Traders Nightmare! Help!

sazodeha

This players market is an absolute nightmare! Just one example. My provisioner gets the crafting writ to make Mulled Wine, a recipe of course she does not have. Hit the traders.

Logging in every faction traveling every guild trader I could find, I couldn't find that recipe at all! AND it took well over an hour! There has to be a better way to search ALL the guild traders rather than just jumping around, and to make matters worse there is no search function?? Why Dev!? Why did you design the players market SO HORRIBLY!!!???

The way the players market is designed currently is inefficient, cumbersome, a massive waste of time and absolutely a pain in the tuckus!!! PLEASE CENTRALIZE!!!!!

DannyLV702

Maybe I'm dumb but I don't really understand what you're trying to say. Maybe because I don't do writs idk

sazodeha

in other words, finding a specific item across ALL guild traders is not possible and a very, very, very, very, very, poorly designed players market economy! There needs to be:

1) A central way to search for items specifically across ALL guild traders
2) A "search" function that allows you to type in what it is your looking for

Deheart

Make a provisioner char, spend a day or two leveling provisioning up, use it to supply the provisioning writs for all chars. For some reason provisioning writ supplies can be made by any char.

Also, get the addon master merchant, it automaticly searches a store untill it finds what you are looking for, no stopping each page.

DannyLV702

That would ruin the purpose of bidding for traders. Every place would cost the same and it would be pointless to have traders to interact with. Same thing as with finding the right location for a business in the real world.

AlphaCrucis

sazodeha wrote: »

This players market is an absolute nightmare! Just one example. My provisioner gets the crafting writ to make Mulled Wine, a recipe of course she does not have. Hit the traders.

Logging in every faction traveling every guild trader I could find, I couldn't find that recipe at all! AND it took well over an hour! There has to be a better way to search ALL the guild traders rather than just jumping around, and to make matters worse there is no search function?? Why Dev!? Why did you design the players market SO HORRIBLY!!!???

The way the players market is designed currently is inefficient, cumbersome, a massive waste of time and absolutely a pain in the tuckus!!! PLEASE CENTRALIZE!!!!!

For me personally the easiest way to find items i need is through guilds that I'm in, it's not very often i go to guild traders

Drax76

Deheart wrote: »

Also, get the addon master merchant, it automaticly searches a store untill it finds what you are looking for, no stopping each page.

Woefully this isn't an option for Console players.

MilwaukeeScott

You should be glad that we have a search option now. Quit beechin or they'll take it away!

Count_Dracula

DannyLV702 wrote: »

That would ruin the purpose of bidding for traders. Every place would cost the same and it would be pointless to have traders to interact with. Same thing as with finding the right location for a business in the real world.

I agree with this.

sazodeha

DannyLV702 wrote: »

That would ruin the purpose of bidding for traders. Every place would cost the same and it would be pointless to have traders to interact with. Same thing as with finding the right location for a business in the real world.

So I should pay a monthly fee to simulate how much the real world is unfair, a gross monopoly, and sucks? I live that everyday for free (although not really since we all pay out the ass in one form or another), why pay to virtually experience it!!?? This is a game that is supposed to be fun!!

The point is they are desperately trying to be "visionary" in doing the trading system like no other and failing miserably!!!! Sure, the guild that pays the most coin has the most frequented trader by convenience. But that serves the SELLER NOT THE BUYER!

A centralized selling system benefits all in the long run, there is a reason why just about every other MMO in existence does it that way, if your trying to be different or innovative, do so in a way that is NOT a huge waste of time and resources, not to mention unfair to a great many!

So many times I think that people loose sight of the fact that this is a GAME! It should be fun, not so frustrating and so much bloody work that it become tedium!!

sazodeha

MilwaukeeScott wrote: »

You should be glad that we have a search option now. Quit beechin or they'll take it away!

that is just foolish thinking!

sazodeha

AlphaCrucis wrote: »

[quote=For me personally the easiest way to find items i need is through guilds that I'm in, it's not very often i go to guild traders

Exactly!! This highlights the problem. The trading system is so horrible people are driven to the point they dont even bother with it, instead leaning on their guilds! That my friend is a symptom! Fix it Dev! Admit your failure, put on your big boy pants, and stop being so stubborn in holding onto an idea that is an utter disaster!

Tarukmockto

@sazodeha: Seriously? A year and a half into this game and you think suddenly ZOS is going to see the light? For better or worse, it is what it is. The Guild Kiosk system is never going to change.

I've been playing since beta, and quite frankly, I'm amazed that any console players even bother to play this game as gimped as it is without Add-Ons. If it weren't for the Add-Ons on PC, I'd have been done a long time ago. Good luck!

Fat-Larry-Makes-All

10 years ago in Runescape (no snickering at the back there please) if you wanted a specific item you had to go to a crowded place and type your offer in a sea of hundreds of others doing the same. Quite cumbersome, but very satisfying when you got what you wanted.

I think you're making a mistake by thinking that easier means more fun. Getting that exact item you want should be somewhat of a challenge in my opinion.

Now those provisioning recipes specifically are a different matter, but that's because it was a stupid move to make players need recipes they have no way of getting outside of buying them of off other players or creating alternate characters.

failkiwib16_ESO

OP you got my sympathy. I looked for a recipe I missed for over 2 months, spending many hours going from trader to trader. It hurts my eyes to browse through the traders, because we have no search function. I was willing to give 60k for it, but finelly found it for 9k in one of my trading guilds ...

For me the current trading system feels like everything is gimped and dumbed down to purposely annoy me ..and so many others I have met in through the game x_x I don't find it "challenging" I find it annoying and time consuming.

If I wanted a challenge, I would go do actual content. Like helping some hopeless noobs through pledges, or try to solo bosses in the Imperial Sewers, join a group for Imperial City Prison, do Dragonstar Arena with low levels and stuff like that.

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@Fat-Larry-Makes-All
Don't runescape have an auction house?

psychojudge

I have the same problem for baked potatos. Is there a chance to find this recipe at vet2?

HebrewHatchet

I like the current system (ps4), but searching for Surviving item in a given store sucks, especially when you're looking through several hundred recipes for a specific one. A search function is needed, just for the store that you're looking through

Fat-Larry-Makes-All

failkiwib16_ESO wrote: »

@Fat-Larry-Makes-All
Don't runescape have an auction house?

Yes the trade of real world cash and items for in-game stuff got so out of hand (there were bots everywhere) that Jagex was forced to abolish free inter player trading all together and introduce the Grand Exchange, RS's version of an auction house.

I think free trading is back in the game now though.

I was talking about before that, where you had trade worlds where thousands of people gathered in Fallador park to trade.

LarryLoaf

As above i think it has bee set up like this to try and stop real cash sale on eBay and website like what happens on fifa and such