Best Magicka DPS Set?

Ariisen

I'm planning on farming mats\dungeons as soon as Orsium Drops on console and we'll have nodes\increased drop rates and finally gear myself with legendary VR16

I'd like to hear you guys about this:

IC gave us Overwhelming, Orsinium gave Magicka users their Hunding Rage (Julianos) and we can craft Kagrenac's, but what's actually the "best" one for a endgame PVE DPSer and why?

Scyantific

Law Of Julianos

Sorcs should go with 5x Julianos 2x Molag Kena 1x Maelstrom Staff 3x Willpower

Kwivur

^^^^

DannyLV702

I really love the look of martial knowledge as well, it sucks that I will be upgrading to Julianos when the dlc drops on ps4

Xeven

Scyantific wrote: »

Sorcs should go with 5x Julianos 2x Molag Kena 1x Maelstrom Staff 3x Willpower

This build has the sustain of a premature ejaculator. It's an absolutely terrible and extremely naive build.

Levo18

Overwhelming Surge

As a Dual wield sorc im going to use 5x julianos 4x magnus 3x willpower. I think overwhelming would be better for damage but i dont like grinding

Morozov

Kagrenac's Hope

I choose Kag's because I PVP. the quick rez is nice in a keep-take if you are fighting hard to get it and need all hands on deck. With orsinium and not being able to rez from stealth is fine by me...hard to rez from stealth in a keep and not be seen anyways

Hiero_Glyph

Twice-Born Star is worth a mention too.

For pure damage I think the highest possile is 5x Julianos (5 armor), 3x Elemental Succession (2 jewelry, 1 armor), 3x Willpower (2 weapons, 1 jewelry), and 1x Molag Kena. Willpower needs to be on the weapons so you can upgrade them to gold. Sustain is pretty bad with this setup though so substituting Kagrenacs is still really good while only losing minimal spell damage.

EDIT: 2x Molag Kena is just for theorycrafters as it has no practical usage other than Energy Overload bursting. Also, I'm pretty sure the Maelstrom Destro is a DPS loss despite offering higher spell damage once DW passives and an additional set item are factored in. Light weaving will probably help a ton for longer fights though where sustain becomes an issue. For Maelstrom Arena the Maelstrom Destro may offer the top DPS due to light weaving and sustaining for really long fights with very little downtime.

Asayre

@Hiero_Glyph, what would you suggest to replace a Maelstrom Staff? Dual wielding willpower swords and casting Spider Silk?

Hiero_Glyph

Asayre wrote: »

@Hiero_Glyph, what would you suggest to replace a Maelstrom Staff? Dual wielding willpower swords and casting Spider Silk?

Yeah, that seems to be the idea. There is still a ton of math involved that I'm not sure of yet. Things like does not having nirnhoned make a difference compared to having gold Willpower swords, or is 7 divines with Thief the best way to go with Julianos or Kagrenacs, etc. In the end this is all theory anyway and personal playing style is what really makes or breaks these builds.

Shadesofkin

Other

2x Born Star is where it's at.

Julianos is for specific builds and functions better for sorcs.

MrDerrikk

Law Of Julianos

Mainly because it's crafted, and built for burst in that you have almost 0 magic regen while using it.

Springt-Über-Zwerge

Other

Twiceborn star

Reeko

Law Of Julianos

I plan on trying 5 julio and 2 molag. Divines on all peices with atro stone to help with sustain. As a NB i have siphon attacks to help with sustain as well. 3 willpower jewerly, 2 torugs sword and maelstrom destro

Reeko

Law Of Julianos

Also what about scathing mage?

Cîanai

Law Of Julianos

Xeven wrote: »

Scyantific wrote: »

Sorcs should go with 5x Julianos 2x Molag Kena 1x Maelstrom Staff 3x Willpower

This build has the sustain of a premature ejaculator. It's an absolutely terrible and extremely naive build.

I am running this build in vMSA and have no sustain problems.

Cîanai

Law Of Julianos

Hiero_Glyph wrote: »

Twice-Born Star is worth a mention too.

For pure damage I think the highest possile is 5x Julianos (5 armor), 3x Elemental Succession (2 jewelry, 1 armor), 3x Willpower (2 weapons, 1 jewelry), and 1x Molag Kena. Willpower needs to be on the weapons so you can upgrade them to gold. Sustain is pretty bad with this setup though so substituting Kagrenacs is still really good while only losing minimal spell damage.

EDIT: 2x Molag Kena is just for theorycrafters as it has no practical usage other than Energy Overload bursting. Also, I'm pretty sure the Maelstrom Destro is a DPS loss despite offering higher spell damage once DW passives and an additional set item are factored in. Light weaving will probably help a ton for longer fights though where sustain becomes an issue. For Maelstrom Arena the Maelstrom Destro may offer the top DPS due to light weaving and sustaining for really long fights with very little downtime.

No, 5 x Julianos (or TBS, but Julianos is way better in MSA), 3 x WP, 2 x Kena, a Maelstrom Staff and 2 Torug Swords (or to staves, depends on your class) is the best gear for highest dps.

willymchilybily

Martial Knowledge looks better BTW

my understanding was Julianos gives the same (a fraction more) spell damage on its on its 5th trait than overwhelming surge does on its first few. So its 5 piece set is like a 4 pieces of overwhelming surge with 1200(5.6%) -1380?(6.4%) spell crit chance.

So its not all that, imo. to me Its a waste if anything you can trade that extra crit chance for some sustain.

Dont get me wrong it is good. The main benefit other than that extra crit is the ability to chose your own traits. Eg if you went divines + apprentice mundus you just made a set equivalent to scathing mage without needing to farm the daedric shackles or rely on proc chance. so it is a great set. but i think the voting is due to it being new and shiny.

If i could get some v16 martial knowledge id take it over the other options any day.

mr_wazzabi

Law Of Julianos

What about 5x julianos, 4 overwheming surge, 3x willpower?

Hiero_Glyph

Cîanai wrote: »

Hiero_Glyph wrote: »

Twice-Born Star is worth a mention too.

For pure damage I think the highest possile is 5x Julianos (5 armor), 3x Elemental Succession (2 jewelry, 1 armor), 3x Willpower (2 weapons, 1 jewelry), and 1x Molag Kena. Willpower needs to be on the weapons so you can upgrade them to gold. Sustain is pretty bad with this setup though so substituting Kagrenacs is still really good while only losing minimal spell damage.

EDIT: 2x Molag Kena is just for theorycrafters as it has no practical usage other than Energy Overload bursting. Also, I'm pretty sure the Maelstrom Destro is a DPS loss despite offering higher spell damage once DW passives and an additional set item are factored in. Light weaving will probably help a ton for longer fights though where sustain becomes an issue. For Maelstrom Arena the Maelstrom Destro may offer the top DPS due to light weaving and sustaining for really long fights with very little downtime.

No, 5 x Julianos (or TBS, but Julianos is way better in MSA), 3 x WP, 2 x Kena, a Maelstrom Staff and 2 Torug Swords (or to staves, depends on your class) is the best gear for highest dps.

2x Kena is not practical. Also, spell damage does not strictly equate to best DPS. In vMSA you need to sustain for each round and can only recover for ~10s between rounds so while your burst DPS will be higher you sustained DPS suffers. I mean in what situation is 2x Molag Kena top DPS?

Also, the Maelstrom Staff offers higher spell damage and the ability to light/heavy weave but you only get ~75 additional spell damage over DW and you do not get the passive damage bonus. Agility has 50% higher set bonuses and since neither offers nirnhoned I actually think Agility DW has higher total damage. Light/heavy weaving may offset this which is why I noted it previously.

I am curious though, why even mention 2x Torugs Pact if Maelstrom Staff has higher damage output? You won't run two DPS bars. If anything you would use a Resto, 1H/S or a crit DW setup for heals (if Templar).

Cîanai

Law Of Julianos

Hiero_Glyph wrote: »

Cîanai wrote: »

Hiero_Glyph wrote: »

Twice-Born Star is worth a mention too.

For pure damage I think the highest possile is 5x Julianos (5 armor), 3x Elemental Succession (2 jewelry, 1 armor), 3x Willpower (2 weapons, 1 jewelry), and 1x Molag Kena. Willpower needs to be on the weapons so you can upgrade them to gold. Sustain is pretty bad with this setup though so substituting Kagrenacs is still really good while only losing minimal spell damage.

EDIT: 2x Molag Kena is just for theorycrafters as it has no practical usage other than Energy Overload bursting. Also, I'm pretty sure the Maelstrom Destro is a DPS loss despite offering higher spell damage once DW passives and an additional set item are factored in. Light weaving will probably help a ton for longer fights though where sustain becomes an issue. For Maelstrom Arena the Maelstrom Destro may offer the top DPS due to light weaving and sustaining for really long fights with very little downtime.

No, 5 x Julianos (or TBS, but Julianos is way better in MSA), 3 x WP, 2 x Kena, a Maelstrom Staff and 2 Torug Swords (or to staves, depends on your class) is the best gear for highest dps.

2x Kena is not practical. Also, spell damage does not strictly equate to best DPS. In vMSA you need to sustain for each round and can only recover for ~10s between rounds so while your burst DPS will be higher you sustained DPS suffers. I mean in what situation is 2x Molag Kena top DPS?

Also, the Maelstrom Staff offers higher spell damage and the ability to light/heavy weave but you only get ~75 additional spell damage over DW and you do not get the passive damage bonus. Agility has 50% higher set bonuses and since neither offers nirnhoned I actually think Agility DW has higher total damage. Light/heavy weaving may offset this which is why I noted it previously.

I am curious though, why even mention 2x Torugs Pact if Maelstrom Staff has high damage output? You won't run two DPS bars. If anything you would use a Resto, 1H/S or crit DW setup for heals (if Templar).

I am Rank 3 with my Sorc on MSA and Rank 2 with my DK. All Trials world first. So please do not tell me that my set up isn't practial. I activate Kena the whole time and I don't have any sustain issue. For Solocontent you have to take a look on elemental Drain, it's very useful (debuff + magicka regen).

Hiero_Glyph

Cîanai wrote: »

Hiero_Glyph wrote: »

Cîanai wrote: »

Hiero_Glyph wrote: »

Twice-Born Star is worth a mention too.

For pure damage I think the highest possile is 5x Julianos (5 armor), 3x Elemental Succession (2 jewelry, 1 armor), 3x Willpower (2 weapons, 1 jewelry), and 1x Molag Kena. Willpower needs to be on the weapons so you can upgrade them to gold. Sustain is pretty bad with this setup though so substituting Kagrenacs is still really good while only losing minimal spell damage.

EDIT: 2x Molag Kena is just for theorycrafters as it has no practical usage other than Energy Overload bursting. Also, I'm pretty sure the Maelstrom Destro is a DPS loss despite offering higher spell damage once DW passives and an additional set item are factored in. Light weaving will probably help a ton for longer fights though where sustain becomes an issue. For Maelstrom Arena the Maelstrom Destro may offer the top DPS due to light weaving and sustaining for really long fights with very little downtime.

No, 5 x Julianos (or TBS, but Julianos is way better in MSA), 3 x WP, 2 x Kena, a Maelstrom Staff and 2 Torug Swords (or to staves, depends on your class) is the best gear for highest dps.

2x Kena is not practical. Also, spell damage does not strictly equate to best DPS. In vMSA you need to sustain for each round and can only recover for ~10s between rounds so while your burst DPS will be higher you sustained DPS suffers. I mean in what situation is 2x Molag Kena top DPS?

Also, the Maelstrom Staff offers higher spell damage and the ability to light/heavy weave but you only get ~75 additional spell damage over DW and you do not get the passive damage bonus. Agility has 50% higher set bonuses and since neither offers nirnhoned I actually think Agility DW has higher total damage. Light/heavy weaving may offset this which is why I noted it previously.

I am curious though, why even mention 2x Torugs Pact if Maelstrom Staff has high damage output? You won't run two DPS bars. If anything you would use a Resto, 1H/S or crit DW setup for heals (if Templar).

I am Rank 3 with my Sorc on MSA and Rank 2 with my DK. All Trials world first. So please do not tell me that my set up isn't practial. I activate Kena the whole time and I don't have any sustain issue. For Solocontent you have to take a look on elemental Drain, it's very useful (debuff + magicka regen).

Sounds amazing. Do you have any videos of the different encounters? I'm curious what skill rotation you are using to keep your sustain so high.

Have you tried 2x Kena in Cyrodiil yet? From my limited testing the drain was too high to warrant using there which is why I said it wasn't practical. Glad to know it works so well in PvE though.

Cîanai

Law Of Julianos

Hiero_Glyph wrote: »

Cîanai wrote: »

Hiero_Glyph wrote: »

Cîanai wrote: »

Hiero_Glyph wrote: »

Twice-Born Star is worth a mention too.

For pure damage I think the highest possile is 5x Julianos (5 armor), 3x Elemental Succession (2 jewelry, 1 armor), 3x Willpower (2 weapons, 1 jewelry), and 1x Molag Kena. Willpower needs to be on the weapons so you can upgrade them to gold. Sustain is pretty bad with this setup though so substituting Kagrenacs is still really good while only losing minimal spell damage.

EDIT: 2x Molag Kena is just for theorycrafters as it has no practical usage other than Energy Overload bursting. Also, I'm pretty sure the Maelstrom Destro is a DPS loss despite offering higher spell damage once DW passives and an additional set item are factored in. Light weaving will probably help a ton for longer fights though where sustain becomes an issue. For Maelstrom Arena the Maelstrom Destro may offer the top DPS due to light weaving and sustaining for really long fights with very little downtime.

No, 5 x Julianos (or TBS, but Julianos is way better in MSA), 3 x WP, 2 x Kena, a Maelstrom Staff and 2 Torug Swords (or to staves, depends on your class) is the best gear for highest dps.

2x Kena is not practical. Also, spell damage does not strictly equate to best DPS. In vMSA you need to sustain for each round and can only recover for ~10s between rounds so while your burst DPS will be higher you sustained DPS suffers. I mean in what situation is 2x Molag Kena top DPS?

Also, the Maelstrom Staff offers higher spell damage and the ability to light/heavy weave but you only get ~75 additional spell damage over DW and you do not get the passive damage bonus. Agility has 50% higher set bonuses and since neither offers nirnhoned I actually think Agility DW has higher total damage. Light/heavy weaving may offset this which is why I noted it previously.

I am curious though, why even mention 2x Torugs Pact if Maelstrom Staff has high damage output? You won't run two DPS bars. If anything you would use a Resto, 1H/S or crit DW setup for heals (if Templar).

I am Rank 3 with my Sorc on MSA and Rank 2 with my DK. All Trials world first. So please do not tell me that my set up isn't practial. I activate Kena the whole time and I don't have any sustain issue. For Solocontent you have to take a look on elemental Drain, it's very useful (debuff + magicka regen).

Sounds amazing. Do you have any videos of the different encounters? I'm curious what skill rotation you are using to keep your sustain so high.

Have you tried 2x Kena in Cyrodiil yet? From my limited testing the drain was too high to warrant using there which is why I said it wasn't practical. Glad to know it works so well in PvE though.

I didn't make videos so far, but I can explain it in pm

Daveheart

Hiero_Glyph wrote: »

Cîanai wrote: »

Hiero_Glyph wrote: »

Cîanai wrote: »

Hiero_Glyph wrote: »

Twice-Born Star is worth a mention too.

For pure damage I think the highest possile is 5x Julianos (5 armor), 3x Elemental Succession (2 jewelry, 1 armor), 3x Willpower (2 weapons, 1 jewelry), and 1x Molag Kena. Willpower needs to be on the weapons so you can upgrade them to gold. Sustain is pretty bad with this setup though so substituting Kagrenacs is still really good while only losing minimal spell damage.

EDIT: 2x Molag Kena is just for theorycrafters as it has no practical usage other than Energy Overload bursting. Also, I'm pretty sure the Maelstrom Destro is a DPS loss despite offering higher spell damage once DW passives and an additional set item are factored in. Light weaving will probably help a ton for longer fights though where sustain becomes an issue. For Maelstrom Arena the Maelstrom Destro may offer the top DPS due to light weaving and sustaining for really long fights with very little downtime.

No, 5 x Julianos (or TBS, but Julianos is way better in MSA), 3 x WP, 2 x Kena, a Maelstrom Staff and 2 Torug Swords (or to staves, depends on your class) is the best gear for highest dps.

2x Kena is not practical. Also, spell damage does not strictly equate to best DPS. In vMSA you need to sustain for each round and can only recover for ~10s between rounds so while your burst DPS will be higher you sustained DPS suffers. I mean in what situation is 2x Molag Kena top DPS?

Also, the Maelstrom Staff offers higher spell damage and the ability to light/heavy weave but you only get ~75 additional spell damage over DW and you do not get the passive damage bonus. Agility has 50% higher set bonuses and since neither offers nirnhoned I actually think Agility DW has higher total damage. Light/heavy weaving may offset this which is why I noted it previously.

I am curious though, why even mention 2x Torugs Pact if Maelstrom Staff has high damage output? You won't run two DPS bars. If anything you would use a Resto, 1H/S or crit DW setup for heals (if Templar).

I am Rank 3 with my Sorc on MSA and Rank 2 with my DK. All Trials world first. So please do not tell me that my set up isn't practial. I activate Kena the whole time and I don't have any sustain issue. For Solocontent you have to take a look on elemental Drain, it's very useful (debuff + magicka regen).

Sounds amazing. Do you have any videos of the different encounters? I'm curious what skill rotation you are using to keep your sustain so high.

Have you tried 2x Kena in Cyrodiil yet? From my limited testing the drain was too high to warrant using there which is why I said it wasn't practical. Glad to know it works so well in PvE though.

I only really tested during last patch in Cyrodiil, but my problem there with the Kena proc was that it was increasing all costs. So blocking, break free, roll dodge, ultimates, and more all suffered from the increased cost. As a caster build, I could deal with the costs, especially while trying to do burst, but when you need stam to survive, it can be bad news.

Colosso-monstro

Other

Cîanai wrote: »

Hiero_Glyph wrote: »

Cîanai wrote: »

Hiero_Glyph wrote: »

Cîanai wrote: »

Hiero_Glyph wrote: »

Twice-Born Star is worth a mention too.

For pure damage I think the highest possile is 5x Julianos (5 armor), 3x Elemental Succession (2 jewelry, 1 armor), 3x Willpower (2 weapons, 1 jewelry), and 1x Molag Kena. Willpower needs to be on the weapons so you can upgrade them to gold. Sustain is pretty bad with this setup though so substituting Kagrenacs is still really good while only losing minimal spell damage.

EDIT: 2x Molag Kena is just for theorycrafters as it has no practical usage other than Energy Overload bursting. Also, I'm pretty sure the Maelstrom Destro is a DPS loss despite offering higher spell damage once DW passives and an additional set item are factored in. Light weaving will probably help a ton for longer fights though where sustain becomes an issue. For Maelstrom Arena the Maelstrom Destro may offer the top DPS due to light weaving and sustaining for really long fights with very little downtime.

No, 5 x Julianos (or TBS, but Julianos is way better in MSA), 3 x WP, 2 x Kena, a Maelstrom Staff and 2 Torug Swords (or to staves, depends on your class) is the best gear for highest dps.

2x Kena is not practical. Also, spell damage does not strictly equate to best DPS. In vMSA you need to sustain for each round and can only recover for ~10s between rounds so while your burst DPS will be higher you sustained DPS suffers. I mean in what situation is 2x Molag Kena top DPS?

Also, the Maelstrom Staff offers higher spell damage and the ability to light/heavy weave but you only get ~75 additional spell damage over DW and you do not get the passive damage bonus. Agility has 50% higher set bonuses and since neither offers nirnhoned I actually think Agility DW has higher total damage. Light/heavy weaving may offset this which is why I noted it previously.

I am curious though, why even mention 2x Torugs Pact if Maelstrom Staff has high damage output? You won't run two DPS bars. If anything you would use a Resto, 1H/S or crit DW setup for heals (if Templar).

I am Rank 3 with my Sorc on MSA and Rank 2 with my DK. All Trials world first. So please do not tell me that my set up isn't practial. I activate Kena the whole time and I don't have any sustain issue. For Solocontent you have to take a look on elemental Drain, it's very useful (debuff + magicka regen).

Sounds amazing. Do you have any videos of the different encounters? I'm curious what skill rotation you are using to keep your sustain so high.

Have you tried 2x Kena in Cyrodiil yet? From my limited testing the drain was too high to warrant using there which is why I said it wasn't practical. Glad to know it works so well in PvE though.

I didn't make videos so far, but I can explain it in pm

Hey, shoot me a pm explaining if you don't mind. I'm a sorc

Samphaa

Law Of Julianos

Daveheart wrote: »

Hiero_Glyph wrote: »

Cîanai wrote: »

Hiero_Glyph wrote: »

Cîanai wrote: »

Hiero_Glyph wrote: »

Twice-Born Star is worth a mention too.

For pure damage I think the highest possile is 5x Julianos (5 armor), 3x Elemental Succession (2 jewelry, 1 armor), 3x Willpower (2 weapons, 1 jewelry), and 1x Molag Kena. Willpower needs to be on the weapons so you can upgrade them to gold. Sustain is pretty bad with this setup though so substituting Kagrenacs is still really good while only losing minimal spell damage.

EDIT: 2x Molag Kena is just for theorycrafters as it has no practical usage other than Energy Overload bursting. Also, I'm pretty sure the Maelstrom Destro is a DPS loss despite offering higher spell damage once DW passives and an additional set item are factored in. Light weaving will probably help a ton for longer fights though where sustain becomes an issue. For Maelstrom Arena the Maelstrom Destro may offer the top DPS due to light weaving and sustaining for really long fights with very little downtime.

No, 5 x Julianos (or TBS, but Julianos is way better in MSA), 3 x WP, 2 x Kena, a Maelstrom Staff and 2 Torug Swords (or to staves, depends on your class) is the best gear for highest dps.

2x Kena is not practical. Also, spell damage does not strictly equate to best DPS. In vMSA you need to sustain for each round and can only recover for ~10s between rounds so while your burst DPS will be higher you sustained DPS suffers. I mean in what situation is 2x Molag Kena top DPS?

Also, the Maelstrom Staff offers higher spell damage and the ability to light/heavy weave but you only get ~75 additional spell damage over DW and you do not get the passive damage bonus. Agility has 50% higher set bonuses and since neither offers nirnhoned I actually think Agility DW has higher total damage. Light/heavy weaving may offset this which is why I noted it previously.

I am curious though, why even mention 2x Torugs Pact if Maelstrom Staff has high damage output? You won't run two DPS bars. If anything you would use a Resto, 1H/S or crit DW setup for heals (if Templar).

I am Rank 3 with my Sorc on MSA and Rank 2 with my DK. All Trials world first. So please do not tell me that my set up isn't practial. I activate Kena the whole time and I don't have any sustain issue. For Solocontent you have to take a look on elemental Drain, it's very useful (debuff + magicka regen).

Sounds amazing. Do you have any videos of the different encounters? I'm curious what skill rotation you are using to keep your sustain so high.

Have you tried 2x Kena in Cyrodiil yet? From my limited testing the drain was too high to warrant using there which is why I said it wasn't practical. Glad to know it works so well in PvE though.

I only really tested during last patch in Cyrodiil, but my problem there with the Kena proc was that it was increasing all costs. So blocking, break free, roll dodge, ultimates, and more all suffered from the increased cost. As a caster build, I could deal with the costs, especially while trying to do burst, but when you need stam to survive, it can be bad news.

Does it really increase all costs? The tool tip says abilities so I assumed it was just the 5 abilities you have slotted on each bar, not ultimate, roll dodge, cc break etc...

Septimus_Magna

Law Of Julianos

Samphaa wrote: »

Daveheart wrote: »

Hiero_Glyph wrote: »

Cîanai wrote: »

Hiero_Glyph wrote: »

Cîanai wrote: »

Hiero_Glyph wrote: »

Twice-Born Star is worth a mention too.

For pure damage I think the highest possile is 5x Julianos (5 armor), 3x Elemental Succession (2 jewelry, 1 armor), 3x Willpower (2 weapons, 1 jewelry), and 1x Molag Kena. Willpower needs to be on the weapons so you can upgrade them to gold. Sustain is pretty bad with this setup though so substituting Kagrenacs is still really good while only losing minimal spell damage.

EDIT: 2x Molag Kena is just for theorycrafters as it has no practical usage other than Energy Overload bursting. Also, I'm pretty sure the Maelstrom Destro is a DPS loss despite offering higher spell damage once DW passives and an additional set item are factored in. Light weaving will probably help a ton for longer fights though where sustain becomes an issue. For Maelstrom Arena the Maelstrom Destro may offer the top DPS due to light weaving and sustaining for really long fights with very little downtime.

No, 5 x Julianos (or TBS, but Julianos is way better in MSA), 3 x WP, 2 x Kena, a Maelstrom Staff and 2 Torug Swords (or to staves, depends on your class) is the best gear for highest dps.

2x Kena is not practical. Also, spell damage does not strictly equate to best DPS. In vMSA you need to sustain for each round and can only recover for ~10s between rounds so while your burst DPS will be higher you sustained DPS suffers. I mean in what situation is 2x Molag Kena top DPS?

Also, the Maelstrom Staff offers higher spell damage and the ability to light/heavy weave but you only get ~75 additional spell damage over DW and you do not get the passive damage bonus. Agility has 50% higher set bonuses and since neither offers nirnhoned I actually think Agility DW has higher total damage. Light/heavy weaving may offset this which is why I noted it previously.

I am curious though, why even mention 2x Torugs Pact if Maelstrom Staff has high damage output? You won't run two DPS bars. If anything you would use a Resto, 1H/S or crit DW setup for heals (if Templar).

I am Rank 3 with my Sorc on MSA and Rank 2 with my DK. All Trials world first. So please do not tell me that my set up isn't practial. I activate Kena the whole time and I don't have any sustain issue. For Solocontent you have to take a look on elemental Drain, it's very useful (debuff + magicka regen).

Sounds amazing. Do you have any videos of the different encounters? I'm curious what skill rotation you are using to keep your sustain so high.

Have you tried 2x Kena in Cyrodiil yet? From my limited testing the drain was too high to warrant using there which is why I said it wasn't practical. Glad to know it works so well in PvE though.

I only really tested during last patch in Cyrodiil, but my problem there with the Kena proc was that it was increasing all costs. So blocking, break free, roll dodge, ultimates, and more all suffered from the increased cost. As a caster build, I could deal with the costs, especially while trying to do burst, but when you need stam to survive, it can be bad news.

Does it really increase all costs? The tool tip says abilities so I assumed it was just the 5 abilities you have slotted on each bar, not ultimate, roll dodge, cc break etc...

Should be fixed, it only increases cost of abilities (not dodge-roll, break-free and block)

Septimus_Magna

Law Of Julianos

This is what Im currently running with on my sorc:
5x Julianos (v16 divines)
2x Nerienths (v16 divines)
3x Willpower (arcane and spell dmg)
1-2x Torugs Pact (nirn fire staff and DW swords)

The dmg increase of Nerienths 2pc is too good to miss, it does 7.6k dmg/11.8k crit dmg and it procs on 1/3 Crushing Shocks weaves. With 64% spell crit thats and average weave dmg boost of ((7.6k x 0.36 + 11.8k x 0.64) x 1/3 = ) 3.4k for each target hit by the crystal. For single target dps thats a good dmg boost but its even better for aoe dps.

[Edit: gear setup above is strictly for PVE]

For PVP Im running with:
5x Kagrenacs
1x Molag Kena
3x Willpower (arcane with spell dmg/cost red/mag regen)
2x Torugs Pact (nirn fire staff and precise resto staff)

Khenarthi

Other

I'm not a min-maxer, as evidenced by my magicka dps character being a Khajiit Nightblade... but Twice Born Star with Thief and Shadow bonus is a set that does some nice damage and healing while buffing all stats (and I crafted it also to celebrate having finished research on all items). With Willpower on the jewellery slots, and the other 3/4 slots with Magnus, I have enough sustain to breeze through the content I enjoy. This is also flexible, since Magnus can easily be replaced with other crafted sets like Torug's Pact or Seducer, or with stuff from Undaunted gold pledges if you don't mind grinding for those.

Xvorg

Kagrenac's Hope

Daveheart wrote: »

Hiero_Glyph wrote: »

Cîanai wrote: »

Hiero_Glyph wrote: »

Cîanai wrote: »

Hiero_Glyph wrote: »

Twice-Born Star is worth a mention too.

For pure damage I think the highest possile is 5x Julianos (5 armor), 3x Elemental Succession (2 jewelry, 1 armor), 3x Willpower (2 weapons, 1 jewelry), and 1x Molag Kena. Willpower needs to be on the weapons so you can upgrade them to gold. Sustain is pretty bad with this setup though so substituting Kagrenacs is still really good while only losing minimal spell damage.

EDIT: 2x Molag Kena is just for theorycrafters as it has no practical usage other than Energy Overload bursting. Also, I'm pretty sure the Maelstrom Destro is a DPS loss despite offering higher spell damage once DW passives and an additional set item are factored in. Light weaving will probably help a ton for longer fights though where sustain becomes an issue. For Maelstrom Arena the Maelstrom Destro may offer the top DPS due to light weaving and sustaining for really long fights with very little downtime.

No, 5 x Julianos (or TBS, but Julianos is way better in MSA), 3 x WP, 2 x Kena, a Maelstrom Staff and 2 Torug Swords (or to staves, depends on your class) is the best gear for highest dps.

2x Kena is not practical. Also, spell damage does not strictly equate to best DPS. In vMSA you need to sustain for each round and can only recover for ~10s between rounds so while your burst DPS will be higher you sustained DPS suffers. I mean in what situation is 2x Molag Kena top DPS?

Also, the Maelstrom Staff offers higher spell damage and the ability to light/heavy weave but you only get ~75 additional spell damage over DW and you do not get the passive damage bonus. Agility has 50% higher set bonuses and since neither offers nirnhoned I actually think Agility DW has higher total damage. Light/heavy weaving may offset this which is why I noted it previously.

I am curious though, why even mention 2x Torugs Pact if Maelstrom Staff has high damage output? You won't run two DPS bars. If anything you would use a Resto, 1H/S or crit DW setup for heals (if Templar).

I am Rank 3 with my Sorc on MSA and Rank 2 with my DK. All Trials world first. So please do not tell me that my set up isn't practial. I activate Kena the whole time and I don't have any sustain issue. For Solocontent you have to take a look on elemental Drain, it's very useful (debuff + magicka regen).

Sounds amazing. Do you have any videos of the different encounters? I'm curious what skill rotation you are using to keep your sustain so high.

Have you tried 2x Kena in Cyrodiil yet? From my limited testing the drain was too high to warrant using there which is why I said it wasn't practical. Glad to know it works so well in PvE though.

I only really tested during last patch in Cyrodiil, but my problem there with the Kena proc was that it was increasing all costs. So blocking, break free, roll dodge, ultimates, and more all suffered from the increased cost. As a caster build, I could deal with the costs, especially while trying to do burst, but when you need stam to survive, it can be bad news.

Kena is ideal for magicka NB. Think about assasin's will, impale or funnel heath wich are cheap skills

Stannum

I'm going to try 5 Julianos +1 Kena + 2 Torug + WP bijuteria
Almost all of these are easy to get