[game breaking bug]: no progress in Fighters/Mages Guild skill line

jowww97

@ZOS_RichLambert , Do you guys know if in the next dlc, this issue will be fixed? A yes or no will answer for us once for all

jowww97

Nice! Thieves guild will have some really good changes, but...


NOOOOO ZOS!! YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO BE THE CHOSEN ONE! We trusted you and you failed us!! Please fix this problem!! We have already waited months for dawnbreaker!

Please check this problem and fix it!

johu31

Xbox one, AD DK Vet 16. 800 hours played. My fighters guild is maxed out... At LEVEL 9!!! So add me to the list. My journal says I've killed thousands of daedra. Fighters guild quest completed too. FML

Fasold666

Yes, unfortunately no fix for it in the thieves guild pts patch. They probably:
1. Haven't looked at this issue at all. Or
2. They don't know how to fix it.

Otherwise they would have atleast talked to one of us before.

@johu31: Thank you for your post. I feel you.

Fasold666

Bump

jowww97

Any answers ZOS? Thieves guild is coming! Just look at our problem!

johu31

Last email I got from support said that isolated reports are coming in. So it either rare, or people have realized it yet because the skill line doesn't interest them. I'm going to email screenshots of my journal to ZOS It'll show achievements such as how many and what type of daedra killed, dolmens closed, daedra generals killed, fighters guild quest line completion.

jowww97

johu31 wrote: »

Last email I got from support said that isolated reports are coming in. So it either rare, or people have realized it yet because the skill line doesn't interest them. I'm going to email screenshots of my journal to ZOS It'll show achievements such as how many and what type of daedra killed, dolmens closed, daedra generals killed, fighters guild quest line completion.

Me too. Going to post it here as well

WalkingLegacy

If they can't fix the bug how hard would it be for them to just unlock it via their client on their server?

Apparently too hard for this team. Embarrassing.

johu31

WalkingLegacy wrote: »

If they can't fix the bug how hard would it be for them to just unlock it via their client on their server?

Apparently too hard for this team. Embarrassing.

I hope that would be an option, if one can provide proof that it should be unlocked. I know nothing of how hard it would to do so.

nimander99

To level Mages Guild you have to find all the Mages Guild Lorebooks. As for Fighters Guild, complete the Quest Line and you should hit 10...

Ampnode

nimander99 wrote: »

To level Mages Guild you have to find all the Mages Guild Lorebooks. As for Fighters Guild, complete the Quest Line and you should hit 10...

Just to clarify...

- You don't need every lorebook.
- Fighter's Guild/Mage's Guild quest line only gets you to level 5 in those skill lines. From that point on, you have to grind Daedra/undead and gather lorebooks(each regular book is 5 XP while Dwemer scrolls are 15 XP).

nimander99

Ampnode wrote: »

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nimander99 wrote: »

To level Mages Guild you have to find all the Mages Guild Lorebooks. As for Fighters Guild, complete the Quest Line and you should hit 10...

Just to clarify...

- You don't need every lorebook.
- Fighter's Guild/Mage's Guild quest line only gets you to level 5 in those skill lines. From that point on, you have to grind Daedra/undead and gather lorebooks(each regular book is 5 XP while Dwemer scrolls are 15 XP).

I also forgot, to max Fighters Guild rehunt all the random Daedra Spawns that are close to your level, there are a couple in every zone and they re spawn everytime you leave and re enter the zone, that's how I completed Fighters Guild.

And you do have to collect every Mages Guild book. Now the other lorebooks are different, the ones you find in dungeons those don't apply.

I don't think every regular daedra and undead level Fighter's Guild, I believe it is only the quests and the portals and anchors... but I could be wrong on that and @Ampnode could be right.

Mcwoods55

Yea. I've been level 10 in both of them for quite some time now.

dlepi24

nimander99 wrote: »

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Ampnode wrote: »

nimander99 wrote: »

To level Mages Guild you have to find all the Mages Guild Lorebooks. As for Fighters Guild, complete the Quest Line and you should hit 10...

Just to clarify...

- You don't need every lorebook.
- Fighter's Guild/Mage's Guild quest line only gets you to level 5 in those skill lines. From that point on, you have to grind Daedra/undead and gather lorebooks(each regular book is 5 XP while Dwemer scrolls are 15 XP).

I also forgot, to max Fighters Guild rehunt all the random Daedra Spawns that are close to your level, there are a couple in every zone and they re spawn everytime you leave and re enter the zone, that's how I completed Fighters Guild.

And you do have to collect every Mages Guild book. Now the other lorebooks are different, the ones you find in dungeons those don't apply.

I don't think every regular daedra and undead level Fighter's Guild, I believe it is only the quests and the portals and anchors... but I could be wrong on that and @Ampnode could be right.

I've gone back on multiple v16's to Coldharbour to a particular grind spot and have leveled it up on level 40ish mobs. The spot is over by the "Vile Laboratory" I believe it's called. Toward the bottom right of the map.

It's pretty crazy though that so many people have this issue and they haven't responded to any of you. Has to be frustrating.

AllPlayAndNoWork

Bramir wrote: »

Pretty sure I am having the same issue getting from 9 to 10 in the Mages guild...

Collect lore books.... easiest way to get to 10.

WalkingLegacy

johu31 wrote: »

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WalkingLegacy wrote: »

If they can't fix the bug how hard would it be for them to just unlock it via their client on their server?

Apparently too hard for this team. Embarrassing.

I hope that would be an option, if one can provide proof that it should be unlocked. I know nothing of how hard it would to do so.

They can do anything with their game. It's what tools they provide themselves to be able to do it.

Other games out there can reward you with the loot off a boss if the server crashes or kicks you after you killed it but haven't quite looted. Or if you accidently deleted an item....I mean they do this all automagically....

Sure it took them a couple years to build their tools to do this but it is possible. No excuses for a current next gen game.

demendred

And you're surprised by this? You start the game yesterday, boy?

Pyr0xyrecuprotite

nimander99 wrote: »

To level Mages Guild you have to find all the Mages Guild Lorebooks.

Um no... For Mage Guild (assuming you don't hit whatever bug some people are having), you need to find as many of the Mages Guild Lorebooks (which glow blue-ish/purple) as all of them in your faction's zones, PLUS those in about three zone's worth of books in Cadwell's Silver. Cyrodiil also has some lorebooks, but not enough to level you up to 10; you need to go into Cadwell's Silver at minimum to get enough lorebooks.

You don't need to find ALL of the lorebooks in your factions main five zones (there are none in the starter Island areas), but then you will need to find more in the Cadwell's Silver/Gold zones to get enough "mage guild lore", with each book worth 5 "xp". The "Lorebooks" addon helps a lot (for PC users).

Note: I think it was in the Imperial City DLC, the client changed and gave a "Lorebook discovered" message popup for ANY book that you read for the first time. My understanding though is that this was cosmetic and did not indicate progress towards levelling Mage Guild, if the books are ordinary non-blue books (or scrolls).

Toc de Malsvi

Mages guild progression is entirely based on reading a set amount of lorebooks and completing the sets, its not hard you can look up maps to where they spawn and look at your own achievements so see which sets are incomplete.

Fighters guild is a bit trickier but I found that simply completing all the dolmens while killing any and all daedra along the way was enough. It does seem that some undead do not count towards it, and new dolmens give much more than ones you've already done before.

Toc de Malsvi

Toc de Malsvi wrote: »

Mages guild progression is entirely based on reading a set amount of lorebooks and completing the sets, its not hard you can look up maps to where they spawn and look at your own achievements so see which sets are incomplete.

Fighters guild is a bit trickier but I found that simply completing all the dolmens while killing any and all daedra along the way was enough. It does seem that some undead do not count towards it, and new dolmens give much more than ones you've already done before.

I forgot to mention I also did all the delves and somewhere along the way I hit it on all my toons, the only one that seems to have "stopped" progressing in the fighters guild is the only toon where I skipped doing all the delves and dolmens.

Fasold666

demendred wrote: »

And you're surprised by this? You start the game yesterday, boy?

Playing the game since beta. And no, I am not really surprised. I think 'disappointed' describes it better since the development team and the customer support did a way better job in the beginning of the game. I knew that it wouldn't stay like that but didn't know that they would be that overstrained with all the bugs that are currently in the game. It feels like it changed when they were firing many of their employees and when the game went b2p. Especially gamebreaking bugs and the lags, which have a huge negative impact on the customers gaming experience, should be their number 1 priority. But it feels like it isn't.
And to be honest, I feel pretty dumb that I still have a subscription and stick money up their...

All in all, it is very embarassing that we didn't even get a response on that topic yet. The only response we got is from the customer support (after some months I contacted them) that they noticed the bug and are working on it. Sure, how much more time do you need for it? Another half a year?

DHale

No ETA for looking into it, no ETA for acknowledging it, no ETA in for a fix. You will be able to buy fighters guild 10 in crown store... Soon! Only 5000 crowns. Meanwhile don't kill undead or deadra.

johu31

At this point I would pay 5000 crowns for dawnbreaker and the last passive I need.

WalkingLegacy

johu31 wrote: »

At this point I would pay 5000 crowns for dawnbreaker and the last passive I need.

Why would you reward their failure?

johu31

Because I am weak! And really would like to have it one way or the other

ZOS_JessicaFolsom

Hi everyone,

Apologies for not getting you an update on this issue before now. This issue requires a code fix, which is why we haven’t hotfixed it (it’s not hotfixable.) We have a fix we’re currently testing, and plan to roll out in a future patch. We’ll be able to provide you with a more specific timeline in the next few weeks.

KanedaSyndrome

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Hi everyone,

Apologies for not getting you an update on this issue before now. This issue requires a code fix, which is why we haven’t hotfixed it (it’s not hotfixable.) We have a fix we’re currently testing, and plan to roll out in a future patch. We’ll be able to provide you with a more specific timeline in the next few weeks.

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom So what you're saying is that you have outsourced all development to an external bureau, such that you can't edit code yourselves?

Enodoc

KanedaSyndrome wrote: »

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ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Hi everyone,

Apologies for not getting you an update on this issue before now. This issue requires a code fix, which is why we haven’t hotfixed it (it’s not hotfixable.) We have a fix we’re currently testing, and plan to roll out in a future patch. We’ll be able to provide you with a more specific timeline in the next few weeks.

ZOS_JessicaFolsom So what you're saying is that you have outsourced all development to an external bureau, such that you can't edit code yourselves?

However did you come up with that? Jess said it's a code fix, not that they can't fix code.

gen_reynard2050

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Hi everyone,

Apologies for not getting you an update on this issue before now. This issue requires a code fix, which is why we haven’t hotfixed it (it’s not hotfixable.) We have a fix we’re currently testing, and plan to roll out in a future patch. We’ll be able to provide you with a more specific timeline in the next few weeks.

if after FIX... and previously we have collected all lore books/or kill the undead.. will we get the experience?