stack will not return a gold temper. So, you are more likely to get a gold temper than not from a stack, but 36% is still a pretty significant chance at nothing.

Necrelios

The only time I ever seem to get Dreugh Wax is from refining leather. Usually about 1 per 100, but sometimes it can be more or less, very much dependent on the nature of RNG. I can't remember ever getting it from refining cloth. Way easier just to buy it from a guild seller.

MrDerrikk

Necrelios wrote: »

The only time I ever seem to get Dreugh Wax is from refining leather. Usually about 1 per 100, but sometimes it can be more or less, very much dependent on the nature of RNG. I can't remember ever getting it from refining cloth. Way easier just to buy it from a guild seller.

I only ever seem to get it from stacks of Void Bloom myself; it got to the point I was buying the stacks as it was the best way for me...

Pyr0xyrecuprotite

the RNG gave me 5 Dreugh wax for refining about 300 raw mats this morning.
I used to get about 1 gold per 100 unrefined mats, and have noticed a slight decline in that rate on average recently. The random fluctuations make it hard to tell for sure tho.

Islyn

WhiskeyRiver.AZub17_ESO wrote: »

Moonshadow66 wrote: »

WhiskeyRiver.AZub17_ESO wrote: »

I've only gotten one since game beginning.

You've got to be kidding!
You mean literally since launch/prelaunch, PC? Wow!

Yup.I swear it.Only one.Heck,I've only gotten two yellow recipes.Those are the only yellows I have ever gotten.Odd,huh?

The game only HAS ONE yellow recipe that you get from a quest.....and anyone with DLC can get it

Forestd16b14_ESO

Um.... well my luck have it I always get 1 or 2 every time I reform mats. Wouldn't happen want to trade for temp alloys ? You have what I want I have what you want.

Moonshadow66

Islyn wrote: »

WhiskeyRiver.AZub17_ESO wrote: »

Moonshadow66 wrote: »

WhiskeyRiver.AZub17_ESO wrote: »

I've only gotten one since game beginning.

You've got to be kidding!
You mean literally since launch/prelaunch, PC? Wow!

Yup.I swear it.Only one.Heck,I've only gotten two yellow recipes.Those are the only yellows I have ever gotten.Odd,huh?

The game only HAS ONE yellow recipe that you get from a quest.....and anyone with DLC can get it

The game currently has TWO yellow recipes. She didn't mention them coming both from a quest.

DRXHarbinger

Run craglorn. It's dead now. Well it is on xbox I had the whole area to myself the other day. Farmed over 4k raw mats in total (just 2 nirncruxs ffs) in about 2hrs. Refined it gave about 5 of each temper. But overwhelmed inventory with all the other crap that comes with it. Nice little earner I think. All temp get sold in a stack of 8 for 65k. Dreugh wax and rosins slightly lower. Didn't find a single Kuta. Haven't for weeks. Think they've gone on holiday with Molags ghost from IC.

Islyn

Moonshadow66 wrote: »

Islyn wrote: »

WhiskeyRiver.AZub17_ESO wrote: »

Moonshadow66 wrote: »

WhiskeyRiver.AZub17_ESO wrote: »

I've only gotten one since game beginning.

You've got to be kidding!
You mean literally since launch/prelaunch, PC? Wow!

Yup.I swear it.Only one.Heck,I've only gotten two yellow recipes.Those are the only yellows I have ever gotten.Odd,huh?

The game only HAS ONE yellow recipe that you get from a quest.....and anyone with DLC can get it

The game currently has TWO yellow recipes. She didn't mention them coming both from a quest.

Oh you mean the Psijic Potion thing?

Volkodav

Moonshadow66 wrote: »

WhiskeyRiver.AZub17_ESO wrote: »

Moonshadow66 wrote: »

WhiskeyRiver.AZub17_ESO wrote: »

Moonshadow66 wrote: »

WhiskeyRiver.AZub17_ESO wrote: »

I've only gotten one since game beginning.

You've got to be kidding!
You mean literally since launch/prelaunch, PC? Wow!

Yup.I swear it.Only one.Heck,I've only gotten two yellow recipes.Those are the only yellows I have ever gotten.Odd,huh?

This kind is odd indeed.. I don't suppose I have to ask if you're using the according passives for refining mats? (Since you're a player of the first hour, you'll know anyways, I'm sure).
What are your hirelings dropping, do they give you some useful stuff, at least (also with the according passives)?

And yeah, it's a lot easier with these recipes, I've "only" gotten two as well, it's the one from a quest in Wrothgar, and the Psijic Ambrosia recipe I combined out of fragments^^

Believe me,all my passives should allow for gold/yellow items,but nope. It's just funny.I dont get bothered by it,until I attempt to make something legendary.THEN it gets annoying,..and expensive as I have to buy what I need to use to make it Legendary.

Then I guess it's really bad RNG combined with the generally lousy drop rate... Lately, it got me, too...
During my time in ESO (from the beginning), I gathered a TON of Tempering Alloy and barely had any use for them since none of my characters is a tank, they're wearing 1-2 pieces of heavy armor maximum and much later I started using metal weapons with only two characters.
So far so good, the Tempering Alloy was still enough to improve all that stuff. I still had a ton left and thought, why not selling a large part of them? Well, I did, they sold like hot Sweetrolls since I lowered the price per 8 in a bundle. And I thought I still could rely on the drops from refining, hirelings or writs to always have just enough for a new piece of armor or a weapon to improve.... Well, no, I can't. it's all gone, and pretty much nothing drops ANYwhere anymore in weeks. So my newest daggers are purple. Really, I even can break down outworn legendary armor and I'm out of luck, or I refine thousands of ores and still get no drop anymore.
It's basically the same now with Dreugh Wax and Rosin as well, the drop rate must be a joke!

Oh,I cant tell you how much I have had to pay for Rosin! Although,I have now managed to buy two Dreugh Wax bits.I still need 18 more to do my Prismatic bow.Years from now,......

Draxys

The RNG is complete trash for a game where they keep messing with existing sets and adding levels and better gear. I feel like they nerfed the rate from mails and refining because of all the people with 7 mail alts, but classic zos, it was more of a nerf for people who don't have the 7 alts. I've gotten a grand total of 6 yellow mats (from all categories) in about a week of grinding mats and stuff in orsinium.

DRXHarbinger

Farm craglorn. You can net over 1k raw mats in under 2hrs just doing laps of the land. Break it down and you'll get plenty plus nirncruxs and about 4ks worth of mats to sell to a vendor.

Islyn

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

Farm craglorn. You can net over 1k raw mats in under 2hrs just doing laps of the land. Break it down and you'll get plenty plus nirncruxs and about 4ks worth of mats to sell to a vendor.

When did you get nc last? I ask because I farm crag and have had bad luck the last 2 weeks.

Tavore1138

Looking back at my records it averaged around 1 gold material per 200-250 raw although varying quite a lot per set of refines - since Orsinium dropped that ratio appears to have dropped to anout 1/350-400 except with ore where it may have actually tipped up ever so slightly... but I have a lot more date pre-Orsinium than I do post-Orsinium.

The real killer is the Aspect rune drop rates where I don't think I have seen a single Kuta from harvesting since Orsinium dropped vs. one every couple of days before - but I don't have actual number data for that.

DRXHarbinger

@Islyn yesterday's farm netted me 6 in total. 4 fortified and 2 potent. None from today's mind. But still 11 golds in total. Nice bit of cash.

DRXHarbinger

They were 2 double nirns too. Like 4 void and one potent and one fortified all at once. Had 3 of that happen now. 2 kutas too. Aspect nodes are actually quite rare in craglorn.

Pangnirtung

I havent noticed much of a difference in drops and mainly because I refine everything that I get and use very little that I have at least three stacks of 200 of rosin, wax and kuta in the bank.

Maybe the trick is to not make new weapons and armor every couple of weeks or so?

Smitch_59

Does one's crafting skill affect the number of gold/purple drops when refining? In other words, will a high crafting skill yield more/better tempers than a low crafting skill?

helediron

Smitch_59 wrote: »

Does one's crafting skill affect the number of gold/purple drops when refining? In other words, will a high crafting skill yield more/better tempers than a low crafting skill?

You need extraction passive in each profession, e.g. Metal Extraction in Blacksmithing to have 3/3 points. I can't comment about actual skill level, because i only have extracted with maximized crafters. Anyway, reaching that passive needs rather high skill level.

Malmai

MrDerrikk wrote: »

I used to get around 1 per stack for void bloom, but apparently all gold temper drops have been nerfed since Orsinium...

Repeatedly yes

Deandril

SuraklinPrime wrote: »

Looking back at my records it averaged around 1 gold material per 200-250 raw although varying quite a lot per set of refines - since Orsinium dropped that ratio appears to have dropped to anout 1/350-400 except with ore where it may have actually tipped up ever so slightly... but I have a lot more date pre-Orsinium than I do post-Orsinium.

The real killer is the Aspect rune drop rates where I don't think I have seen a single Kuta from harvesting since Orsinium dropped vs. one every couple of days before - but I don't have actual number data for that.

I got 10 kuta all at once from looting a heavy sack the other day. Made up some for the months on end of seemingly endless ta. I'm sure I'll go straight back to my awful rng.

Islyn

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

@Islyn yesterday's farm netted me 6 in total. 4 fortified and 2 potent. None from today's mind. But still 11 golds in total. Nice bit of cash.

Oh good to know! I am OK with it being 'just my luck' at times Thanks!

Islyn

Pangnirtung wrote: »

I havent noticed much of a difference in drops and mainly because I refine everything that I get and use very little that I have at least three stacks of 200 of rosin, wax and kuta in the bank.

Maybe the trick is to not make new weapons and armor every couple of weeks or so?

Making or not making new armor/weapons doesn't change my RNG xD

You farm more, I End Game more. I am also a GM so I help other people gear too, etc.

For 7 pieces of armor and 3 weapons it costs 80 gold mats. x 2 (for me v16) that's 160. Given than people want me to also DPS on my healer, add 80 to that. 240. Per patch.

Also, 39 kuta. per patch. (1 per wep and armor piece, and 1 per jewelry)

So - yeah i don't make new gear all the time. I make new when it is necessary.

thanks!! xD