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Need help with DK Tank Build for PVE Vet Dungeons + VDSA

Nick_Nitr0
Looking for a build that will allow me to tank the end game Vet content like Vet City of Ash , Vet WG Tower and Vet DSA. I am having a issue with builds I have seen online because they all seem to have 300 or more CP points and Monster Helm Sets. I have been running 4 Pledges daily and still no Engine Guardian Shoulders. I have the Engine Guardian Helm in Heavy but have had the worst luck with finding the shoulders in any armor type. I am Vet16 Dunmer DK with Approx. 180 CP, I just need help figuring this out it's driving me insane.
  • usmcjdking
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    What are you struggling with, exactly? Resource management? Getting one shot? VCOA, WGT and DSA aren't tremendously taxing for tanking (with the exception of the triple DK fight in vWGT). More often than not, it's not your gear, it's probably your skill bar that needs some tuning.

    We can give you cookie cutter builds all day long, but if you wanted sugar cookies instead of peanut butter then it won't help.
    Edited by usmcjdking on October 28, 2015 4:45PM
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  • Nick_Nitr0
    Well I'm struggling with the build overall. I have been trying tons of different sets like Armor Master, Hist Bark, Black Rose, and Seducer all with either 5 piece footman or 2 piece agility or endurance. I believe not having Engine Guardian shoulders is killing me, I go for 4 or 5 keys daily and still no shoulders. I am just trying to figure out if I need a Block Reduction Build or High Resistantance build. Since they changed stamina recovery while blocking I have been searching for a new build. I also know that I need to do some DPS for Vet WGT and VDSA. It seems to be a issue with resources and knowing what abilities go best with my class and armor. I felt confident in my build before the patch, now it seems like I'm changing my build every few days because there is something off. I actually got so frustrated I started to work on making my khajiit Nightblade a tank because it seemed like they were working better in the new harder content. If you could help I would greatly appreciate it. I have also seen all the cookie cutter builds like Deltia and stuff but he has max CP and Engine Guardian. I will get engine guardian at some point i hope but need a build that isn't reliant on 500 CP and Engine Guardian.
  • usmcjdking
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    I've tanked everything to completion with the exception of Lord Warden in 2 PC Engine Guardian, 3 PC Endurance, 2 PC Agility and 5 PC Ashen's Grip bro. 115 CP. The issue with Lord Warden is when he splits. If the DPSers cannot kill at least 2 or those splits before I run out of stamina from spamming absorb magicka, then it becomes too much for me to appropriately tank. Add into the fact that I can count on 1 hand the amount of DPSers that are built to offtank and you have a boss that's too much for this tank.

    You could slot Night's Silence for all I care and still dominate as a tank.

    Let's talk about VCOA for a tank. The problem with this fight is the amount of stamina it sucks to keep agro and not get facemelted. Now, when I made Atlas, all I knew is I wanted an old Black dude with a sweet beard so that played out pretty well with me being a Redguard and having great stamina recovery.

    I don't remember the boss order or the names so bear with me:

    When fighting the big dude who pounds the ground...don't pull him to the corner. Tell your team you are fighting him out in the open. If they start disagreeing just pull him anyways and fight him out in the open. He's easy in the open. Throw some inner fire's out there to pick up some of the melee adds that spawn and keep unstoppable running & Dragon's Blood pumping. Stay outta red. He doesn't hit that hard outside of his AOE attack.

    For the fire demon and his whirly girlfriends, this is a mobile tank fight. You need to rely on skills other than block for a majority of your tankiness. At no point should you just generally be standing there like a stalwart pillar of teamwipe. I personally prefer to use Elude for that sweet dodge chance or blade cloak since a majority of his damage are AOEs as well as templar heals. Since you don't have the sweet heals, use obsidian shield, or drive-by bone shield synergies. When he launches fire into the air, spam the *** out of Dragon's Blood or hit corrosive armor or whatever it's called to significantly reduce the damage you take.

    For the final boss, I can imagine you are running out of stamina, getting stoned and then catching the reverse uppercut pimp hand. Always, ALWAYS save your stamina potions to ensure you have enough to Break Free out of petrify, since you can see him telegraph it for like 5 seconds. After your BF, if you have an unacceptably low amount of stamina, hit the corrosive armor ulti and just heavy attack the *** out of him until you are back at 100%. Weapon trait should be weighted, you can sneak in a heavy attack & a light attack between all bosses base attack time. Rinse, repeat. If your DPS is slacking during the gold key you want to take him to a different path than your team after the last platform and literally run around in circles, hopping in and out of the lava. Most teams cannot indefinitely do this though, as it's tremendously taxing on your health bar and the healer.
    Edited by usmcjdking on October 28, 2015 5:31PM
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    vWGT Inhibitor fight is also a can of worms for a tank. It's not that you need to do some DPS. You need to be a LEGITIMATE DPSer so you can 1 shot the portals. I JUST got my Agility ring yesterday for my DPS gear and it made the difference between Crit Charge - LA to take out portals (which lead to inevitable failure) to just Crit Charge.

    For VDSA you don't need to do a tremendous amount of damage at V16. If you can survive while tanking the boss & the melee add then that should be more than enough to grind that out. I specifically use Alessian Order equipment for that fight because the amount of break frees and roll dodging you will have to do is redonkulous.
    Edited by usmcjdking on October 28, 2015 5:24PM
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  • Nick_Nitr0
    So with the ashen grip setup and and agility and endurance rings. How much resources do you have, and how much resistances. Ashen grip seems like it would have great DPS but lack any protection. Do you go robust on your agility pieces and robust on the endurance or do you go health? What abilities are you using and on which bars? Do you sword and board on both bars? Sorry I'm just amazed that you did that with the gear, does the team you run with have top tier DPS? I'm kinda speechless knowing you did it with pretty much DPS gear and I can't seem to keep up resources with damage reduction gear and tons of health stamina and resistance. Even for that build you run Engine Guardian, I feel like that set is a must have and I can't seem to get the shoulders at all. Such a pain LOL
  • Petros
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    If you want high resistance Passively (Meaning not having to waste resources on extra armor/spell resist) 5 footman, 4 alessia, 3 armor mastery. Block reduction x3 jewelry, CP - 50/50 Block reduction and spell resistance, get that 75 mark asap. 65/35 Magicka and stam reduction.

    sword and board both bars, have one bar with inner beast, structered entrophy, ign shield and dragon blood. save the stam for more blocking

    Use magicka/stam foods

    But for vDSA. you're gonna want a heavy magicka build
    Edited by Petros on October 28, 2015 5:32PM
    "Our light will bring the dawning of a new hope!" ~ Petros Fordring -The Order of Mundus
    - VR16 Imperial Dragonknight (DC -NA) & The One Handed Tank
  • Nick_Nitr0
    Petros wrote: »
    If you want high resistance Passively (Meaning not having to waste resources on extra armor/spell resist) 5 footman, 4 alessia, 3 armor mastery. Block reduction x3 jewelry, CP - 50/50 Block reduction and spell resistance, get that 75 mark asap. 65/35 Magicka and stam reduction.

    sword and board both bars, have one bar with inner beast, structered entrophy, ign shield and dragon blood. save the stam for more blocking

    Use magicka/stam foods

    What are max resources at? Do you have Tons of Stamina and Health? And with this build will need to keep block up or can I move around and actually be involved in the fight? It seems like it would be a strong build, have you completed VDSA & VWGT with it?

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    usmcjdking wrote: »
    When fighting the big dude who pounds the ground...don't pull him to the corner. Tell your team you are fighting him out in the open. If they start disagreeing just pull him anyways and fight him out in the open. He's easy in the open. Throw some inner fire's out there to pick up some of the melee adds that spawn and keep unstoppable running & Dragon's Blood pumping. Stay outta red. He doesn't hit that hard outside of his AOE attack.

    For the fire demon and his whirly girlfriends, this is a mobile tank fight. You need to rely on skills other than block for a majority of your tankiness. At no point should you just generally be standing there like a stalwart pillar of teamwipe. I personally prefer to use Elude for that sweet dodge chance or blade cloak since a majority of his damage are AOEs as well as templar heals. Since you don't have the sweet heals, use obsidian shield, or drive-by bone shield synergies. When he launches fire into the air, spam the *** out of Dragon's Blood or hit corrosive armor or whatever it's called to significantly reduce the damage you take.

    On the first boss I can't agree more, I don't get the groups that want to me to tank him to a corner or some stuff, much easier to just keep him in the center and try and pick as many of the adds as you can without directing the bosses cone AoE towards the rest of the group. Rely on your healer to keep you up and use dragon blood sparingly but keep the effect running so you can get the extra healing received buff from the darconic passive, I would suggest the Coagulating blood morph to get even more healing received while its active.

    Thou I do the Titan boss a bit differently :P I actually just keep block up the entire fight. He is slow and getting out of his AoE's is easy even with block up, and he and his Air Atro friends hit for so little when you debuff them with Deep Slash that they are not really that big of a threat, not even his fire in the Air attack. but then again I am a Dunmer so I guess I got that going for me as well. If you have it and if and when you feel comfortable not using corrosive, try using Warhorn as your ulti, it costs a bit more but it helps the dps tremendously and will make the fight go quicker since they will be able to do more damage. You will also get more Hp, Mag and Stam during that time so any synergies and shards you use will give you back more as well as your Igneous shield will be stronger since it scales of your max hp.

    No way is more correct than the other, do what works for you and test it out.
  • IvarrCathal
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    Nick, you say you need the DPS for WGT, how bout you start there. Try building your DPS first on the magika side while making sure to have 20k HP w/food and no gear then the rest goes into magika. Use Silks or Martial/Turogs/Will Power combo however you please. then at that point you can switch gear for the fights in which you are needed to do Damage. Then for your tanking gear 5 pc footman, 5 pc Histbark and then make 2 pc of your choice(more regen or more resistance). Use Atronach Boon.

    This is what i used to get through all the content that you are looking get through until i pulled my Imperium set, then i matched imperium with Alessia's 4pc and Engine 2pc.

    I need 2 pc Scathing Mage to finish my DPS gear but i am still working on it.

    and at this point I am only at 153 CP

    GL, hope this helps
  • Nick_Nitr0
    Won't a Magicka build hurt my ability to block and survive? I'm trying to learn everything I can so sorry for all the questions. I play on Xbox One and have been playing a lot since the release almost to much. I have a lot of the skill and stuff figured out but putting the right gear together with the right skills seems to be the death of me. I also am Dunmer so I don't know exactly what I should be using to help DPS harder Dungeons like VWGT and such?
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    Petros wrote: »
    But for vDSA. you're gonna want a heavy magicka build

    Not necessarily, stam based works just as well in VDSA, or I have at least had no difficulty completing it with a stam based set up.
  • Petros
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    I have completed all in this game with this.

    http://esoleaderboards.com/index.php?choice=so

    Look for me name in the NA side, shouldn't be too hard

    Max health though 36k, Physical Resistance 33k, Spell Resistance 33k, Stam 20k, Migicka 14k, I know how to manage my resources as well.

    But with my injury I suffered 3 months ago, I'm forced to play with one hand. Naga Razer.
    Edited by Petros on October 28, 2015 5:44PM
    "Our light will bring the dawning of a new hope!" ~ Petros Fordring -The Order of Mundus
    - VR16 Imperial Dragonknight (DC -NA) & The One Handed Tank
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    Nick_Nitr0 wrote: »
    So with the ashen grip setup and and agility and endurance rings. How much resources do you have, and how much resistances. Ashen grip seems like it would have great DPS but lack any protection. Do you go robust on your agility pieces and robust on the endurance or do you go health? What abilities are you using and on which bars? Do you sword and board on both bars? Sorry I'm just amazed that you did that with the gear, does the team you run with have top tier DPS? I'm kinda speechless knowing you did it with pretty much DPS gear and I can't seem to keep up resources with damage reduction gear and tons of health stamina and resistance. Even for that build you run Engine Guardian, I feel like that set is a must have and I can't seem to get the shoulders at all. Such a pain LOL

    My resistance is poor for a tank. Around 32%. But my health regen is probably nearing 3 times as much as yours, fully buffed (if using drink and hitting the radiant aura) it's at 3100. DO NOT underestimate how much health you get back passively in a fight with high health regen. Also, I use Ashen's because it is a TREMENDOUS agro set. It's like a free taunt on adds when it procs, which seems to be always. And it looks awesome when you breathe fire and never gets old.

    I also pump out a good 4.5k single target DPS during boss fights. While most people might shrug that off, consider as well that I am ALWAYS enganged with the boss (so my FTC timer never stops) and I have to not get gibbed by big attacks in the meantime. Seems low, right? Let's say we've been battling Valkyn Skoria for 2 minutes. I've done 600k damage to his some 4 million HP pool. That's 15% of his total life. That's NOT a small amount.

    All jewelry is healthy with health regen enchantments. The teams I usually run with are not top tier DPS, in most cases I can out DPS about half of our V16 DPSers when in DPS gear.
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  • Nick_Nitr0

    Nick, you say you need the DPS for WGT, how bout you start there. Try building your DPS first on the magika side while making sure to have 20k HP w/food and no gear then the rest goes into magika. Use Silks or Martial/Turogs/Will Power combo however you please. then at that point you can switch gear for the fights in which you are needed to do Damage. Then for your tanking gear 5 pc footman, 5 pc Histbark and then make 2 pc of your choice(more regen or more resistance). Use Atronach Boon.

    This is what i used to get through all the content that you are looking get through until i pulled my Imperium set, then i matched imperium with Alessia's 4pc and Engine 2pc.

    I need 2 pc Scathing Mage to finish my DPS gear but i am still working on it.

    and at this point I am only at 153 CP

    GL, hope this helps

    For the DPS portion of the build what abilities do I use with a dunmer? Do I stick with fire and elemental damage CP or do I go another route. Will I still have to agro and tank in VWGT or should I be more focused on damage? I have a lot of questions I can't seem to get the answers to so this is a god send. Now as far as tanking goes what stats am I looking to be at? Health,Stam,Mag,Resistance ... Thanks for the help
  • Nick_Nitr0
    Petros wrote: »
    I have completed all in this game with this.

    http://esoleaderboards.com/index.php?choice=so

    Look for me name in the NA side, shouldn't be too hard

    Max health though 36k, Physical Resistance 33k, Spell Resistance 33k, Stam 20k, Migicka 14k, I know how to manage my resources as well.

    But with my injury I suffered 3 months ago, I'm forced to play with one hand. Naga Razer.

    Thanks!! Gunna check it out ASAP. Sorry about your hand. I am taking notes on everything, I have made this a mission to complete VDSA AND VWGT by Monday. Thanks for the help gunna check out the link, I'll let you know if I have questions. I'm sure I will. Thanks Again
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    Again, with vDSA, I would swap out some gear for seducer
    "Our light will bring the dawning of a new hope!" ~ Petros Fordring -The Order of Mundus
    - VR16 Imperial Dragonknight (DC -NA) & The One Handed Tank
  • usmcjdking
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    Nick_Nitr0 wrote: »
    Nick, you say you need the DPS for WGT, how bout you start there. Try building your DPS first on the magika side while making sure to have 20k HP w/food and no gear then the rest goes into magika. Use Silks or Martial/Turogs/Will Power combo however you please. then at that point you can switch gear for the fights in which you are needed to do Damage. Then for your tanking gear 5 pc footman, 5 pc Histbark and then make 2 pc of your choice(more regen or more resistance). Use Atronach Boon.

    This is what i used to get through all the content that you are looking get through until i pulled my Imperium set, then i matched imperium with Alessia's 4pc and Engine 2pc.

    I need 2 pc Scathing Mage to finish my DPS gear but i am still working on it.

    and at this point I am only at 153 CP

    GL, hope this helps

    For the DPS portion of the build what abilities do I use with a dunmer? Do I stick with fire and elemental damage CP or do I go another route. Will I still have to agro and tank in VWGT or should I be more focused on damage? I have a lot of questions I can't seem to get the answers to so this is a god send. Now as far as tanking goes what stats am I looking to be at? Health,Stam,Mag,Resistance ... Thanks for the help
    Petros wrote: »
    I have completed all in this game with this.

    http://esoleaderboards.com/index.php?choice=so

    Look for me name in the NA side, shouldn't be too hard

    Max health though 36k, Physical Resistance 33k, Spell Resistance 33k, Stam 20k, Migicka 14k, I know how to manage my resources as well.

    But with my injury I suffered 3 months ago, I'm forced to play with one hand. Naga Razer.

    I'm sitting a lot lower at 28k spell, 23k physical, 30k health, 19.5k stam and 18k magicka.

    Anyways the point being here Nitro is to evaluate the tools you have. If you team wipe, the first thing you need to do is open your skills and look for ANYTHING that will assist in prevent that.

    I've gone as far as equipping a white junk loot resto staff to put the blessing of protection on our of our DPSers so he wouldn't get one shot by the Nerieneth skull attack lol....
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  • Nick_Nitr0
    Petros wrote: »
    Again, with vDSA, I would swap out some gear for seducer

    What are you using on your bars with seducer? All heavy armor and sword and board or is a completely different type of build. I have seen a lot of Dunmer DK using the Fire Damage Passive they get along with elemental damage CP Points and fire abilities. Is this what you suggest or am I doing something different, sorry I haven't used magicka DK since the patch I loved it before but seems like I can't keep and stamina up and I'm always using tri's or needing shards.
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    usmcjdking wrote: »
    Nick_Nitr0 wrote: »
    Nick, you say you need the DPS for WGT, how bout you start there. Try building your DPS first on the magika side while making sure to have 20k HP w/food and no gear then the rest goes into magika. Use Silks or Martial/Turogs/Will Power combo however you please. then at that point you can switch gear for the fights in which you are needed to do Damage. Then for your tanking gear 5 pc footman, 5 pc Histbark and then make 2 pc of your choice(more regen or more resistance). Use Atronach Boon.

    This is what i used to get through all the content that you are looking get through until i pulled my Imperium set, then i matched imperium with Alessia's 4pc and Engine 2pc.

    I need 2 pc Scathing Mage to finish my DPS gear but i am still working on it.

    and at this point I am only at 153 CP

    GL, hope this helps

    For the DPS portion of the build what abilities do I use with a dunmer? Do I stick with fire and elemental damage CP or do I go another route. Will I still have to agro and tank in VWGT or should I be more focused on damage? I have a lot of questions I can't seem to get the answers to so this is a god send. Now as far as tanking goes what stats am I looking to be at? Health,Stam,Mag,Resistance ... Thanks for the help
    Petros wrote: »
    I have completed all in this game with this.

    http://esoleaderboards.com/index.php?choice=so

    Look for me name in the NA side, shouldn't be too hard

    Max health though 36k, Physical Resistance 33k, Spell Resistance 33k, Stam 20k, Migicka 14k, I know how to manage my resources as well.

    But with my injury I suffered 3 months ago, I'm forced to play with one hand. Naga Razer.

    I'm sitting a lot lower at 28k spell, 23k physical, 30k health, 19.5k stam and 18k magicka.

    Anyways the point being here Nitro is to evaluate the tools you have. If you team wipe, the first thing you need to do is open your skills and look for ANYTHING that will assist in prevent that.

    I've gone as far as equipping a white junk loot resto staff to put the blessing of protection on our of our DPSers so he wouldn't get one shot by the Nerieneth skull attack lol....

    I feel so sorry for you, about the highlighted part. No sarcasm, that is horrible if you actually had to do that. Never heard of something like that.
  • Nick_Nitr0
    usmcjdking wrote: »
    Nick_Nitr0 wrote: »
    Nick, you say you need the DPS for WGT, how bout you start there. Try building your DPS first on the magika side while making sure to have 20k HP w/food and no gear then the rest goes into magika. Use Silks or Martial/Turogs/Will Power combo however you please. then at that point you can switch gear for the fights in which you are needed to do Damage. Then for your tanking gear 5 pc footman, 5 pc Histbark and then make 2 pc of your choice(more regen or more resistance). Use Atronach Boon.

    This is what i used to get through all the content that you are looking get through until i pulled my Imperium set, then i matched imperium with Alessia's 4pc and Engine 2pc.

    I need 2 pc Scathing Mage to finish my DPS gear but i am still working on it.

    and at this point I am only at 153 CP

    GL, hope this helps

    For the DPS portion of the build what abilities do I use with a dunmer? Do I stick with fire and elemental damage CP or do I go another route. Will I still have to agro and tank in VWGT or should I be more focused on damage? I have a lot of questions I can't seem to get the answers to so this is a god send. Now as far as tanking goes what stats am I looking to be at? Health,Stam,Mag,Resistance ... Thanks for the help
    Petros wrote: »
    I have completed all in this game with this.

    http://esoleaderboards.com/index.php?choice=so

    Look for me name in the NA side, shouldn't be too hard

    Max health though 36k, Physical Resistance 33k, Spell Resistance 33k, Stam 20k, Migicka 14k, I know how to manage my resources as well.

    But with my injury I suffered 3 months ago, I'm forced to play with one hand. Naga Razer.

    I'm sitting a lot lower at 28k spell, 23k physical, 30k health, 19.5k stam and 18k magicka.

    Anyways the point being here Nitro is to evaluate the tools you have. If you team wipe, the first thing you need to do is open your skills and look for ANYTHING that will assist in prevent that.

    I've gone as far as equipping a white junk loot resto staff to put the blessing of protection on our of our DPSers so he wouldn't get one shot by the Nerieneth skull attack lol....

    I usually am switching up utility abilities between fights and such, I just have had issues keep a solid base and knowing what I need to do to keep up resources without engine guardian for now
  • Petros
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    I don't switch up the build too much, I just use the set to chain all the mobs to the dps, and you'll be using alot of chains, luckly, when you chain something, they wont really go anywhere for a seond or two, so you don't need to worry about chain, taunt, chain, taunt. Just chain them all to you and the dps will get the rest.



    And...


    f you are a Tank Tank( Hard capped resistances, self heals, alot of health and stam) You're healer can dps, and a heal set is just as good as if they were a dps

    Taunt, hold block, move out of red, use ign shield + Dragon blood combo from time to time, use a absorb magicka from time to time too
    Edited by Petros on October 28, 2015 6:00PM
    "Our light will bring the dawning of a new hope!" ~ Petros Fordring -The Order of Mundus
    - VR16 Imperial Dragonknight (DC -NA) & The One Handed Tank
  • IvarrCathal
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    During Inhibitor you would still be the of tank in the situation that adds are released from the portals so you would keep you chains and talons on one of your bars.
    Dual Swords: Inferno, Chains, Talons, Ash Cloud, Structured Entrapy, Standart of Might
    Staff: Inferno, Engulfing Flame, Whip, Weakness to Element, Elemental Ring, Magma Shell
    20k HP, 29k Magika, 14k Stam

    S&B: Hardened Armor, Pierced Armor, Talons, Ash Cloud, Dragon Blood, Standard
    S&B: Ignious Shield, Inner Rage, Whip, Chain, Dragon Blood, Magma Shell
    20k Magika, 30k Health, 14k Stam

    I keep all my champ points geared toward DPS unless i have a weaker group then i will change it toward the tanking side of things
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    Nick_Nitr0 wrote: »
    usmcjdking wrote: »
    Nick_Nitr0 wrote: »
    Nick, you say you need the DPS for WGT, how bout you start there. Try building your DPS first on the magika side while making sure to have 20k HP w/food and no gear then the rest goes into magika. Use Silks or Martial/Turogs/Will Power combo however you please. then at that point you can switch gear for the fights in which you are needed to do Damage. Then for your tanking gear 5 pc footman, 5 pc Histbark and then make 2 pc of your choice(more regen or more resistance). Use Atronach Boon.

    This is what i used to get through all the content that you are looking get through until i pulled my Imperium set, then i matched imperium with Alessia's 4pc and Engine 2pc.

    I need 2 pc Scathing Mage to finish my DPS gear but i am still working on it.

    and at this point I am only at 153 CP

    GL, hope this helps

    For the DPS portion of the build what abilities do I use with a dunmer? Do I stick with fire and elemental damage CP or do I go another route. Will I still have to agro and tank in VWGT or should I be more focused on damage? I have a lot of questions I can't seem to get the answers to so this is a god send. Now as far as tanking goes what stats am I looking to be at? Health,Stam,Mag,Resistance ... Thanks for the help
    Petros wrote: »
    I have completed all in this game with this.

    http://esoleaderboards.com/index.php?choice=so

    Look for me name in the NA side, shouldn't be too hard

    Max health though 36k, Physical Resistance 33k, Spell Resistance 33k, Stam 20k, Migicka 14k, I know how to manage my resources as well.

    But with my injury I suffered 3 months ago, I'm forced to play with one hand. Naga Razer.

    I'm sitting a lot lower at 28k spell, 23k physical, 30k health, 19.5k stam and 18k magicka.

    Anyways the point being here Nitro is to evaluate the tools you have. If you team wipe, the first thing you need to do is open your skills and look for ANYTHING that will assist in prevent that.

    I've gone as far as equipping a white junk loot resto staff to put the blessing of protection on our of our DPSers so he wouldn't get one shot by the Nerieneth skull attack lol....

    I usually am switching up utility abilities between fights and such, I just have had issues keep a solid base and knowing what I need to do to keep up resources without engine guardian for now

    This should go without saying but I'll say it anyway, use every single synergy you see as often as you can. 4% of your max resources back on all 3 resources when using a synergy is really good. You can also use high cost ulties an oh *** I need stamina since it will give a lot of resources back. I'm not sure of the exact numbers but I know when I use a Warhorn which costs 250 ulti it gives me 50% of my max back on all 3 resources. If you can time it as well using Earthen Heart abilities gives you 5% max stamina back but what you can do as well in some situations is to use the Igneous shield and while the shield is up try and get in 1-2 heavy attacks. That will help a lot.
  • Petros
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    If I can retrain myself to tank with using only one hand, any one can tank
    "Our light will bring the dawning of a new hope!" ~ Petros Fordring -The Order of Mundus
    - VR16 Imperial Dragonknight (DC -NA) & The One Handed Tank
  • Nick_Nitr0
    how do I see the builds in the leaderboard LOL
  • usmcjdking
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    usmcjdking wrote: »
    Nick_Nitr0 wrote: »
    Nick, you say you need the DPS for WGT, how bout you start there. Try building your DPS first on the magika side while making sure to have 20k HP w/food and no gear then the rest goes into magika. Use Silks or Martial/Turogs/Will Power combo however you please. then at that point you can switch gear for the fights in which you are needed to do Damage. Then for your tanking gear 5 pc footman, 5 pc Histbark and then make 2 pc of your choice(more regen or more resistance). Use Atronach Boon.

    This is what i used to get through all the content that you are looking get through until i pulled my Imperium set, then i matched imperium with Alessia's 4pc and Engine 2pc.

    I need 2 pc Scathing Mage to finish my DPS gear but i am still working on it.

    and at this point I am only at 153 CP

    GL, hope this helps

    For the DPS portion of the build what abilities do I use with a dunmer? Do I stick with fire and elemental damage CP or do I go another route. Will I still have to agro and tank in VWGT or should I be more focused on damage? I have a lot of questions I can't seem to get the answers to so this is a god send. Now as far as tanking goes what stats am I looking to be at? Health,Stam,Mag,Resistance ... Thanks for the help
    Petros wrote: »
    I have completed all in this game with this.

    http://esoleaderboards.com/index.php?choice=so

    Look for me name in the NA side, shouldn't be too hard

    Max health though 36k, Physical Resistance 33k, Spell Resistance 33k, Stam 20k, Migicka 14k, I know how to manage my resources as well.

    But with my injury I suffered 3 months ago, I'm forced to play with one hand. Naga Razer.

    I'm sitting a lot lower at 28k spell, 23k physical, 30k health, 19.5k stam and 18k magicka.

    Anyways the point being here Nitro is to evaluate the tools you have. If you team wipe, the first thing you need to do is open your skills and look for ANYTHING that will assist in prevent that.

    I've gone as far as equipping a white junk loot resto staff to put the blessing of protection on our of our DPSers so he wouldn't get one shot by the Nerieneth skull attack lol....

    I feel so sorry for you, about the highlighted part. No sarcasm, that is horrible if you actually had to do that. Never heard of something like that.

    When ZOS said they wanted to make tanking more challenging I thought they meant I would have to manage resources, be smart about block and tanking in general.

    Not be grouped with purple fooded 17khp glass cannons with 5% resist and no defensive skills.
    0331
    0602
  • Petros
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    You don't see builds, just the newest score
    "Our light will bring the dawning of a new hope!" ~ Petros Fordring -The Order of Mundus
    - VR16 Imperial Dragonknight (DC -NA) & The One Handed Tank
  • Nick_Nitr0
    Ok, Gotcha! Now just gotta wait for the server so I can start making armor and getting ready for the Vet Material. I'm gunna read through all this and most likely I will try them all. Thank You all for helping, you have all been amazing and very knowledgeable. Now I have to find which builds and tips fit my play style. Thanks Again .. I'll have more questions shortly I'm sure.
  • usmcjdking
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    @Petros

    I want to see this 1 handed tank in action. Invite me @usmcjdking.
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  • IvarrCathal
    IvarrCathal
    Soul Shriven
    You say you are on Xbox, is your GT the same? and are you Ebonheart?
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