new true stamina class

barbarian340

the classes currently focus on magicka, with a couple stamina morphs...we need a dedicated stamina class, that has one or 2 magicka morphs...it can be a gadgets/trickster class that uses things like bombs, etc to do damage, then second as a tank...

as it stands now, to do stamina, you usually have to use weapons...whereas all the classes can go magicka purely off class skills

Moonshadow66

barbarian340 wrote: »

the classes currently focus on magicka, with a couple stamina morphs...we need a dedicated stamina class, that has one or 2 magicka morphs...it can be a gadgets/trickster class that uses things like bombs, etc to do damage, then second as a tank...

as it stands now, to do stamina, you usually have to use weapons...whereas all the classes can go magicka purely off class skills

This. I got nothing to add, you said it all

Master_Kas

Also physical ultimate would be needed. Currently dks leap is the only physical ultimate.

For example nbs deathstroke/soulharvest scales way better with cp into increase magic damage than mighty... A melee range ability which looks like a blade-attack . ..

Avonna

too much depends on stamina , they need to break it up . roll dodge, block , and breakfree should really be its own resource. and stamina for skills just like magicka.

if it stays like this , then give players a choice what resource each skill uses. choose your morph, then choose your resource.

barbarian340

Master_Kas wrote: »

Also physical ultimate would be needed. Currently dks leap is the only physical ultimate.

For example nbs deathstroke/soulharvest scales way better with cp into increase magic damage than mighty... A melee range ability which looks like a blade-attack . ..

sounds awesome...hopefully this can pick up some steam, and the devs can see this is something a lot of us want

barbarian340

Avonna wrote: »

too much depends on stamina , they need to break it up . roll dodge, block , and breakfree should really be its own resource. and stamina for skills just like magicka.

if it stays like this , then give players a choice what resource each skill uses. choose your morph, then choose your resource.

great point...ive always said that...needless to say, if they make a stamina class, there will be PLENTY built in resource management not just in the skills, but the passives also

Avonna

@ about it, seriously asking. you would have to make duplicates of all the classes. one magicka sorc, one stamina sorc.....etc.

what if all class skills/weapon skills used magicka to use, and stamina is used just for roll,dodge, and break free? with option to increase that resource like magicka. so it would be how you spent your points. but then it might turn out that everyone does exactly the same damage.....hmmmm

Soulshine

barbarian340 wrote: »

Master_Kas wrote: »

Also physical ultimate would be needed. Currently dks leap is the only physical ultimate.

For example nbs deathstroke/soulharvest scales way better with cp into increase magic damage than mighty... A melee range ability which looks like a blade-attack . ..

sounds awesome...hopefully this can pick up some steam, and the devs can see this is something a lot of us want

The "steam" behind this complaint/request, whatever you wish to label it, is not new and has been around since the first rounds of beta.

ZoS has not budged an inch in the direction of stamina based class skills, save for the occasional morphs now available.

Players learning to maximize the stamina trees in game already available to them, complimented by the magicka skills they can add to the mix, remains the dev WAI philosophy.... in other words, I wouldn't hold my breath.

jelliedsoup

I'm disappointed to have found his have reverted to their hugely flawed design of preferring class skills.

leepalmer95

stamina has 4 weapon skill tree's to chose from.

Magicka has the desto staff and a healing staff.

Tonturri

leepalmer95 wrote: »

stamina has 4 weapon skill tree's to chose from.

Magicka has the desto staff and a healing staff.

And 12 skill trees across four classes, minus a small amount of abilities that have stamina morphs.

barbarian340

Avonna wrote: »

@ about it, seriously asking. you would have to make duplicates of all the classes. one magicka sorc, one stamina sorc.....etc.

what if all class skills/weapon skills used magicka to use, and stamina is used just for roll,dodge, and break free? with option to increase that resource like magicka. so it would be how you spent your points. but then it might turn out that everyone does exactly the same damage.....hmmmm

no matter what they choose to do, we need more classes, so making stamina classes would be the best thing...even if some ppl complain, most agree we do need more classes...and a stamina class would be a very welcome change

barbarian340

Soulshine wrote: »

barbarian340 wrote: »

Master_Kas wrote: »

Also physical ultimate would be needed. Currently dks leap is the only physical ultimate.

For example nbs deathstroke/soulharvest scales way better with cp into increase magic damage than mighty... A melee range ability which looks like a blade-attack . ..

sounds awesome...hopefully this can pick up some steam, and the devs can see this is something a lot of us want

The "steam" behind this complaint/request, whatever you wish to label it, is not new and has been around since the first rounds of beta.

ZoS has not budged an inch in the direction of stamina based class skills, save for the occasional morphs now available.

Players learning to maximize the stamina trees in game already available to them, complimented by the magicka skills they can add to the mix, remains the dev WAI philosophy.... in other words, I wouldn't hold my breath.

to be fair, it's not as if they added a new class...so until they actually make a new stamina class, i think their way of compromise is stamina morphs

barbarian340

leepalmer95 wrote: »

stamina has 4 weapon skill tree's to chose from.

Magicka has the desto staff and a healing staff.

weapons are not classes...

Messy1

Awesome idea, I think that this would be an awesome way to introduce a new class and get more stamina builds into the game. Yeah, let's have a new class, why not sounds awesome

barbarian340

Messy1 wrote: »

Awesome idea, I think that this would be an awesome way to introduce a new class and get more stamina builds into the game. Yeah, let's have a new class, why not sounds awesome

thank you!

Ommamar

I agree that they should continue with class development or get rid of classes all together and let people go the path of using any skill in the class pool at the expense of another. As I recall there was original six classes pre-beta/beta but got shifted down to four.

I also hope that they continue developing morphs so after leveling a morph there is an option to add different utility choices to a skill.

Soulshine

barbarian340 wrote: »

Soulshine wrote: »

barbarian340 wrote: »

Master_Kas wrote: »

Also physical ultimate would be needed. Currently dks leap is the only physical ultimate.

For example nbs deathstroke/soulharvest scales way better with cp into increase magic damage than mighty... A melee range ability which looks like a blade-attack . ..

sounds awesome...hopefully this can pick up some steam, and the devs can see this is something a lot of us want

The "steam" behind this complaint/request, whatever you wish to label it, is not new and has been around since the first rounds of beta.

ZoS has not budged an inch in the direction of stamina based class skills, save for the occasional morphs now available.

Players learning to maximize the stamina trees in game already available to them, complimented by the magicka skills they can add to the mix, remains the dev WAI philosophy.... in other words, I wouldn't hold my breath.

to be fair, it's not as if they added a new class...so until they actually make a new stamina class, i think their way of compromise is stamina morphs

I wasn't pointing that out because I think we should have them. I am saying that it is not something that the developers have shown any interest in no matter how much QQ about it that there has been for well over two years. Stamina morphs were a bone. There are plenty of stamina lines in the game to make very strong builds, people are just set on insisting that stamina class skills are the answer to the shortcomings they find in the choices they make. I don't agree.

OrphanHelgen

barbarian340 wrote: »

the classes currently focus on magicka, with a couple stamina morphs...we need a dedicated stamina class, that has one or 2 magicka morphs...it can be a gadgets/trickster class that uses things like bombs, etc to do damage, then second as a tank...

as it stands now, to do stamina, you usually have to use weapons...whereas all the classes can go magicka purely off class skills

Then you need moar magicka weapons as currently 2 magicka weponnons versus 4 stamina GG

Thymos

Master_Kas wrote: »

Also physical ultimate would be needed. Currently dks leap is the only physical ultimate.

For example nbs deathstroke/soulharvest scales way better with cp into increase magic damage than mighty... A melee range ability which looks like a blade-attack . ..

Ultimates should actually scale off whatever is higher, physical damage or magical damage. So going stamina or magicka wouldn't be detrimental to your ultimate abilities.