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Racial passives
Junkogen
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Has there been any word about any further adjusting or changing of racial passives? I know over the summer they said they would tweak them and then possibly make more drastic changes with the release of a race change option. Any updates on this issue?
Thank you.
Thank you.
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Justice31st✭✭✭✭✭
✭They already tweaked them. I doubt they will again for awhile.Edited by Justice31st on November 19, 2015 12:30AM"The more you know who you are, and what you want, the less you let things upset you."2 -
zornyan✭✭✭✭✭There are large changes happening next year, early on.
Many people were unhappy about some of the small changes made recently, about aragonians etc.
Zos said at the time that it was only a minor change, and there will be an overhaul (will full Class rebalance) early on next year, they are release race change as an option at the same time to.2 -
Tryxus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭There are large changes happening next year, early on.
Many people were unhappy about some of the small changes made recently, about aragonians etc.
Zos said at the time that it was only a minor change, and there will be an overhaul (will full Class rebalance) early on next year, they are release race change as an option at the same time to.
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hrothbern✭✭✭✭✭
✭If the change to come will be major... we should be able, as one-time action, to change our racial. And get a month or so time to make a decision.
If the change is really big, it will affect the combination of racial & class....."I still do not understand why I followed the advice of Captain Rana to bring the villagers of Bleakrock into safety. We should have fought for our village and not have backed down, with our tail between our legs. Now my home village is in shambles, the houses burning, the invaders feasting.I swear every day to Shor that after Molag Bal has been defeated, I will hunt down the invaders and restore peace in Bleakrock and drink my mead with my friends at the market place".PC-EU0 -
Justice31st✭✭✭✭✭
✭If the change to come will be major... we should be able, as one-time action, to change our racial. And get a month or so time to make a decision.
If the change is really big, it will affect the combination of racial & class.....
ZOS would never allow people a free race change. Why would people want to change their race more than once? They would lose a lot of money."The more you know who you are, and what you want, the less you let things upset you."1 -
Junkogen✭✭✭✭✭There are large changes happening next year, early on.
Many people were unhappy about some of the small changes made recently, about aragonians etc.
Zos said at the time that it was only a minor change, and there will be an overhaul (will full Class rebalance) early on next year, they are release race change as an option at the same time to.
I dare not reveal just how excited this made me.
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There are large changes happening next year, early on.
Many people were unhappy about some of the small changes made recently, about aragonians etc.
Zos said at the time that it was only a minor change, and there will be an overhaul (will full Class rebalance) early on next year, they are release race change as an option at the same time to.
I dare not reveal just how excited this made me.
Aw, Junkogen. XOXO, keep on fighting the good fight for your Argonian brethren. ---
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Junkogen✭✭✭✭✭trippingchrissy wrote: »There are large changes happening next year, early on.
Many people were unhappy about some of the small changes made recently, about aragonians etc.
Zos said at the time that it was only a minor change, and there will be an overhaul (will full Class rebalance) early on next year, they are release race change as an option at the same time to.
I dare not reveal just how excited this made me.
Aw, Junkogen. XOXO, keep on fighting the good fight for your Argonian brethren.
Thanks, Chrissy. I think at this point ZOS probably thinks of me as that drunk guy in the bar who just won't take a hint. I keep trying, though. Argonians deserve equality!2 -
Artjuh90✭✭✭✭✭
✭would like to see beter healing passives for agronians given they have the 15% faster resto staff so it makes sence their other passives would fit with this one0 -
uso245✭✭✭There are large changes happening next year, early on.
Many people were unhappy about some of the small changes made recently, about aragonians etc.
Zos said at the time that it was only a minor change, and there will be an overhaul (will full Class rebalance) early on next year, they are release race change as an option at the same time to.
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zornyan✭✭✭✭✭There are large changes happening next year, early on.
Many people were unhappy about some of the small changes made recently, about aragonians etc.
Zos said at the time that it was only a minor change, and there will be an overhaul (will full Class rebalance) early on next year, they are release race change as an option at the same time to.
Source?
It was mentioned alot by Gina and rich during the IC PTS update, got talked about on one of the following live streams, and in a recent thread about the barbershop it's coming along side race change.
But they don't want to offer race change until passives have been reworked as intended.0 -
Junkogen✭✭✭✭✭There are large changes happening next year, early on.
Many people were unhappy about some of the small changes made recently, about aragonians etc.
Zos said at the time that it was only a minor change, and there will be an overhaul (will full Class rebalance) early on next year, they are release race change as an option at the same time to.
Source?
It was mentioned alot by Gina and rich during the IC PTS update, got talked about on one of the following live streams, and in a recent thread about the barbershop it's coming along side race change.
But they don't want to offer race change until passives have been reworked as intended.
What does "reworked as intended" mean? Argonian passives will still be crap, but at least they'll be as crappy as intended?0 -
Jitterbug✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭There are large changes happening next year, early on.
Many people were unhappy about some of the small changes made recently, about aragonians etc.
Zos said at the time that it was only a minor change, and there will be an overhaul (will full Class rebalance) early on next year, they are release race change as an option at the same time to.
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Yes please. For the Hist!trippingchrissy wrote: »There are large changes happening next year, early on.
Many people were unhappy about some of the small changes made recently, about aragonians etc.
Zos said at the time that it was only a minor change, and there will be an overhaul (will full Class rebalance) early on next year, they are release race change as an option at the same time to.
I dare not reveal just how excited this made me.
Aw, Junkogen. XOXO, keep on fighting the good fight for your Argonian brethren.
Amen!
I'll just shamelessly hijack the thread and link my own0 -
zornyan✭✭✭✭✭There are large changes happening next year, early on.
Many people were unhappy about some of the small changes made recently, about aragonians etc.
Zos said at the time that it was only a minor change, and there will be an overhaul (will full Class rebalance) early on next year, they are release race change as an option at the same time to.
Source?
It was mentioned alot by Gina and rich during the IC PTS update, got talked about on one of the following live streams, and in a recent thread about the barbershop it's coming along side race change.
But they don't want to offer race change until passives have been reworked as intended.
What does "reworked as intended" mean? Argonian passives will still be crap, but at least they'll be as crappy as intended?
No I think they mean that some passives aren't in line with classes, like mentioned before aragonians should be stronger healers, and some other passives seem a bit lost in time, for instance breton 3% cost reduction as opposed to 10% regens etc etc
But they said they realised some passives are lack luster, and a clear showing that there are a few favorable classes as they trump others.0 -
hrothbern✭✭✭✭✭
✭.There are large changes happening next year, early on.
Many people were unhappy about some of the small changes made recently, about aragonians etc.
Zos said at the time that it was only a minor change, and there will be an overhaul (will full Class rebalance) early on next year, they are release race change as an option at the same time to.
Source?
It was mentioned alot by Gina and rich during the IC PTS update, got talked about on one of the following live streams, and in a recent thread about the barbershop it's coming along side race change.
But they don't want to offer race change until passives have been reworked as intended.
What does "reworked as intended" mean? Argonian passives will still be crap, but at least they'll be as crappy as intended?
You can always change race and take an Argonian as pet "I still do not understand why I followed the advice of Captain Rana to bring the villagers of Bleakrock into safety. We should have fought for our village and not have backed down, with our tail between our legs. Now my home village is in shambles, the houses burning, the invaders feasting.I swear every day to Shor that after Molag Bal has been defeated, I will hunt down the invaders and restore peace in Bleakrock and drink my mead with my friends at the market place".PC-EU0 -
Junkogen✭✭✭✭✭There are large changes happening next year, early on.
Many people were unhappy about some of the small changes made recently, about aragonians etc.
Zos said at the time that it was only a minor change, and there will be an overhaul (will full Class rebalance) early on next year, they are release race change as an option at the same time to.
Source?
It was mentioned alot by Gina and rich during the IC PTS update, got talked about on one of the following live streams, and in a recent thread about the barbershop it's coming along side race change.
But they don't want to offer race change until passives have been reworked as intended.
What does "reworked as intended" mean? Argonian passives will still be crap, but at least they'll be as crappy as intended?
No I think they mean that some passives aren't in line with classes, like mentioned before aragonians should be stronger healers, and some other passives seem a bit lost in time, for instance breton 3% cost reduction as opposed to 10% regens etc etc
But they said they realised some passives are lack luster, and a clear showing that there are a few favorable classes as they trump others.
I disagree that Argonians should be stronger healers. They're traditionally described as sneaky guerrilla warriors. They really should have a combination of the Khajiit and Bosmer passives, but that won't happen. Instead, it would be nice to see them as magicka-based assassins. There really aren't any magicka assassins and Argonians have such crappy passives that a change like that would be roundly welcomed.
I would be bummed if Argonians wer made into the "Templar race". What a deviation from the lore that would be. The only reason they got stuck with the resto staff is because someone had to have it. Personally, I think the Bretons should be the Templar race. It suits them more.1 -
Artjuh90✭✭✭✭✭
✭same with imperials only reason they are stronger then average is to sell more imperial edition but lore states they aren't the strongest warriors but a race with high charisma and skill in trading what makes them succesful1 -
hrothbern✭✭✭✭✭
✭same with imperials only reason they are stronger then average is to sell more imperial edition but lore states they aren't the strongest warriors but a race with high charisma and skill in trading what makes them succesful
Original the special feature of Imperial was that he could be in all three Alliances, unlike the 9 normal races
(unless of course you bought the first edition of ESO where every race could play in every Alliance)"I still do not understand why I followed the advice of Captain Rana to bring the villagers of Bleakrock into safety. We should have fought for our village and not have backed down, with our tail between our legs. Now my home village is in shambles, the houses burning, the invaders feasting.I swear every day to Shor that after Molag Bal has been defeated, I will hunt down the invaders and restore peace in Bleakrock and drink my mead with my friends at the market place".PC-EU0 -
Artjuh90✭✭✭✭✭
✭you can still do that with the adventurer pack only if you preordered the game that was free0 -
zornyan✭✭✭✭✭There are large changes happening next year, early on.
Many people were unhappy about some of the small changes made recently, about aragonians etc.
Zos said at the time that it was only a minor change, and there will be an overhaul (will full Class rebalance) early on next year, they are release race change as an option at the same time to.
Source?
It was mentioned alot by Gina and rich during the IC PTS update, got talked about on one of the following live streams, and in a recent thread about the barbershop it's coming along side race change.
But they don't want to offer race change until passives have been reworked as intended.
What does "reworked as intended" mean? Argonian passives will still be crap, but at least they'll be as crappy as intended?
No I think they mean that some passives aren't in line with classes, like mentioned before aragonians should be stronger healers, and some other passives seem a bit lost in time, for instance breton 3% cost reduction as opposed to 10% regens etc etc
But they said they realised some passives are lack luster, and a clear showing that there are a few favorable classes as they trump others.
I disagree that Argonians should be stronger healers. They're traditionally described as sneaky guerrilla warriors. They really should have a combination of the Khajiit and Bosmer passives, but that won't happen. Instead, it would be nice to see them as magicka-based assassins. There really aren't any magicka assassins and Argonians have such crappy passives that a change like that would be roundly welcomed.
I would be bummed if Argonians wer made into the "Templar race". What a deviation from the lore that would be. The only reason they got stuck with the resto staff is because someone had to have it. Personally, I think the Bretons should be the Templar race. It suits them more.
Actually lore wise they are powerful healers, and magicians thanks to their connection to the hist. Only those born under the shadow star become shadowscales aka assassins etc.
Typically they are potent healers and alchemists.0 -
Junkogen✭✭✭✭✭There are large changes happening next year, early on.
Many people were unhappy about some of the small changes made recently, about aragonians etc.
Zos said at the time that it was only a minor change, and there will be an overhaul (will full Class rebalance) early on next year, they are release race change as an option at the same time to.
Source?
It was mentioned alot by Gina and rich during the IC PTS update, got talked about on one of the following live streams, and in a recent thread about the barbershop it's coming along side race change.
But they don't want to offer race change until passives have been reworked as intended.
What does "reworked as intended" mean? Argonian passives will still be crap, but at least they'll be as crappy as intended?
No I think they mean that some passives aren't in line with classes, like mentioned before aragonians should be stronger healers, and some other passives seem a bit lost in time, for instance breton 3% cost reduction as opposed to 10% regens etc etc
But they said they realised some passives are lack luster, and a clear showing that there are a few favorable classes as they trump others.
I disagree that Argonians should be stronger healers. They're traditionally described as sneaky guerrilla warriors. They really should have a combination of the Khajiit and Bosmer passives, but that won't happen. Instead, it would be nice to see them as magicka-based assassins. There really aren't any magicka assassins and Argonians have such crappy passives that a change like that would be roundly welcomed.
I would be bummed if Argonians wer made into the "Templar race". What a deviation from the lore that would be. The only reason they got stuck with the resto staff is because someone had to have it. Personally, I think the Bretons should be the Templar race. It suits them more.
Actually lore wise they are powerful healers, and magicians thanks to their connection to the hist. Only those born under the shadow star become shadowscales aka assassins etc.
Typically they are potent healers and alchemists.
Read any description of them. It says guerrilla warriors and sneak thieves. This game portrays them as healers, but that's not how they've traditionally been portrayed.0 -
hrothbern✭✭✭✭✭
✭.There are large changes happening next year, early on.
Many people were unhappy about some of the small changes made recently, about aragonians etc.
Zos said at the time that it was only a minor change, and there will be an overhaul (will full Class rebalance) early on next year, they are release race change as an option at the same time to.
Source?
It was mentioned alot by Gina and rich during the IC PTS update, got talked about on one of the following live streams, and in a recent thread about the barbershop it's coming along side race change.
But they don't want to offer race change until passives have been reworked as intended.
What does "reworked as intended" mean? Argonian passives will still be crap, but at least they'll be as crappy as intended?
No I think they mean that some passives aren't in line with classes, like mentioned before aragonians should be stronger healers, and some other passives seem a bit lost in time, for instance breton 3% cost reduction as opposed to 10% regens etc etc
But they said they realised some passives are lack luster, and a clear showing that there are a few favorable classes as they trump others.
I disagree that Argonians should be stronger healers. They're traditionally described as sneaky guerrilla warriors. They really should have a combination of the Khajiit and Bosmer passives, but that won't happen. Instead, it would be nice to see them as magicka-based assassins. There really aren't any magicka assassins and Argonians have such crappy passives that a change like that would be roundly welcomed.
I would be bummed if Argonians wer made into the "Templar race". What a deviation from the lore that would be. The only reason they got stuck with the resto staff is because someone had to have it. Personally, I think the Bretons should be the Templar race. It suits them more.
Actually lore wise they are powerful healers, and magicians thanks to their connection to the hist. Only those born under the shadow star become shadowscales aka assassins etc.
Typically they are potent healers and alchemists.
and also a peacefull people
Because the High Elfs drove them away from fertile ground they sought refuge in the swamps
And when the High Elfs could not let go and even attacked the Argonians in the swamps, the Argonians developed a guerilla warfare. Who wouldn't?
The reputation of Argonians of being savages, warriors, fighting unfair as guerillas is prejudice and political propaganda of the High Elfs!"I still do not understand why I followed the advice of Captain Rana to bring the villagers of Bleakrock into safety. We should have fought for our village and not have backed down, with our tail between our legs. Now my home village is in shambles, the houses burning, the invaders feasting.I swear every day to Shor that after Molag Bal has been defeated, I will hunt down the invaders and restore peace in Bleakrock and drink my mead with my friends at the market place".PC-EU0 -
Junkogen✭✭✭✭✭"Argonians or Saxhleel are an oviparous race of reptilian people native to the large and marshy province known as Black Marsh, a region of Tamriel. They can be found in smaller numbers throughout the continent, and have been featured in every one of the main games so far. Argonians are one of the few races completely unrelated to men and mer, being descended directly from the Hist. Enigmatic and intelligent, the Argonians are experts of guerrilla tactics, and their natural abilities suit their swampy homeland. They have developed immunities to diseases that have plagued many would-be explorers in the region, and they are capable of easily exploring underwater locations due to their ability to breathe water. Argonians make proficient thieves, due to their superb lockpicking and sneaking skills. They are also very capable warriors and archers due to their constant use of guerrilla warfare against Warring Tribes or Dunmer slavers."
Nothing about healing or alchemy in there. ESO messed them up really bad. It's really a shame. They redefined them and made them the worst racial choice in the game.Edited by Junkogen on November 19, 2015 3:30PM0 -
AngryNord✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭There are large changes happening next year, early on.
Many people were unhappy about some of the small changes made recently, about aragonians etc.
Zos said at the time that it was only a minor change, and there will be an overhaul (will full Class rebalance) early on next year, they are release race change as an option at the same time to.
Source?
It was mentioned alot by Gina and rich during the IC PTS update, got talked about on one of the following live streams, and in a recent thread about the barbershop it's coming along side race change.
But they don't want to offer race change until passives have been reworked as intended.
What does "reworked as intended" mean? Argonian passives will still be crap, but at least they'll be as crappy as intended?
No I think they mean that some passives aren't in line with classes, like mentioned before aragonians should be stronger healers, and some other passives seem a bit lost in time, for instance breton 3% cost reduction as opposed to 10% regens etc etc
But they said they realised some passives are lack luster, and a clear showing that there are a few favorable classes as they trump others.
I disagree that Argonians should be stronger healers. They're traditionally described as sneaky guerrilla warriors. They really should have a combination of the Khajiit and Bosmer passives, but that won't happen. Instead, it would be nice to see them as magicka-based assassins. There really aren't any magicka assassins and Argonians have such crappy passives that a change like that would be roundly welcomed.
I would be bummed if Argonians wer made into the "Templar race". What a deviation from the lore that would be. The only reason they got stuck with the resto staff is because someone had to have it. Personally, I think the Bretons should be the Templar race. It suits them more.
Personally, I'd say they should
1 - remove dual-wield as a weapon style, make it part of the one-handed weapons skill instead.
2 - replace it with a spear skill
3 - give the Bretons the Argonians' resto staff skill, the Altmer the Bretons' light armour skill, and the Dunmer the Altmer's destro staff skill
4 - finally give the Argonians the spear skill (instead of resto staff)0 -
SantieClaws✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Santie wonders if each race should have a non combat racial passive maybe?
Something to boost blacksmithing for the Orcs, alchemy for the Bretons and maybe a nice fishing passive of some kind for us Khajiit yes?
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dsalter✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭There are large changes happening next year, early on.
Many people were unhappy about some of the small changes made recently, about aragonians etc.
Zos said at the time that it was only a minor change, and there will be an overhaul (will full Class rebalance) early on next year, they are release race change as an option at the same time to.
Source?
It was mentioned alot by Gina and rich during the IC PTS update, got talked about on one of the following live streams, and in a recent thread about the barbershop it's coming along side race change.
But they don't want to offer race change until passives have been reworked as intended.
What does "reworked as intended" mean? Argonian passives will still be crap, but at least they'll be as crappy as intended?
No I think they mean that some passives aren't in line with classes, like mentioned before aragonians should be stronger healers, and some other passives seem a bit lost in time, for instance breton 3% cost reduction as opposed to 10% regens etc etc
But they said they realised some passives are lack luster, and a clear showing that there are a few favorable classes as they trump others.
I disagree that Argonians should be stronger healers. They're traditionally described as sneaky guerrilla warriors. They really should have a combination of the Khajiit and Bosmer passives, but that won't happen. Instead, it would be nice to see them as magicka-based assassins. There really aren't any magicka assassins and Argonians have such crappy passives that a change like that would be roundly welcomed.
I would be bummed if Argonians wer made into the "Templar race". What a deviation from the lore that would be. The only reason they got stuck with the resto staff is because someone had to have it. Personally, I think the Bretons should be the Templar race. It suits them more.
Argonians were also known for their natural magic, so a combination of healing and sneaky stamina stuff sounds right as morrowinds stat stats showPLEASE REPLY TO ME WITH @dsalter otherwise i'm likely to miss the reply if its not my own thread
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tinythinker✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Did somebody mention revising racial passives, as in, maybe overhauling the system?
And now that a certain ZOS employee has an active forum account, you can say "Like a good dev lead, @Wrobel is there..."
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SemiD4rkness✭✭✭✭✭They buffed bosmers and altmers passives last time so even if they do tweak anything in that regard it's going to be something stupidly bad and something that no one asked for.
R.I.P deformed mudcrabs aka Argonians
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SemiD4rkness✭✭✭✭✭There are large changes happening next year, early on.
Many people were unhappy about some of the small changes made recently, about aragonians etc.
Zos said at the time that it was only a minor change, and there will be an overhaul (will full Class rebalance) early on next year, they are release race change as an option at the same time to.
Source?
It was mentioned alot by Gina and rich during the IC PTS update, got talked about on one of the following live streams, and in a recent thread about the barbershop it's coming along side race change.
But they don't want to offer race change until passives have been reworked as intended.
What does "reworked as intended" mean? Argonian passives will still be crap, but at least they'll be as crappy as intended?
No I think they mean that some passives aren't in line with classes, like mentioned before aragonians should be stronger healers, and some other passives seem a bit lost in time, for instance breton 3% cost reduction as opposed to 10% regens etc etc
But they said they realised some passives are lack luster, and a clear showing that there are a few favorable classes as they trump others.
I disagree that Argonians should be stronger healers. They're traditionally described as sneaky guerrilla warriors. They really should have a combination of the Khajiit and Bosmer passives, but that won't happen. Instead, it would be nice to see them as magicka-based assassins. There really aren't any magicka assassins and Argonians have such crappy passives that a change like that would be roundly welcomed.
I would be bummed if Argonians wer made into the "Templar race". What a deviation from the lore that would be. The only reason they got stuck with the resto staff is because someone had to have it. Personally, I think the Bretons should be the Templar race. It suits them more.
Personally, I'd say they should
1 - remove dual-wield as a weapon style, make it part of the one-handed weapons skill instead.
2 - replace it with a spear skill
3 - give the Bretons the Argonians' resto staff skill, the Altmer the Bretons' light armour skill, and the Dunmer the Altmer's destro staff skill
4 - finally give the Argonians the spear skill (instead of resto staff)
Are you out of your mind? Why not add spears and keep dw as it is.1
