Nerf Yellow Shields!!!

hydrocynus

ok this is now getting a little out of hand! I still get no hatchets, and they wont help me out with my PingShield, but those issues pale in comparison to this next problem. Its outrageous and too much for me to continue playing this game unless it changes right now.

I play in Aldmeri Dominion, and i have been playing since Pre Release and have not been a major PVP'er but have done enough to experience the Smurf/Tomato alliance against the Aldmeri Dominion. We as Yellows always took this as a compliment; "Hahaha - look they have to team up against us - they cant beat us on their own! Hahaha!". It was easy to think that way as we are the superior faction but boy did we have big egos about it. Eventually it got irritating and many people Rage quit and never went back to PVP because it was just not fair with 2 v 1 any more. Why did they continue to double team us all the time? Those of us that were comfortable to go in 2 yellow v 5 reds and 5 blues remained in game and wiped them but still it was not apparent why.

Then this morning the answer came to me. For a year and a half i have only PVP'ed as AD, but then this morning a friend sent me a picture of Himself playing as a blue and being ganking and slaughtered by two of our other friends in a chance Cyrodiil encounter (what did he think would happen? he was playing as a stupid blue). 2 yellows vs 1 blue is really overkill and you need usually 1 yellow against 5 blues or reds cos they are a bit silly and tactic-less, but still these two yellows really worked over this blue and as he lay dead in the photo, it was clear as daylight. The yellow shields over their heads. Oh the glorious yellow shields! So bright and shiny! So VISIBLE!! ZoS might as well have stuck a candle on top of all our helmets and made us run around in a windless world, and there it was - the best target is the easiest target to see!

These Blues and Reds were targeting Yellows first because they could see our Glorious yellow flame markers. Imagine how we would own PvP if they could see us as badly as we can see the red or blue shields? We should really have our shield changed to a nice dull pastel yellow and slightly see through like theirs are, which would be much less visible.

Nerf the Yellow Shield ZoS or I and the Whole AD faction are leaving the game. We all met on the rock in Reapers and thrashed it out and decided this is the best action to take. You will be left with two really poor factions running around aimlessly sneaking and streaking into walls and wreckingblow-ing daedrats - no fun for anyone!

yes - this is not a serious thread before you get all worked up - it is just as important as the Nerf Cloak/Streak/Game too Hard threads, ie not important at all!

Conquers

leaving the game you say? GIVE ME YOUR STUFF. GIVE ME ALL THE ALDMERI STUFFS

vamp_emily

The day AD and EP quits, is the day I will stand up and say "YES!".

That is the way I want my end game to be.

AtriasNaradan

Sorry, don't throw bs here mate, we all know that yellow and red are the one always ganking on blue on most cases...how else do you explain yellow attacking blue forts when blue was fighting red while red still dominate the map. It's pretty obvious that you yellows target blue when red still dominate and blue was targeting red, because you, yellow, are on cahoot with those red bas***ds. You yellow must be red's loyal hounds, helping each other, ganking, because you know blue is too strong for you both alone...:P

PSUgrad

this OP makes no sense. In any PvP I've been in- it has ALWAYS been ketchup and mustard teaming up on DC.

BuggeX

PSUgrad wrote: »

this OP makes no sense. In any PvP I've been in- it has ALWAYS been ketchup and mustard teaming up on DC.

Im Ad, and i just see Dc and AD going vs EP lol

ARRIUS

Zyle

DC teams with EP against AD,
AD teams with EP against DC,
DC teams with AD against EP,
....when it is mutually beneficial to do so

Why is this such a surprise to people? It's a tri-faction war...and no faction has any alliance to any other faction, so expect any faction to do what is necessary to win, temporarily or not.

If my faction has emperor, I expect the other two factions to team up in a sense.

Asmael

hydrocynus wrote: »

ok this is now getting a little out of hand! I still get no hatchets, and they wont help me out with my PingShield, but those issues pale in comparison to this next problem. Its outrageous and too much for me to continue playing this game unless it changes right now.

I play in Ebonheart Pact, and i have been playing since 1.6 and have not been a major PVP'er but have done enough to experience the purple smurf/banana alliance against the Ebonheart Pact. We as reds always took this as a compliment; "Hahaha - look they have to team up against us - they cant beat us on their own! Hahaha!". It was easy to think that way as we are the superior faction but boy did we have big egos about it. Eventually it got irritating and many people Rage quit and never went back to PVP because it was just not fair with 2 v 1 any more. Why did they continue to double team us all the time? Those of us that were comfortable to go in 2 reds v 5 yellows and 5 blues remained in game and wiped them but still it was not apparent why.

Then this morning the answer came to me. For about 6 months i have only PVP'ed as EP, but then this morning a friend sent me a picture of Himself playing as a blue and being ganking and slaughtered by two of our other friends in a chance Cyrodiil encounter (what did he think would happen? he was playing as a stupid blue). 2 reds vs 1 blue is really overkill and you need usually 1 red against 5 blues or yellows cos they are a bit silly and tactic-less, but still these two reds really worked over this blue and as he lay dead in the photo, it was clear as daylight. The red shields over their heads. Oh the glorious red shields! So bright and shiny! So VISIBLE!! ZoS might as well have stuck a candle on top of all our helmets and made us run around in a windless world, and there it was - the best target is the easiest target to see!

These Blues and yellows were targeting reds first because they could see our Glorious red flame markers. Imagine how we would own PvP if they could see us as badly as we can see the yellow or blue shields? We should really have our shield changed to a nice dull pastel red and slightly see through like theirs are, which would be much less visible.

Nerf the red Shield ZoS or I and the Whole EPfaction are leaving the game. We all met on the rock in Reapers and thrashed it out and decided this is the best action to take. You will be left with two really poor factions running around aimlessly sneaking and streaking into walls and wreckingblow-ing daedrats - no fun for anyone!

#NerfRedShield

hydrocynus

Clearly you all play at 04h00 when all AD is in bed as that is the only time when yellows not dominating map.

Zyle

hydrocynus wrote: »

Clearly you all play at 04h00 when all AD is in bed as that is the only time when yellows not dominating map.

Clearly we don't have your narrow mindset.

SanTii.92

*facepalm*

hydrocynus

Asmael wrote: »

hydrocynus wrote: »

ok this is now getting a little out of hand! I still get no hatchets, and they wont help me out with my PingShield, but those issues pale in comparison to this next problem. Its outrageous and too much for me to continue playing this game unless it changes right now.

I play in Ebonheart Pact, and i have been playing since 1.6 and have not been a major PVP'er but have done enough to experience the purple smurf/banana alliance against the Ebonheart Pact. We as reds always took this as a compliment; "Hahaha - look they have to team up against us - they cant beat us on their own! Hahaha!". It was easy to think that way as we are the superior faction but boy did we have big egos about it. Eventually it got irritating and many people Rage quit and never went back to PVP because it was just not fair with 2 v 1 any more. Why did they continue to double team us all the time? Those of us that were comfortable to go in 2 reds v 5 yellows and 5 blues remained in game and wiped them but still it was not apparent why.

Then this morning the answer came to me. For about 6 months i have only PVP'ed as EP, but then this morning a friend sent me a picture of Himself playing as a blue and being ganking and slaughtered by two of our other friends in a chance Cyrodiil encounter (what did he think would happen? he was playing as a stupid blue). 2 reds vs 1 blue is really overkill and you need usually 1 red against 5 blues or yellows cos they are a bit silly and tactic-less, but still these two reds really worked over this blue and as he lay dead in the photo, it was clear as daylight. The red shields over their heads. Oh the glorious red shields! So bright and shiny! So VISIBLE!! ZoS might as well have stuck a candle on top of all our helmets and made us run around in a windless world, and there it was - the best target is the easiest target to see!

These Blues and yellows were targeting reds first because they could see our Glorious red flame markers. Imagine how we would own PvP if they could see us as badly as we can see the yellow or blue shields? We should really have our shield changed to a nice dull pastel red and slightly see through like theirs are, which would be much less visible.

Nerf the red Shield ZoS or I and the Whole EPfaction are leaving the game. We all met on the rock in Reapers and thrashed it out and decided this is the best action to take. You will be left with two really poor factions running around aimlessly sneaking and streaking into walls and wreckingblow-ing daedrats - no fun for anyone!

#NerfRedShield

Come with your red army to the rock in reapers and see what happens to you!

Galbsadi

Asmael wrote: »

hydrocynus wrote: »

ok this is now getting a little out of hand! I still get no hatchets, and they wont help me out with my PingShield, but those issues pale in comparison to this next problem. Its outrageous and too much for me to continue playing this game unless it changes right now.

I play in all three factions, and i have been playing since 1.6 and have not been a major PVP'er but have done enough to experience the two other factions alliance against the faction I was on at the time. We as players always took this as a compliment; "Hahaha - look they have to team up against us - they cant beat us on their own! Hahaha!". It was easy to think that way as we are the superior faction but boy did we have big egos about it. Eventually it got irritating and many people Rage quit and never went back to PVP because it was just not fair with 2 v 1 any more. Why did they continue to double team us all the time? Those of us that were comfortable to go in 2 reds v 5 yellows and 5 blues remained in game and wiped them but still it was not apparent why.

Then this morning the answer came to me. For about 6 months i have only PVP'ed as a player, but then this morning a friend sent me a picture of Himself playing as a another faction and being ganking and slaughtered by two of our other friends in a chance Cyrodiil encounter (what did he think would happen? he was playing as a stupid solo). 2 gankers vs 1 solo is really overkill and you need usually 1 red against 5 blues or yellows cos they are a bit silly and tactic-less, but still these two gankers really worked over this solo and as he lay dead in the photo, it was clear as daylight. The colored shields over their heads. Oh the glorious colored shields! So bright and shiny! So VISIBLE!! ZoS might as well have stuck a candle on top of all our helmets and made us run around in a windless world, and there it was - the best target is the easiest target to see!

These Colors and other colors were targeting other colors still first because they could see our Glorious colored markers. Imagine how we would own PvP if they could see us as badly as we can see the yellow or blue shields? We should really have our shield changed to a nice dull pastel red and slightly see through like theirs are, which would be much less visible.

Nerf the colored Shield ZoS or I and the Whole every faction are leaving the game. We all met on the rock in Reapers and thrashed it out and decided this is the best action to take. You will be left with two really poor factions running around aimlessly sneaking and streaking into walls and wreckingblow-ing daedrats - no fun for anyone!

#NerfColoredShield

FTFY

Asmael

Galbsadi wrote: »

Asmael wrote: »

hydrocynus wrote: »

ok this is now getting a little out of hand! I still get no hatchets, and they wont help me out with my PingShield, but those issues pale in comparison to this next problem. Its outrageous and too much for me to continue playing this game unless it changes right now.

I play in all three factions, and i have been playing since 1.6 and have not been a major PVP'er but have done enough to experience the two other factions alliance against the faction I was on at the time. We as players always took this as a compliment; "Hahaha - look they have to team up against us - they cant beat us on their own! Hahaha!". It was easy to think that way as we are the superior faction but boy did we have big egos about it. Eventually it got irritating and many people Rage quit and never went back to PVP because it was just not fair with 2 v 1 any more. Why did they continue to double team us all the time? Those of us that were comfortable to go in 2 reds v 5 yellows and 5 blues remained in game and wiped them but still it was not apparent why.

Then this morning the answer came to me. For about 6 months i have only PVP'ed as a player, but then this morning a friend sent me a picture of Himself playing as a another faction and being ganking and slaughtered by two of our other friends in a chance Cyrodiil encounter (what did he think would happen? he was playing as a stupid solo). 2 gankers vs 1 solo is really overkill and you need usually 1 red against 5 blues or yellows cos they are a bit silly and tactic-less, but still these two gankers really worked over this solo and as he lay dead in the photo, it was clear as daylight. The colored shields over their heads. Oh the glorious colored shields! So bright and shiny! So VISIBLE!! ZoS might as well have stuck a candle on top of all our helmets and made us run around in a windless world, and there it was - the best target is the easiest target to see!

These Colors and other colors were targeting other colors still first because they could see our Glorious colored markers. Imagine how we would own PvP if they could see us as badly as we can see the yellow or blue shields? We should really have our shield changed to a nice dull pastel red and slightly see through like theirs are, which would be much less visible.

Nerf the colored Shield ZoS or I and the Whole every faction are leaving the game. We all met on the rock in Reapers and thrashed it out and decided this is the best action to take. You will be left with two really poor factions running around aimlessly sneaking and streaking into walls and wreckingblow-ing daedrats - no fun for anyone!

#NerfRainbowShield

[#NerfRainbowShield]
FTFY

BAM, fixed for yaz.

eligh0716

bchulettub17_ESO wrote: »

DC teams with EP against AD,
AD teams with EP against DC,
DC teams with AD against EP,
....when it is mutually beneficial to do so

Why is this such a surprise to people? It's a tri-faction war...and no faction has any alliance to any other faction, so expect any faction to do what is necessary to win, temporarily or not.

If my faction has emperor, I expect the other two factions to team up in a sense.

This. This. This. I hate when people cry "oh the green team is after me the orange team is after me. They are both your enemies no crap!!!! Fight back with all you got. Don't complain that they are ganging up on you you should expect that. Or maybe the campaign you are in is too hard switch it up. And unfortunately in most cases, they weaker side gets preyed upon even more.

Beesting

BuggeX wrote: »

PSUgrad wrote: »

this OP makes no sense. In any PvP I've been in- it has ALWAYS been ketchup and mustard teaming up on DC.

Im Ad, and i just see Dc and AD going vs EP lol

ARRIUS

Same here, reason being on eu dc players are around 5x as good as ep players ( from my limited experience of pvp)
Go arrius for easy mode untill the blues captured all but 2 emp keeps was the way we normally used to play

But these days on the azura server ep makes this lack of individual skill up easily by rolling in coordinated zergs of 80 from bleakers to aleswell

But more on topic, the yellow markers are ugly as hell, i only realised this quite recently lol.

TheShadowScout

Personally I always wished they would do away with the alliance indicators floating over peoples heads alltogether, and just slap mandatory EP/DC/AD tabards on everyone who enters cyrodil...

dodgehopper_ESO

I never trust the other two factions, ever. Even if they're 'helping' you they're not on your side and its best to remember that. The only way they could possibly be on your side is if they're a mole, whose sole purpose is to scout out the enemy or create division with the other faction.

On the issue of AD being sneaky, lets face it AD is the only faction with the two races that have Stealthy. Those two races are born to be Nightblades, and its not AD's fault that ZoS designed it that way. This is a flawed arrangement though at the core in my view, because Argonians should also have the Stealthy trait or at least some kind of Guerrilla Warfare trait that enhances their sneakiness. I've been saying this since the beginning though. I'm fine with Daggerfall faction not having a race with stealthy because they have something else: Orcs. Orcs might not be stealthy, but they can zip about on the battlefield like no one else, which is useful for things like Scroll runs. I realize we can buy 'any race, any faction' and I was an early beta play on the first day guy with imperial edition so it never effected me, but it did effect the choices of a lot of players. You can't really fault AD for being sneaky, its ingrained in the races and the obvious class choices that come with them. I'm just going to breakdown what I think most players go for with each race.

EP:
1) Nord: Dragonknight (Fus-Roh-Dah, enough said. Its also great synchronicity with Nord tankiness.) Templar (Close 2nd)
2) Argonian: Dragon Knight (Argo traits are best for a tank) Templar (pseudo-tanky with the assumption many new players make that they can heal better than others.) Nightblade (For no other reason than it is thematic inthe series, and there was once a potion synergy with their racials and class).
3) Dunmer: Dragon Knight (More fire? Yes please, and vampire too). They can do well with others.

DC:
1) Breton: Templar (Obvious healers/knights and good synergy with racials) Sorc (Good magical traits with class theme)
2) Redguard: Anything as long as its stamina. What has been a good stamina class has changed over time.
3) Orc: Much like Redguard, anything as long as its stamina. Nowadays I think Sorc is probably the best fit of mobility and stamina damage. I've run into a lot of Orc DK though.

AD:
1) Altmer: Sorc both by theme, and by racials this class just stands out. While an Altmer can crank out just as much fire damage as a Dunmer, or very nearly so, the Sorc is also much more in theme.. DK is a good second choice purely for the bonus fire damage (Altmers get a higher magic rating 10 vs 9% and a slightly lower fire bonus when compared to dunmer).
2) Khajiit: This race favors crits and sneaking... hmmm what race relies heavily on crits and sneaking, Oh I know NIGHTBLADE. Sorc is not a bad choice now that they've created weapon based damage options for the Sorc.
3) Bosmer: Bonuses for sneaking, stamina and poison/disease resistance. Nightblade, definitely.

I'm just stating what I think most people consider when making a character. There are some great outside-of-the-box builds out there, but lets face it if you're a Bosmer Sorc, unless you quaff invisible potions all the time you'll never get the same advantage as a Bosmer Nightblade from stealthy. This is a real cost for not being a nightblade for both Khajiit/Bosmer. By the same token if you're an Altmer that doesn't make use of elemental damage, you're wasting a trait.

kevlarto_ESO

bchulettub17_ESO wrote: »

DC teams with EP against AD,
AD teams with EP against DC,
DC teams with AD against EP,
....when it is mutually beneficial to do so

Why is this such a surprise to people? It's a tri-faction war...and no faction has any alliance to any other faction, so expect any faction to do what is necessary to win, temporarily or not.

If my faction has emperor, I expect the other two factions to team up in a sense.

Yep ^^^^
That's called three faction warfare, when there is a bully on the block the other two factions in theory should push the bully off the block, but it does not always happen like that I am afraid to say, it seems like there is always some group in the lesser faction that picks on the lesser faction the next thing you know that lesser faction has the bully and the other faction on them, crazy stuff I say..LOL

Forestd16b14_ESO

Oh look at that accusing of a purple alliance yet on Chilldrend and Haderus it's a green alliance.

Seriously no one is gonna take this thread serious threads like this have been popping up a week after PC launch.

arcantonias

the amount of stupid in this thread is just mind boggling.

mamericus

The OP's entire post is testimony as to why we all hate yellows: arrogance. Hubris will continue to be your downfall.

Moonshadow66

Don't worry about yellow shields, I've heard we're supposed to be able to dye them with the Orsinium update

eligh0716

arcantonias wrote: »

the amount of stupid in this thread is just mind boggling.

That's not necessary. Keep it to yourself.

AtriasNaradan

hydrocynus wrote: »

Clearly you all play at 04h00 when all AD is in bed as that is the only time when yellows not dominating map.

Ohhh you mean the time when you turds (yes, because turds are yellow...you turds) are cowering in fear calling "momma momma please don't leave me alone, the blues are coming" under your bed sheets?

p.s. it's astounding the number of people that don't seems to even bother to click open and read the *spoiler* part on your first comment there lol

Suru

Sounds like a l2p issue or a lack of biceps, nothing to see here friends!

Rivan12

mamericus wrote: »

The OP's entire post is testimony as to why we all hate yellows: arrogance. Hubris will continue to be your downfall.

I think the OP's entire post was a fun jibe towards Red and Blue, all said with sarcastic phrasing designed to get a rise out of Red and Blue. OP got what he wanted, and the message was funny. Nerf yellow shields, lol.

MuddledMuppet

Sooo many good responces to this somewhat aged wine, but this is my favourite, an awesome idea!

TheShadowScout wrote: »

Personally I always wished they would do away with the alliance indicators floating over peoples heads alltogether, and just slap mandatory EP/DC/AD tabards on everyone who enters cyrodil...

hydrocynus

AtriasNaradan wrote: »

hydrocynus wrote: »

Clearly you all play at 04h00 when all AD is in bed as that is the only time when yellows not dominating map.

Ohhh you mean the time when you turds (yes, because turds are yellow...you turds) are cowering in fear calling "momma momma please don't leave me alone, the blues are coming" under your bed sheets?

p.s. it's astounding the number of people that don't seems to even bother to click open and read the *spoiler* part on your first comment there lol

Hehehe - thanks for pointing that out - if you havent opened the spoiler yet then please do so now.

hydrocynus

Rivan12 wrote: »

mamericus wrote: »

The OP's entire post is testimony as to why we all hate yellows: arrogance. Hubris will continue to be your downfall.

I think the OP's entire post was a fun jibe towards Red and Blue, all said with sarcastic phrasing designed to get a rise out of Red and Blue. OP got what he wanted, and the message was funny. Nerf yellow shields, lol.

Too right. No Malice intended here - just a little fun.

Still, EP and DC suck....

Keepercraft

Nerf hayters cry.