Scyantific wrote: »Lemme guess, are you a v1 grouping with v16s?
Should not matter. Groups via group finder are battle leveled to VR15 according to how I read the patch notes, and get a "moderate" buff.Scyantific wrote: »Lemme guess, are you a v1 grouping with v16s?
no, if they use the group finder, lower lvl players get a battle buff now. But the problem is that the amount it scale does will not be enough when the member is very low lvl, like a lv 25ish scaled to v16 dungeon.Fat-Larry-Makes-All wrote: »How is that the groupfinders fault? It always scales to the group leader right, or am I missing something here...?
no, if they use the group finder, lower lvl players get a battle buff now. But the problem is that the amount it scale does will not be enough when the member is very low lvl, like a lv 25ish scaled to v16 dungeon.Fat-Larry-Makes-All wrote: »How is that the groupfinders fault? It always scales to the group leader right, or am I missing something here...?
Plus roles can be adjust anytime using gears and just changing the stats. The group finder does not take that into account, because you dont get the option to choose which role you specifically want. Only your prefered role is there in the group finder. So if there is a shortage of healer and someone volunteers to change spec to heal spec, you cant do anything about it, as the party is already set as it is and will search for only a "healer"
Scyantific wrote: »Lemme get this straight...
The group finder can grab the whole range of players (vets and non-vets) and stick them in the same group???
(Pretend I posted the J Jonah Jameson Laughing video here)
im lvl 41
myrrrorb14_ESO wrote: »I'm looking forward to trying this out. Skipped a lot of nonveteran dungeons and all the vet ones.
I do fear the PUG though...
Guess that means I will have to learn how to play in a team again.
I was very pleased with the group finder. Found a group for both pledges as a healer in under five minutes. The gold key was fast. Three v16s and one v8 tank. The normal pledge had three v16s and one level 25. He had only 10k health and got one-shot by the first trash pack. And he bailed after that. Luckily he was a dps, so I got a vet friend who needed the pledge to join us.
I'm a bit confused why the level 25 had such low health if they were battle-leveled. 10k health is not gonna cut it.
I'm also confused how to use the group finder for the normal pledge. For this time I chose "dungeon" then "darkshade caverns" and kept myself on "normal" mode. But I noticed that it will group anyone from lvl17 to v16. That's why we had a lvl25 with us at first.
Is it possible to choose "vet dungeon" then "darkshade caverns" and keep yourself on "normal" mode?? This selection would only group you with v1 to v16 people. But Would that still put you in the Normal dungeon?
Scyantific wrote: »I was very pleased with the group finder. Found a group for both pledges as a healer in under five minutes. The gold key was fast. Three v16s and one v8 tank. The normal pledge had three v16s and one level 25. He had only 10k health and got one-shot by the first trash pack. And he bailed after that. Luckily he was a dps, so I got a vet friend who needed the pledge to join us.
I'm a bit confused why the level 25 had such low health if they were battle-leveled. 10k health is not gonna cut it.
I'm also confused how to use the group finder for the normal pledge. For this time I chose "dungeon" then "darkshade caverns" and kept myself on "normal" mode. But I noticed that it will group anyone from lvl17 to v16. That's why we had a lvl25 with us at first.
Is it possible to choose "vet dungeon" then "darkshade caverns" and keep yourself on "normal" mode?? This selection would only group you with v1 to v16 people. But Would that still put you in the Normal dungeon?
It may have worked for you, but it certainly didn't work for that level 25 guy who got one-shot and bailed.
Sorry but no, just NO.
Cross Faction Grouping = WORKING
Scaling up group = WORKING
Finding Groups Quickly = WORKING
LFG Tool = AWESOME
Oh no it's too hard.....JUST STOP.
I tested it a lot yesterday on my VR7 character....got some of the harder veteran dungeons done with not much issues. It has to be either your group sucked or your build sucks...
I agree it needs to give more options for what level group you are looking for, better UI interface etc etc but honestly the scaling works really well. Not to mention you can get 4+ CP from one dungeon so the catch up mechanic works great with scaling to VR16...
Checked out builds from deltiasgaming.com for vet dungeons. That might help you.
This isn't making sense to me. I didn't see anything in the 6 pages of patch notes but very possible I missed it. Is level 45 still required to start getting the pledge quests? If so why would a character below that level be placed it what I am guessing is pledge groups? I am glad that it seems to be actually finding groups but if what is being reported I would say that warrants a hot fix as soon as possible. It is obviously going to just lead to frustration on the part of everyone if you place people with such a discrepancy between levels regardless of how much you buff their pools. A guild mate linked a VR16 Briarheart piece last night with a tremendous 5 piece proc. My response was that it showed why anything below a VR16 build will not be able to compete with it.
This isn't making sense to me. I didn't see anything in the 6 pages of patch notes but very possible I missed it. Is level 45 still required to start getting the pledge quests? If so why would a character below that level be placed it what I am guessing is pledge groups? I am glad that it seems to be actually finding groups but if what is being reported I would say that warrants a hot fix as soon as possible. It is obviously going to just lead to frustration on the part of everyone if you place people with such a discrepancy between levels regardless of how much you buff their pools. A guild mate linked a VR16 Briarheart piece last night with a tremendous 5 piece proc. My response was that it showed why anything below a VR16 build will not be able to compete with it.
You have to be level 45 before getting a pledge.
But the group dungeons are not restricted to people doing pledges, and can be done at any level. In fact when the game launched, they did not scale to group leader, they were part of the zone - so Fungal Grotto for example was for lvl 12-15 characters.
A level 15 character can do a dungeon like Fungal Grotto on normal, but the point here is that they should be placed into a group with people of similar level so that the dungeon is scaled to level 15, rather than being placed with Veteran Rank characters and be buffed, because they will not have the skills unlocked or the gear to be able to complete it when the mobs are VR whatever.