Bring Back 1.5 - Ploxx

Poxheart

Ishammael wrote: »

Think of it this way: what if they had spent the last nine months (since March 1.6 roll out) adding things to cyrodiil and to pve rather than changing *** that didn't need to be fixed.

This can't be emphasized enough.

pjwb16_ESO

#BringBack 1.5
#BringBack 1.5
#BringBack 1.5
#BringBack 1.5

Yonkit

pjwb16_ESO wrote: »

#BringBack 1.5
#BringBack 1.5
#BringBack 1.5
#BringBack 1.5

I concur.

OGLezard

Yonkit wrote: »

OdinForge wrote: »

Yonkit wrote: »

Recremen wrote: »

Nah dude, I like being allowed to go stamina DK. Or, like, -anything- stamina. Though there's certainly been some things taken out that would be nice to see come back. I have no idea what your pot build is but sure man, go for it, let's have that again.

stamina was functional in 1.5.... very functional, just ask @xylena

Stamina was barely functional, it worked for Xylena, because DK. I ran a very similar stamina build to Xylena as a NB, but was forced into restoration staff off-hand with hybrid max stats. While the end result did fine, it was far from ideal. There are some new things I'd try in 1.5, with knowledge from today. But i doubt the end result would be any better.

There are some things i miss about 1.5, like stamina drain and sparks. I think 1.6 could have actually been the better patch, if ZOS didn't sleep on all the bugs and actually communicated to us better. If they would have adjusted penetration, nirn/spell resist, the CP system.

2.1 is a train-wreck, I'm sorry if people disagree on this. All i do in this game is PvP, but it's so boring now.

I don't want to sound like a jack wagon but the only people that benefit and enjoy the benefit of 2.1's patch are hardcore zerglings that just want to follow crown and use 2 skills

So no, nobody disagrees with you

I do recall steel tornado still being used by some people............and maybe the occasional extra skill in there........even when they are not in a zerg......just saying...its not just zerglings......

Yonkit

OGLezard wrote: »

I do recall steel tornado still being used by some people............and maybe the occasional extra skill in there........even when they are not in a zerg......just saying...its not just zerglings.......

Can't speak for the Kitten about that, he'll have to defend himself. But yea, I've noticed others doing it as well.

krim

Poxheart wrote: »

Ishammael wrote: »

Think of it this way: what if they had spent the last nine months (since March 1.6 roll out) adding things to cyrodiil and to pve rather than changing *** that didn't need to be fixed.

This can't be emphasized enough.

100%

Yonkit

krim wrote: »

Poxheart wrote: »

Ishammael wrote: »

Think of it this way: what if they had spent the last nine months (since March 1.6 roll out) adding things to cyrodiil and to pve rather than changing *** that didn't need to be fixed.

This can't be emphasized enough.

100%

Zenimax Online - "Fixing things that weren't broken since 1998."

Lava_Croft

Yonkit wrote: »

krim wrote: »

Poxheart wrote: »

Ishammael wrote: »

Think of it this way: what if they had spent the last nine months (since March 1.6 roll out) adding things to cyrodiil and to pve rather than changing *** that didn't need to be fixed.

This can't be emphasized enough.

100%

Zenimax Online - "Fixing things that weren't broken since 1998."

I have only one thing to say:

8 years of development time, no Reply button in the mail applet.

Yonkit

Lava_Croft wrote: »

Yonkit wrote: »

krim wrote: »

Poxheart wrote: »

Ishammael wrote: »

Think of it this way: what if they had spent the last nine months (since March 1.6 roll out) adding things to cyrodiil and to pve rather than changing *** that didn't need to be fixed.

This can't be emphasized enough.

100%

Zenimax Online - "Fixing things that weren't broken since 1998."

I have only one thing to say:

8 years of development time, no Reply button in the mail applet.

@Lava_Croft LMFAO I never even.... Omg.

bosmern_ESO

As someone who pretty much quit, please bring back 1.5

Killer808

Well I wasn't going to say anything on this but I felt compelled to do so... Its not that I want everything from 1.5 (i.e. purge bug, dark flare), its just that I want the ultimate gain back and this is why. Ever since the change in ulti gain it pays for you to be in a bigger group of *** players than a smaller group of more skilled players. Everyone gains ulti the same whether their in a 4 man or a 24 man and thats not fun for the 4 man. With the ulti gain in 1.5 you could crit on multiple people and drop your ultimate on the zergs face and watch them melt because they couldnt gain ultimate as fast as you AS IT SHOULD BE! If your outnumbered 4-1, I feel like you should at least have your ultimate gain adjusted to 4-1 to discourage bads from running balled up in a 40 man.....or at least give you a fighting chance... doesnt this sound reasonable?

Yonkit

Killer808 wrote: »

Well I wasn't going to say anything on this but I felt compelled to do so... Its not that I want everything from 1.5 (i.e. purge bug, dark flare), its just that I want the ultimate gain back and this is why. Ever since the change in ulti gain it pays for you to be in a bigger group of *** players than a smaller group of more skilled players. Everyone gains ulti the same whether their in a 4 man or a 24 man and thats not fun for the 4 man. With the ulti gain in 1.5 you could crit on multiple people and drop your ultimate on the zergs face and watch them melt because they couldnt gain ultimate as fast as you AS IT SHOULD BE! If your outnumbered 4-1, I feel like you should at least have your ultimate gain adjusted to 4-1 to discourage bads from running balled up in a 40 man.....or at least give you a fighting chance... doesnt this sound reasonable?

Dynamic Ultimate Gain needs to be brought back period, or what you suggested, either way there's no way to defend against large groups with a small group anymore. (I'm not talking 16v20, I'm talking 8v20)

Yonkit

OGLezard wrote: »

Yonkit wrote: »

OdinForge wrote: »

Yonkit wrote: »

Recremen wrote: »

Nah dude, I like being allowed to go stamina DK. Or, like, -anything- stamina. Though there's certainly been some things taken out that would be nice to see come back. I have no idea what your pot build is but sure man, go for it, let's have that again.

stamina was functional in 1.5.... very functional, just ask @xylena

Stamina was barely functional, it worked for Xylena, because DK. I ran a very similar stamina build to Xylena as a NB, but was forced into restoration staff off-hand with hybrid max stats. While the end result did fine, it was far from ideal. There are some new things I'd try in 1.5, with knowledge from today. But i doubt the end result would be any better.

There are some things i miss about 1.5, like stamina drain and sparks. I think 1.6 could have actually been the better patch, if ZOS didn't sleep on all the bugs and actually communicated to us better. If they would have adjusted penetration, nirn/spell resist, the CP system.

2.1 is a train-wreck, I'm sorry if people disagree on this. All i do in this game is PvP, but it's so boring now.

I don't want to sound like a jack wagon but the only people that benefit and enjoy the benefit of 2.1's patch are hardcore zerglings that just want to follow crown and use 2 skills

So no, nobody disagrees with you

I do recall steel tornado still being used by some people............and maybe the occasional extra skill in there........even when they are not in a zerg......just saying...its not just zerglings......

Yah some people would complain to me that I used nothing but flying blade. The truth was, if my opponent let me get away with it, of course that's all I'd use. Against better opponents I had to work in more adept rotations and start to weave skills and cc's and ulti's and fights could get a bit more intense, but for most people that saw nothing but a flying blade from me... it was usually because that's all that was needed.

Hydrocodone

No way! I'd settle for 1.6 with the sharpened bug fix or balance out cloak in 1.7. Do we want to go back to a point when everyone ran LA and the stupid whip spam? I say this as a DK since launch, F that.

Yonkit

Hydrocodone wrote: »

No way! I'd settle for 1.6 with the sharpened bug fix or balance out cloak in 1.7. Do we want to go back to a point when everyone ran LA and the stupid whip spam? I say this as a DK since launch, F that.

You don't want to get buffed to 1.5 DK but... You're totally fine with 1.7 DK

1.6 DK was at least good, 1.5 wasn't that strong but 1.7 DK... It's like free Tel Var and free AP just walking around.

Draxys

Hydrocodone wrote: »

No way! I'd settle for 1.6 with the sharpened bug fix or balance out cloak in 1.7. Do we want to go back to a point when everyone ran LA and the stupid whip spam? I say this as a DK since launch, F that.

lol