What should the first CP cap be?

robkrush

Other

Xeven wrote: »

robkrush wrote: »

I'm not a scrub so I can clearly see that CP is not an issue. Lazy druggie gamers, that's an issue.

I used to think that way back when CP was relatively low. A few days ago I fought a terrible player with 1200 CP. I was enlightened by the experience. Thats 1200 CP. Lets talk about what 600 CP buys you.

+24% Damage Done, +24% Regen, -24% Damage Taken, -24% Ability Cost. This is insignificant in your "engineering" mind right? Go back to school.

Just because these scrubs can play 10 more games of chess than you or I can each day, doesn't mean they should start each game with 4 queens.

All they are doing is AOEing NPCs all day with EXP pots. Why should that be rewarded in PvP?

No no no. Your are assuming everything else is completely equal. CP is one part of the equation. If two people are wearing the same gear, eat the same food, use the same skills, then the guy with 1200 CP will probably win unless he makes a mistake. That's life, get used to it. If you want to beat a 1200 CP guy then make sure you have tri food, tri pots, and the best grear you can come up with. Use skills to counter or mitigate good players best moves. Play smart. Try to strike first. The other guy may have more CP but that doesn't stop you from being superior in some other way.

What I'm saying is that CP is just a part of the game and not even the biggest part. Your gear is much more important; Id say at least 50% of the equatiion. Saying CP ruins cyrodiil is just as true as saying food and potions and gear ruin cyrodiil. My food buffs my magicks by 33%, my stam by 16%, and my health by 12%. My potions restore 20% of my my stam, increase its recovery by 20%, and increase my weapon power by 20%. There is a bunch of crazy strong stuff in this game you can do to counter someone with high CP.

Of course there are gonna be guys out there with 600 cp, and great gear, and great food, and great potions. To answer your question above, yes, they deserve to be powerful. That's their reward for their work. It's our job to better ourselves and take them down.

There was a poll a while back about whether cp effects cyrodiil. It was split pretty closet to 50/50. I hope my explainable above helps you and many others see where the other 50% of us are coming from. Plus, why waste dev time on something that aint broke. Seriously.

ssewallb14_ESO

600

Cuyler wrote: »

Xeven wrote: »

^ Mothers basement crew checking in.

Way off.....maybe you're just feeling entitled to "competitiveness" or a "power level" you didn't work towards? The reality is I'm a successful engineer who works hard for everything I have including CPs. My opinion is to not ask for hands outs or for a trophy for just showing up to try-outs.

I'm not sure what your problem is with a CP cap if this is the case. You can just put your hard work into your skill as a player. You get an advantage over other players because you have better understanding of your class, more experience, better reflexes, etc. You're better because you yourself are a better player.




...it couldn't be that it's just way easier to grind zombies for 100s of hours to get a raw stat advantage, could it?

Akrasjel

Less than 300

1337

Kleptobrainiac

Other

2

CP5

Other

8

beamy93

robkrush wrote: »

Xeven wrote: »

robkrush wrote: »

I'm not a scrub so I can clearly see that CP is not an issue. Lazy druggie gamers, that's an issue.

I used to think that way back when CP was relatively low. A few days ago I fought a terrible player with 1200 CP. I was enlightened by the experience. Thats 1200 CP. Lets talk about what 600 CP buys you.

+24% Damage Done, +24% Regen, -24% Damage Taken, -24% Ability Cost. This is insignificant in your "engineering" mind right? Go back to school.

Just because these scrubs can play 10 more games of chess than you or I can each day, doesn't mean they should start each game with 4 queens.

All they are doing is AOEing NPCs all day with EXP pots. Why should that be rewarded in PvP?

No no no. Your are assuming everything else is completely equal. CP is one part of the equation. If two people are wearing the same gear, eat the same food, use the same skills, then the guy with 1200 CP will probably win unless he makes a mistake. That's life, get used to it. If you want to beat a 1200 CP guy then make sure you have tri food, tri pots, and the best grear you can come up with. Use skills to counter or mitigate good players best moves. Play smart. Try to strike first. The other guy may have more CP but that doesn't stop you from being superior in some other way.

What I'm saying is that CP is just a part of the game and not even the biggest part. Your gear is much more important; Id say at least 50% of the equatiion. Saying CP ruins cyrodiil is just as true as saying food and potions and gear ruin cyrodiil. My food buffs my magicks by 33%, my stam by 16%, and my health by 12%. My potions restore 20% of my my stam, increase its recovery by 20%, and increase my weapon power by 20%. There is a bunch of crazy strong stuff in this game you can do to counter someone with high CP.

Of course there are gonna be guys out there with 600 cp, and great gear, and great food, and great potions. To answer your question above, yes, they deserve to be powerful. That's their reward for their work. It's our job to better ourselves and take them down.

There was a poll a while back about whether cp effects cyrodiil. It was split pretty closet to 50/50. I hope my explainable above helps you and many others see where the other 50% of us are coming from. Plus, why waste dev time on something that aint broke. Seriously.

These people claiming to be engineers are hurting my head. I hope they haven't been involved in any bridges i use or any addons for eso.

Obviously if someone has enough time and motivation to accumulate 1200 CP, they will have the endgame gear, potions, etc any casual everyday player will be using. And to say someone with 2 to 10 times as many CP as someone else doesn't have a clear advantage is just ignorant.

All this 'crazy strong stuff' (what you call food/drinks and potions, i guess) everyday players already use. The major difference between the everyday casual player and 'basement dwellers' is not the easily obtainable endgame elite gear or max level, but the double to tenfold difference in CP.

NewBlacksmurf

Other

There really doesn't need to be a CP cap at all.
This topic keeps coming up and many times it's a PvP concern.

Deal with the issue and remove CP from PvP....creating caps and stuff is just silly

Teridaxus

Other

The amount which i have when the cap comes^^

Nifty2g

600

500 - 600

Kronuxx

Less than 300

beamy93 wrote: »

robkrush wrote: »

Xeven wrote: »

robkrush wrote: »

I'm not a scrub so I can clearly see that CP is not an issue. Lazy druggie gamers, that's an issue.

I used to think that way back when CP was relatively low. A few days ago I fought a terrible player with 1200 CP. I was enlightened by the experience. Thats 1200 CP. Lets talk about what 600 CP buys you.

+24% Damage Done, +24% Regen, -24% Damage Taken, -24% Ability Cost. This is insignificant in your "engineering" mind right? Go back to school.

Just because these scrubs can play 10 more games of chess than you or I can each day, doesn't mean they should start each game with 4 queens.

All they are doing is AOEing NPCs all day with EXP pots. Why should that be rewarded in PvP?

No no no. Your are assuming everything else is completely equal. CP is one part of the equation. If two people are wearing the same gear, eat the same food, use the same skills, then the guy with 1200 CP will probably win unless he makes a mistake. That's life, get used to it. If you want to beat a 1200 CP guy then make sure you have tri food, tri pots, and the best grear you can come up with. Use skills to counter or mitigate good players best moves. Play smart. Try to strike first. The other guy may have more CP but that doesn't stop you from being superior in some other way.

What I'm saying is that CP is just a part of the game and not even the biggest part. Your gear is much more important; Id say at least 50% of the equatiion. Saying CP ruins cyrodiil is just as true as saying food and potions and gear ruin cyrodiil. My food buffs my magicks by 33%, my stam by 16%, and my health by 12%. My potions restore 20% of my my stam, increase its recovery by 20%, and increase my weapon power by 20%. There is a bunch of crazy strong stuff in this game you can do to counter someone with high CP.

Of course there are gonna be guys out there with 600 cp, and great gear, and great food, and great potions. To answer your question above, yes, they deserve to be powerful. That's their reward for their work. It's our job to better ourselves and take them down.

There was a poll a while back about whether cp effects cyrodiil. It was split pretty closet to 50/50. I hope my explainable above helps you and many others see where the other 50% of us are coming from. Plus, why waste dev time on something that aint broke. Seriously.

These people claiming to be engineers are hurting my head. I hope they haven't been involved in any bridges i use or any addons for eso.

Obviously if someone has enough time and motivation to accumulate 1200 CP, they will have the endgame gear, potions, etc any casual everyday player will be using. And to say someone with 2 to 10 times as many CP as someone else doesn't have a clear advantage is just ignorant.

All this 'crazy strong stuff' (what you call food/drinks and potions, i guess) everyday players already use. The major difference between the everyday casual player and 'basement dwellers' is not the easily obtainable endgame elite gear or max level, but the double to tenfold difference in CP.

What he said. Cp makes a difference

Yolokin_Swagonborn

The cap should be 0. At least in PvP. Let the carebears solo group content so they can feel powerful.

Makkir

I don't think there should be a cap. Handouts and programs like this are what got our country this way in the first place

Van_0S

BugCollector wrote: »

As in title.

Are they really going to implemented this?
Then we can kick kiss good bye to ESO for good.

Personofsecrets

450

Morimizo wrote: »

I firmly believe that any cap should only affect PVP. Let everyone accumulate as many CP's as they want to use for PVE.

cp is still a big contetion in pve. there are leader boards you know

ADarklore

600

I think this is a fair target, it won't allow ALL passive selection so players will have to make decisions about which to select but at the same time will allow the majority of players enough room to continue building their CP for quite some time.

bertenburnyb16_ESO

300

played every day, got 70 with Cp system release, only have about 233 now, so euh, 300cap is more than enough for me xd

edit: stop the hatin on pvp players Zos