Why Trials are becoming a thing of the past.

Shadesofkin

Hiero_Glyph wrote: »

On a side note, if ZOS made a Cadwell's Platinum that was open world and all of Tamriel was scaled up to v16 it would truly be an end-game environment. Remove any alliance restrictions, let players do repeatable quests and add in all trophy drops and you have a place where players could go anywhere and do almost anything. Now add in the justice system and you have open world PvP that is entirely optional. Want to finish previous story quests, just go back to the Harborage and port to Cadwell's Gold where everything has a preset level. It would really make Tamriel the open world environment it deserves to become (and it would support vet rank increases or removal).

I remain adamantly opposed to open world PvP, but I tend to feel this would be a solution, maybe not my preferred one, but certainly a good one.

Moonshadow66

I've never done any of the trials, even most of the group dungeons I've never seen from inside. I always wanted to, but I haven't because of, well.. reasons.
Too bad to see people don't want to do them anymore now.

Shadesofkin

Moonshadow66 wrote: »

I've never done any of the trials, even most of the group dungeons I've never seen from inside. I always wanted to, but I haven't because of, well.. reasons.
Too bad to see people don't want to do them anymore now.

M4D Went from running 2 a week plus leader board run to running 1 a week usually cancelling that one for lack of players, and running a weekly attempt at leader board (sometimes having to cancel that too).

I don't know about the others, but my other guild Sheogoraths Mortals lost a bunch of interested trial players and even interest in doing group dungeons has waned.

Garion

I am not a PvEr, but I really do wonder why they don't just scale them up. It can't be that difficult, can it? DLC should be providing additional content, not making previous content obsolete...

Meshal

i dont know how they managed to make this game as it is now the worst game ever. they should be ashamed of themselves, and who ever made those decisions in this update should be fired immediately.

most of my friends haven't been online a week after IC hit, that's how bad this dlc is!!

1- increasing vet rank = all trials and leaderboard are now obsolete.
2- added so much mobs grinding for absolutely no reason!
3- making everything you want to do in this game requires mobs grinding = crafting, sets, etc...

there was actually a meeting yesterday with the guild i am a member in, we were discussing what should we do! because we're so much struggling in making a group to do anything with the guild. eventually we were discussing other games to play all together because there isnt much to do in this game anymore except mobs grinding!


i already unsubbed to the game, because at this rate, it's so obvious they're going to screw orsinium up too/

SirDopey

Yeah I agree, trials need to be dropping some V16 gear to remain relevant. Though, if they did that with the last patch, every man and his dog that did copious amounts of trials to get his/her V14 gold rings would be on here crying about how they worked so hard and now their gear is irrelevant.....

SeptimusDova

This cannot continue. They will fix this they have to they just.. Have to. It is wrong a good deal of content that people and Khajiit liked to do is now not worth the rewards. It is sad.

Oreyn_Bearclaw

We actually resorted to Zone pugging last night on a causal AA run. Decided to do hardmode at last minute because DPS was surprisingly good. Ended up with top EP score (5th overall in NA). Not posting to brag, just to show that clearly nobody cares about trials anymore if that kind of run is competitive. It's probably because the loot is garbage, and nobody seems to be pushing leaderboards anymore. We need a new trial...

dlepi24

Because they came out a year ago...

I do agree that there needs to be some kind of "raid" that's competitive, though.

SirJesto

I left the game for 9 months and came back about a month ago. I have never completed a trial and would've loved a master weapon. I'd love one now, but it doesn't look like I will EVER be able to get one.

Korah_Eaglecry

Or maybe theyve got a lot that they want to add to the game and Trials and those who run those just have to wait their turn again?

Oreyn_Bearclaw

SirJesto wrote: »

I left the game for 9 months and came back about a month ago. I have never completed a trial and would've loved a master weapon. I'd love one now, but it doesn't look like I will EVER be able to get one.

If it makes you feel any better, they are all useless at this point. The increased weapon/spell damage from a normal V16 weapon trumps just about any bonus you would get from a V14 master weapon. To this day, I have 4 masters weapons after countless DSA/VDSA runs, 1 dagger and 3 frost staffs, all with defending trait. I have never even equipped one. Go RNG!

If you read between the lines, it sounds like there will be v16 versions in the next update. They said something along the lines of "some of the finest weapons in tamriel" when discussing rewards for the new 1 man arenas, but of course, its all speculation.

Trashkan

All these cry for help ZOS please listen I would of put the game down 6 months ago if it were not for trials. It really brings guilds together with teamwork and just plain fun trials brings pve to a whole new level.

DerpyShadowz

Max2497 wrote: »

All they would really need to do is to give gold versions of the agility, willpower, and endurance jewelry a small chance to drop in leaderboard rewards. Trials would be booming again.

FadedJeans

We still casually do trials every week. It's a lot of fun.

Looking forward to the next new one, going to enjoy all the new content in the meantime. Still enjoying Imperial City, too! Don't have Vet WGT or IP down cold yet.

I agree, it would be great if you could scale the existing trials to the group leader, trials and loot. More people could be introduced to them at lower levels, and more loot-mongers would come back to grind them.

Meanwhile, I'll keep doing them with my guildies because they're FUN.

Sausage

Too much content especially group-content and too little people. They need effective group-finder. My suggestion is that people can put requests, everyone sees it on their UI, people get rewarded if they help, so every player jump to it when they see one. That should take care of it once for all. I can only imagine how bad its for new players, all those dolmens, world bosses and public dungeons, this could work for them too.

NewBlacksmurf

IF and when Trials are default and added to the grouping tools without the phasing quest progression issues, these could be a good thing for some.

It seems to me that ZOS is working on a future Trial and perhaps this will be included in the Grouping Tools updates.....

IMO, people don't do them cause they don't realize they exist or the other reality is that it takes a lot to gather enough ppl but the rewards aren't drastic enough to warrant the effort

Addihul

People know about the trials. Unless you're new to the game in the past few months, anyone who's ever been to Craglorn would have seen the constantly forming pug trial groups.. At least on the NA side. It was a glorious thing. Rando strangers banning together by some brave raid leader.. running trials over and over to tackle achievements and gather (at one point) strong gear. That is absolutely gone now.

In contrast, you can not PUG vet WGT and ICP. People who run it together frequently of course can whip through them now, but they are still a 'challenge' to the best PvEers. But there's no 'rally the troops' mentality like there used to be with the 12 man raids. There simply isn't the incentive. The only reason we run trials is because we love the atmosphere and group synergy.. (aaandnd we keep trying to out-do Beyond Infinity for world number 1).

Most def needs some love in the rewards department. A lot can be done to improve things here. Very simple things..

Rook_Master

Hiero_Glyph wrote: »

On a side note, if ZOS made a Cadwell's Platinum that was open world and all of Tamriel was scaled up to v16 it would truly be an end-game environment. Remove any alliance restrictions, let players do repeatable quests and add in all trophy drops and you have a place where players could go anywhere and do almost anything. Now add in the justice system and you have open world PvP that is entirely optional. Want to finish previous story quests, just go back to the Harborage and port to Cadwell's Gold where everything has a preset level. It would really make Tamriel the open world environment it deserves to become (and it would support vet rank increases or removal).

Oh my god I want this so bad.