Do i lack survivability or is a VR14 in IC weak against mobs

Conquers

Here is my build:
DK medium armor, 27 health 40 stamina i think (not at my ps4 atm),enchants are mostly health, with a few stam and a magica
2hand: flawless dawnbreaker, rally, uppercut, critical rush, reverse slash, brawler (was this nerfed? i had used it a week ago and the shield filled my healthbar, respecced and now it does 15% of my health as shield if i hit 3-4 enemies.
Bow: snipe, poison, the knockback from bow, fire arrow aoe, and green dragonblood. Meteor

i am to be a pure dps with survivability, but these IC mobs i cannot take on 3 at once alone, or else i die very quickly to a spell cast or something. one time last night a single mob killed me by spamming cleave, hitting 8k 5 times in just seconds

Alucardo

All shields took a major nerf and GDB is pretty much useless in Cyrodiil now

Conquers

Alucardo wrote: »

All shields took a major nerf and GDB is pretty much useless in Cyrodiil now

Is there anything better than GDB i could use then, i need something to self heal, as rally needs 5 seconds of uptime to even be relevant, and these mobs bring me down 60% health in 1 hit so i need a heal to spam other than potions (which i actually resorted to a potion that restores all 3 attributes at once and still isnt enough

Junglejim82

Conquers wrote: »

Alucardo wrote: »

All shields took a major nerf and GDB is pretty much useless in Cyrodiil now

Is there anything better than GDB i could use then, i need something to self heal, as rally needs 5 seconds of uptime to even be relevant, and these mobs bring me down 60% health in 1 hit so i need a heal to spam other than potions (which i actually resorted to a potion that restores all 3 attributes at once and still isnt enough

Rally should be kept active so it's always ready for use. Vigor is a nice option

Alucardo

Conquers wrote: »

Is there anything better than GDB i could use then, i need something to self heal, as rally needs 5 seconds of uptime to even be relevant, and these mobs bring me down 60% health in 1 hit so i need a heal to spam other than potions (which i actually resorted to a potion that restores all 3 attributes at once and still isnt enough

Vigor was moved to rank 5 in Alliance, so it's a lot easier to obtain. I'm replacing my DB with that. With Vigor and Rally you should be apples.

Alucardo

Yeah, I should have mentioned to always keep Rally active, even before you get into a fight. Because these baddies hit hard, you want rally ready to proc for that burst heal when you start getting hit. Vigor will be there healing you between. I'm not saying you'll find it easy with these spells, but they will help more than a weak shield that has become even weaker since the update.

Conquers

Vigor seems good, but it isnt instant, and sometimes you need that instantaneous heal when a single screw up (yes, L2P but sometimes a single spell hits you) costs 90% health and you dont have time for that HoT, unless it changed and i just looked up an old description (im not at the ps4 atm so i cant see the skill tree)

leepalmer95

Conquers wrote: »

Here is my build:
DK medium armor, 27 health 40 stamina i think (not at my ps4 atm),enchants are mostly health, with a few stam and a magica
2hand: flawless dawnbreaker, rally, uppercut, critical rush, reverse slash, brawler (was this nerfed? i had used it a week ago and the shield filled my healthbar, respecced and now it does 15% of my health as shield if i hit 3-4 enemies.
Bow: snipe, poison, the knockback from bow, fire arrow aoe, and green dragonblood. Meteor

i am to be a pure dps with survivability, but these IC mobs i cannot take on 3 at once alone, or else i die very quickly to a spell cast or something. one time last night a single mob killed me by spamming cleave, hitting 8k 5 times in just seconds

You can't treat the IC mobs as silver/gold mobs were you can spam 1 ability and kill everything. They are an actual threat.

Cc them, snares are good for keeping space, bit of aoe is useful, executions are really good. etc..

Conquers

leepalmer95 wrote: »

Conquers wrote: »

Here is my build:
DK medium armor, 27 health 40 stamina i think (not at my ps4 atm),enchants are mostly health, with a few stam and a magica
2hand: flawless dawnbreaker, rally, uppercut, critical rush, reverse slash, brawler (was this nerfed? i had used it a week ago and the shield filled my healthbar, respecced and now it does 15% of my health as shield if i hit 3-4 enemies.
Bow: snipe, poison, the knockback from bow, fire arrow aoe, and green dragonblood. Meteor

i am to be a pure dps with survivability, but these IC mobs i cannot take on 3 at once alone, or else i die very quickly to a spell cast or something. one time last night a single mob killed me by spamming cleave, hitting 8k 5 times in just seconds

You can't treat the IC mobs as silver/gold mobs were you can spam 1 ability and kill everything. They are an actual threat.

Cc them, snares are good for keeping space, bit of aoe is useful, executions are really good. etc..

90% of the time, the melee are not a problem, and if they are its the elite mobs that deal 10k a hit and are immune to cc. its always the mages that f me over

leepalmer95

Conquers wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

Conquers wrote: »

Here is my build:
DK medium armor, 27 health 40 stamina i think (not at my ps4 atm),enchants are mostly health, with a few stam and a magica
2hand: flawless dawnbreaker, rally, uppercut, critical rush, reverse slash, brawler (was this nerfed? i had used it a week ago and the shield filled my healthbar, respecced and now it does 15% of my health as shield if i hit 3-4 enemies.
Bow: snipe, poison, the knockback from bow, fire arrow aoe, and green dragonblood. Meteor

i am to be a pure dps with survivability, but these IC mobs i cannot take on 3 at once alone, or else i die very quickly to a spell cast or something. one time last night a single mob killed me by spamming cleave, hitting 8k 5 times in just seconds

You can't treat the IC mobs as silver/gold mobs were you can spam 1 ability and kill everything. They are an actual threat.

Cc them, snares are good for keeping space, bit of aoe is useful, executions are really good. etc..

90% of the time, the melee are not a problem, and if they are its the elite mobs that deal 10k a hit and are immune to cc. its always the mages that f me over

Your a dk right? use wings, the reflected projectile will do more dmg than you do.

Also time your dodge rolls, put some sort of snare down and gap close the ranged attacker and dps them down fast.

Alucardo

Conquers wrote: »

its always the mages that f me over

Use wings and send that magic right back at them

Conquers

yeah i guess a l2p i need is to actually utilize my reflect....lol

Alucardo

Conquers wrote: »

yeah i guess a l2p i need is to actually utilize my reflect....lol

I've only just started using it more. which I should have done a long time ago. Literally killed a sorc yesterday who kept throwing frags and reach at me. It was hilarious. I have however switched to defensive stance just because I don't have to reapply it every few seconds if I don't get hit, plus it costs stamina and very little of it. But I guess in the sewers wings might be more beneficial if you're getting shot at from everywhere.

Brrrofski

Yeh man, get those wings going.

Ridiculously helpful.

They're invaluable against sorcs too.

I love fighting sorcs as a DK. I hate fighting DKs as a sorc.

MmmmTofu

I die alot with my low-VR DK, couldn't take on 3 regular mobs, until I started flapping my wings

Waffennacht

I love facing DKs with my sorc. I killed so many two nights ago I got the DK slayer achievement... i saw a lot of wings, too bad i only have one target ability slotted lol

Point being: just remember to watch out! A poorly timed reflect can result in you dying... sometimes its like that boss knows you just put that up...

Alucardo

Waffennacht wrote: »

I love facing DKs with my sorc. I killed so many two nights ago I got the DK slayer achievement...

Doesn't really mean much. I actually hate fighting against Nightblades more than Sorcs and received the Nightblade slayer achievement. I've found sorcs easier to kill than NBs, but I'm unable to get that achievement because they bolt away before death.

Stannum

I tried to play stamina sorc at vr3 in IC, it was not as easy as vr15 NB but still quite playable. I could wipe 3 mobs groups even with mini-bosses and survive. The most problem were groups with 2 healers or with mini-boss healer.

Blackfirehawk

ZOS wants you to zerk around with 30 other players.

Prabooo

Blackfirehawk wrote: »

ZOS wants you to zerk around with 30 other players.

I disagree, it all depends on the combination of the right armor, a good set of ofensive/defensive skills, attributes, pots, etc... and of course, how you dance in battle