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DC Cheaters on chillrend ps4 NA have taken it to far with ep spy

Greyhame
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Tonight we got to see final, and better be bannable proof that the Daggerfall Covenant on Chillrend has to cheat to win.

I don't ever bag on the alliances like this or even decry players that decide to switch alliance. After all it is just a game. I don't even get worked up over crossalliance cooperation.

But what happened tonight was sickening and it makes every blue look bad.

Lubricated Dockers (Name changed so we make sure this is a aerospace with no responsibility for people's actions) an ex ep player and very active DC player got sick of seeing dc get handed it's ash tonight. I assume he did anyway because I can't think what else would make him log onto his old ep character and during a skirmish at Farragut just so he could pick up the missing DC scroll and then proceed to take it clear a crossed the entire map, all the while ep telling him we know he is a spy, we are recording, and we are reporting him to the GMs.

He stopped in Chalman long enough to avoid AD Attacks. Then took the scroll past Bleakers where he met up with his blue escorts. ESCORTS! You tell me what they were when he was able to run right through them with impunity while carrying their scroll. He got ahead of us as his escort fought with us. We finally caught up with him just outside of Glademist as he died to his guild mates who got the scroll that we fought hard and fair for all night. They walked it in no trouble, how could they not when it was delivered like Dominoes by this low, cheating, nothing piece of garbage. His guild knew right where to meet him too.

At least 30 players had to have filed complaints about Jizzy Jeans. Most of them recorded the whole thing. If ZOS has any control over this game he will be permenantly banned and never have I seen anyone deserve it more.

If you are DC on Chillrend in ps4 NA then I suggest you ostracized this kind of garbage publicly. Let the rest of the folks who you are playing with know that this garbage and the guild he runs with are not representative of DC as a whole. If you don't then you are all Cheaters right along with him.
Edited by Greyhame on October 23, 2015 1:22PM
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  • DannyLV702
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    That is pretty low. I only play azura so i don't think ive ever seen him
  • Artemisshrikes
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    that's not cheating that's just playing dirty
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  • Artemisshrikes
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    so if someone isn't cheating but they defend a cheater you saying they become cheats for defending a cheater WTF your logic is worthless
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  • Alucardo
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    So.. you decide to break two rules yourself: Names in thread titles and name shaming. Please read the code of conduct. It's there for a reason.
  • Artemisshrikes
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    Greyhame wrote: »
    Tonight we got to see final, and better be bannable proof that the Daggerfall Covenant on Chillrend has to cheat to win.

    I don't ever bag on the alliances like this or even decry players that decide to switch alliance. After all it is just a game. I don't even get worked up over crossalliance cooperation.

    But what happened tonight was sickening and it makes every blue look bad.

    slippery slacks an ex ep player and very active DC player got sick of seeing dc get handed it's ash tonight. I assume he did anyway because I can't think what else would make him log onto his old ep character and during a skirmish at Farragut just so he could pick up the missing DC scroll and then proceed to take it clear a crossed the entire map, all the while ep telling him we know he is a spy, we are recording, and we are reporting him to the GMs.

    He stopped in Chalman long enough to avoid AD Attacks. Then took the scroll past Bleakers where he met up with his blue escorts. ESCORTS! You tell me what they were when he was able to run right through them with impunity while carrying their scroll. He got ahead of us as his escort fought with us. We finally caught up with him just outside of Glademist as he died to his guild mates who got the scroll that we fought hard and fair for all night. They walked it in no trouble, how could they not when it was delivered like Dominoes by this low, cheating, nothing piece of garbage. His guild knew right where to meet him too.

    At least 30 players had to have filed complaints about Slippery slacks. Most of them recorded the whole thing. If ZOS has any control over this game he will be permenantly banned and never have I seen anyone deserve it more.

    If you are DC on Chillrend in ps4 NA then I suggest you ostracized this kind of garbage publicly. Let the rest of the folks who you are playing with know that this garbage and the guild he runs with are not representative of DC as a whole. If you don't then you are all Cheaters right along with him.

    I'm offended at the fact your being a sore loser people have different tactics it isn't in the rules that's says he cant do what he did
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  • BaldusMageezack
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    Cheat moar
    Edited by BaldusMageezack on October 23, 2015 6:23AM
  • Levo18
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    There should be some sort of voting system just like the kick from session voting system in other games.

    If enough people vote the one who has the scroll is forced to drop it and cant pick it up again.
    Ofcourse it could get abused by large groups/guilds and to prevent any abuse i cant think off a solution so goodbye xD


  • Yonkit
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    that's not cheating that's just playing dirty

    It's not cheating, Brian Wheeler has confirmed this is classified as "Campaign Politics" so... Deal with it.
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  • Artemisshrikes
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    Yonkit wrote: »
    that's not cheating that's just playing dirty

    It's not cheating, Brian Wheeler has confirmed this is classified as "Campaign Politics" so... Deal with it.

    thank you people make such big deals over taboo playstyles
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  • TaCoSlurpY
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    It's plain out lame, end of story.
  • Artemisshrikes
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    yes what he did was lame and prickish but it wasn't cheating
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  • Yonkit
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    @Artemisshrikes linked the wrong one, @ZOS_AlanG is usually the one to look into these threads and decide whether or not to close them. Still, props for hurting the child's ego. :trollface:

    [Moderator Note: Removed moderated quote]
    Edited by ZOS_Brett on October 23, 2015 7:04AM
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  • Artemisshrikes
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    Yonkit wrote: »
    I wasn't aware there was a rule against a gamer who owns a xb1 and a ps4 to comment in both threads

    Well since it's got not a damned thing to do with you one would figure you would stfu and go play xbox. You *** can cheat there until the cows come home for all i care

    @ZOS_GinaBruno

    See you on my new account tomorrow ban this one all you want, DO your *** job too

    go to bed child

    @Artemisshrikes linked the wrong one, @ZOS_AlanG is usually the one to look into these threads and decide whether or not to close them. Still, props for hurting the child's ego. :trollface:

    thanks I never know who to link
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  • Artemisshrikes
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  • Sithisvoid
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    Not surprised to see DC or EP cheating they seem to lack the skill to do it naturally.
  • RDMyers65b14_ESO
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    It has happened before on the PC NA Azura's, but it was the AD running the EP scroll to them. A few weeks ago, it happened that an EP player playing his DC alt grabbed the DC scroll when the DC attempted to claim it and then ran it to the EP... But he dropped the scroll when one of the EP who was not in on the plot killed him the scroll reset and the same player respawned to try to take the scroll again, but the rest of the DC stood between him and the scroll and was able to get it back home.

    No faction is 100% clear of those who believe that they have to cheat to win. It happens everywhere. It is sad that someone feels that they have to cheat to win an online game. A little hint for you... Winning the game won't buy a cup of coffee. It is meaningless in the grand scheme of things. You can not pay your bills with winning the game.

    The point of playing is to have fun. Cheating robs you of the fun.
  • Weberda
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    It has happened before on the PC NA Azura's, but it was the AD running the EP scroll to them. A few weeks ago, it happened that an EP player playing his DC alt grabbed the DC scroll when the DC attempted to claim it and then ran it to the EP... But he dropped the scroll when one of the EP who was not in on the plot killed him the scroll reset and the same player respawned to try to take the scroll again, but the rest of the DC stood between him and the scroll and was able to get it back home.

    No faction is 100% clear of those who believe that they have to cheat to win. It happens everywhere. It is sad that someone feels that they have to cheat to win an online game. A little hint for you... Winning the game won't buy a cup of coffee. It is meaningless in the grand scheme of things. You can not pay your bills with winning the game.

    The point of playing is to have fun. Cheating robs you of the fun.

    This is a pretty old tactic that goes way back. I think the first time I ever experienced it was on Haderus NA. I believe it was Fixate on his AD toon who picked up a DC scroll outside of BB that his DC buddies had taken from the keep. I chased that damn guy halfway across the map whacking at him all the way before I realized I couldn't damage a fellow AD. Boy was I mad and so were a lot of other AD. He must have been reported by at least a dozen times that night but it was a legal maneuver. It's funnier than hell now in retrospect. Sure miss a lot of those old moments.

    Edited by Weberda on October 23, 2015 12:21PM
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  • Cillion3117
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    Spies, Espionage, and Turncoats have always been a part of war. It might be dirty, but it is effective.
  • Greyhame
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    Spies, Espionage, and Turncoats have always been a part of war. It might be dirty, but it is effective.

    This is obviously not the same thing. In all those examples you gave you can execute the traitor once he is found out.

    In this instance the guy just got to run the scroll back to DC in essential God Mode while half the EP on the server barked at him in area chat.

    That is not espionage that is exploitation without any chance of repercussion. If ZOS doesn't have a serious problem with this type of thing then it is potentially going to happen more and more and *** more and more players off to the point of disgust with the game as a whole.
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  • WarrioroftheWind_ESO
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    OP what you described isn't cheating in any form. It's just a *** move. And in PVP unfortunately *** moves are permissible, hell even acceptable in some communities. It's frowned upon by any faction, but that's not going to stop people from doing it. Really best thing to do is just keep on pvping and if EP, justly enraged by this cowardice, decides to punch DC's teeth in, by all means smile when the beating's over. I've seen my fair share of BS happen such as infinite rollers camping scrolls before the barriers and gates were modified then snatching scrolls while all gate keeps were up, and multiple scrolls being run simultaneously just to rub it in the losing faction. This game is full of ***, and Cyrodiil is full of more ***, and each faction is full of 24k gold ***.

    It sucks, but it happens. This is open-world pvp, and unless someone is actually messing with the game in some convoluted way, anything goes within the mechanics of play.
  • TheNephilimCrow
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    I'm confused. I thought you couldn't join a campaign you have on another character. It gives you a whole message saying so.
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  • BigDSoulReaper
    for those that are miss informed, there is no name shamming in the topic title or thread by greyhame, as the names have been changed so not to violate those rules.
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  • Stinslow
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    It is unacceptable that a player is even able to do this and Zenimax needs to put some type of block in place to keep it from happening. It is not a game mechanic. If anything it is an oversight by Zenimax that is being exploited and needs to be fixed. I would not be a member of a guild that participates in that kind of activity and I think any decent guild should kick a member that does participate in it.
    Edited by Stinslow on October 23, 2015 5:55PM
  • BigDSoulReaper
    the person that is being talked about in this thread is even doing it again right now. in a campaign that only scrolls get you points is zenimax really going to just let this happen?
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  • RDMyers65b14_ESO
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    I'm confused. I thought you couldn't join a campaign you have on another character. It gives you a whole message saying so.

    There are ways around the 'can't have more than one character on a campaign'. I can think of three off the top of my head. The biggest is called guesting followed by jumping to group leader. The third is harder but it is called having more than one account. The sad thing is that there are people who are so interested in winning that they will spend the $$$ to be able to cheat.
  • americansteel
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    Alucardo wrote: »
    So.. you decide to break two rules yourself: Names in thread titles and name shaming. Please read the code of conduct. It's there for a reason.

    some one getting upset because some one called out some one in their own alliance help out another alliance for victories.
    I need not say any more.
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  • catalyst10e
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    I'll say this, I don't agree with what they did, it was wrong, stupid, and robs the fun of the whole campaign. Had I myself been there, I might've at least tried to kill him to give the reds an opportunity to pick the scroll back up. (No way I'd run it over myself and get reported) But I'd also say you can't disparage ALL of DC for the actions of a single EX EP, and his guildmates. DC didn't "cheat" Dockers and his guild did. They really do need to implement a sort of block to keep same characters from the same campaign.

    This all does reflect poorly on DC, so as a DC you have my sincerest apologies.
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  • Greyhame
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    I'll say this, I don't agree with what they did, it was wrong, stupid, and robs the fun of the whole campaign. Had I myself been there, I might've at least tried to kill him to give the reds an opportunity to pick the scroll back up. (No way I'd run it over myself and get reported) But I'd also say you can't disparage ALL of DC for the actions of a single EX EP, and his guildmates. DC didn't "cheat" Dockers and his guild did. They really do need to implement a sort of block to keep same characters from the same campaign.

    This all does reflect poorly on DC, so as a DC you have my sincerest apologies.


    You are right this is not the fault of DC as a whole and I should not lump you all in with a few pieces of garbage that run blue. But this dude and his whole guild can eat a bagful of rancid rotting phallic meats.

    But in a situation like this each alliance should have the power to police their own. And since we don't have that then Zos needs to.
    Greyhame
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  • Lokey0024
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    The cheating part of this is he ambush glitches his buddies into the keep, they grab the scroll and die, he picks it up and runs it unchecked. DC everytime they have done this was almost pushed to their gates.

    The keep never flags....
    On a server in which points are gained thru elderscroll posession this is gamebreaking. If this has been an issue in the past, which according to all accounts that i have read has not, and someone was following a zerg to return a scroll to their "real" faction if the occasion arose, thats a *** move but had a possibility of not happening. But this is deliberately abusing a glitch in game to grief his former faction and sway the points totals to his new faction, and cannot be defended, at least merits a response if not action.

    Edited by Lokey0024 on October 24, 2015 6:35AM
  • FilthyMudcrabs
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    Lol, DC has little to no presence on any map other than Chillrend. Just let them have it.
    Saw a mudcrab the other day. Dreadful creatures.
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