Does everyone have long fingers ?

Kuroinu

Holy triple-post Batman!

Velvet_Kevorkian

Sorry, couldn't help myself.

RizaHawkeye

Riko_Futatabi wrote: »

Urnbak wrote: »

I'm finding it difficult to click on 1-5 and keep moving at the same time,
how does everyone cope with that?

maybe it's my age and i'm just a bit slow at reacting (55)
i tried remapping 1 and 2 to Q and E but that confused me.

I do have ESO on my PS4 and prefer the controller but i find i can't turn character around fast enough like i can with a mouse,
what i really need is 3 foot pedals to map to 3,4,5, (dreams)

Honestly, when I bought this game I could not get used to aiming, moving and executing skills all at once. I decided right then that I'd buy a Logitech G600 and it's seriously a decision I'm more than glad I made.

It can take a little bit of getting used to, but after a few days of use it's no problem. I also don't use all the side buttons, I use 6/12 of the side buttons, 5 skills and 1 weapon switch. It's really fun to use lol.

I'd seriously recommend the Logitech G600 to those that find their current input method uncomfortable.

This right here - and it was money well spent. Once you get used to it, you'll never go back.

I use mine on other games, too, even though they don't have quite the complicated key-mapping this game has.

Urnbak

Thanks all for your help i just might get that Razer Hex mouse looks just right, looks bad ass.

AmmonErebos

wow... i must of lagged right then... i only clicked post once... sorry for the triple post spam

eliisra

Sallington wrote: »

Moonshadow66 wrote: »

Believe it or not.. but for the movement I'm still using the CURSOR keys like I used to when I played Morrowind about a century ago.. The skills are on 1-5, though^^
It's not a picnic, but I do have long fingers, and I used to be a pianist for decades, maybe that's why I can hit the right buttons "blind" pretty fast However moving AND using skills at the same time doesn't work, unless I put the mouse to the side and use both hands on the keyboard. It's a pain, but I don't do that too often
But, being in the earliest 40s, I notice that I'm getting a touch slower now

That sounds awful!

Get used to WASD. There's no reason to put your hands through that stress

Ugh, I dont understand how people can get used to WASD myself. It's to limiting, leaves you with like 4-5 keybinds to reach(unless you have the worlds longest fingers). I rather re-mapp forward to E or R, than build everything around that. Allowing my hand to be more in the centre of the keyboard, to reach more stuff.

But of course, I also use a gaming mouse with a few buttons(because oldies that grew up without gaming computers needs a little extra help).

Kuroinu

eliisra wrote: »

Sallington wrote: »

Moonshadow66 wrote: »

Believe it or not.. but for the movement I'm still using the CURSOR keys like I used to when I played Morrowind about a century ago.. The skills are on 1-5, though^^
It's not a picnic, but I do have long fingers, and I used to be a pianist for decades, maybe that's why I can hit the right buttons "blind" pretty fast However moving AND using skills at the same time doesn't work, unless I put the mouse to the side and use both hands on the keyboard. It's a pain, but I don't do that too often
But, being in the earliest 40s, I notice that I'm getting a touch slower now

That sounds awful!

Get used to WASD. There's no reason to put your hands through that stress

Ugh, I dont understand how people can get used to WASD myself. It's to limiting, leaves you with like 4-5 keybinds to reach(unless you have the worlds longest fingers). I rather re-mapp forward to E or R, than build everything around that. Allowing my hand to be more in the centre of the keyboard, to reach more stuff.

But of course, I also use a gaming mouse with a few buttons(because oldies that grew up without gaming computers needs a little extra help).

Due to past MMO key config. I got used to using the number pad over WASD. Number pad for movement is nice, but when it comes to games that don't rely on tab targeting it can be a problem to reach those skills and remapping the skills for efficiency can get complicated. Another reason I upgraded my mouse lol.

driosketch

Sounds like you've already settled on an RTS/MMO gaming mouse. That's really the best option. I use a Corsair Vengeance M95 myself.

For anyone who doesn't what to bite the bullet on a new peripheral, map your primary insta-casts to the keys you can reach the easiest. Put your long cast or that 20 sec buff on the hard to reach keys that you won't be hitting as often or that halt your movement anyways.

Groggpuffar

(I skipped through the comments)

If you want to look around faster on PS4.. You could always adjust the sensitivity. It sure did help me alot

Techlisp

Own up, how many looked at your own hands before answering?

MissBizz

Gaming mouse FTW.

The problem you state is exactly the reason I bought one. Fortunately I have scrawny fingers (although long for my hand size) so the Naga works perfect. If you have troubles with that though, trying finding one with fewer buttons. Especially helpful if you can go to a store where you can demo them, even not use it but be able to put your hand on it, so you know what is comfortable and what buttons you can actually reach. (I don't use 3 buttons on my Naga)

LordSemaj

The problem usually isn't your mouse, it's your keyboard. I would recommend a mouse with two side buttons but that's fairly common and easy to use.



What you REALLY need is a left hand device that doesn't screw with your dexterity. Something like this.



KEYBOARDS SUCK!!!

DaveTheMinion

I absolutely love PC gaming but due to age and now having Parkinson's I have had to resort to playing a PS4 although I still game with the wife on the PC but mostly Diablo 3

The programmable gaming mouse is great but only if you have a good memory and remember what it was you programed for each button

UrQuan

LordSemaj wrote: »

The problem usually isn't your mouse, it's your keyboard. I would recommend a mouse with two side buttons but that's fairly common and easy to use.

That's the exact mouse I used to use. Actually, I still use it for my laptop, but I now use this one for my desktop:

JamieAubrey

I bound 5 to X as I found trying to reach number 5 hard

Egonieser

Damn i feel sorry for you people. You think 1-5 is tough? LOL try a MMO with 5 skillbars and 10 skills on each one.
And even that is easy once you get the hang of it.
Practice makes perfect, unless you have physical impairment.
Oh and i run and skill with a bog standard, generic Dell keyboard with no extra buttons, also my gigabyte mouse has only 2 side buttons, one i use for interrupt and other for autorun.
If anything, i can't play with gaming accessories, I've been using generic mouse/kb for over 20 years and any extra buttons, different keyboard layouts just complicates things for me. For me it's the simpler - the better.

Tried countless different gaming mice and keyboards in the past, they all ended up on ebay after a week, just can't stand them as my fingers work in autopilot and if something is just slightly off, i will be pressing all random things.

Tandor

Urnbak wrote: »

I'm finding it difficult to click on 1-5 and keep moving at the same time,
how does everyone cope with that?

maybe it's my age and i'm just a bit slow at reacting (55)
i tried remapping 1 and 2 to Q and E but that confused me.

I do have ESO on my PS4 and prefer the controller but i find i can't turn character around fast enough like i can with a mouse,
what i really need is 3 foot pedals to map to 3,4,5, (dreams)

PC, mouse and keyboard are all this pensioner needs...

Urnbak

Riko_Futatabi wrote: »

Not to start up an old war, but Logitech for me has always been more reliable lol.

But in this case, it really depends on your hand. I rarely miss-click and I only use the fore-keys(G9-14), it's really comfortable for me.

Are those keys big enough and close enough to your thumb ?

Itoq

For skills ERFCZ X

map CAPS LOCK
quickslot Q
horse T
res G

crouch, swap weapon, bash, dodge roll, use, ult synergy and push to talk on mouse (G700)

and most importantly and most recently added: to dismiss the Excessive Message Warning when swapping skills: V

Kuroinu

That Razer nostromo keybad doesn't actually

Urnbak wrote: »

Riko_Futatabi wrote: »

Not to start up an old war, but Logitech for me has always been more reliable lol.

But in this case, it really depends on your hand. I rarely miss-click and I only use the fore-keys(G9-14), it's really comfortable for me.

Are those keys big enough and close enough to your thumb ?

G9, 10, 12 and 13 are the keys my thumb is resting on, so I have those keys assigned to skills I use the most.
G11 I reserve for a toggle or less used ability.
G14 I use for weapon swapping.

Urnbak

Just found this one.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/ROCCAT-Nyth-Modular-Gaming-Mouse/dp/B00ZORREDK/ref=sr_1_27?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1442264017&sr=1-27&keywords=computers+gaming+mice+roccat

And this.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-CH-9000091-EU-SCIMITAR-Multi-Colour-Performance/dp/B013T4PLG6/ref=sr_1_72?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1442264106&sr=1-72&keywords=computers+gaming+mice+corsair

Gidorick

@LordSemaj beat me to it! Get one of those orbweaver keypads it helps position your palm so the keys are more accessible

Kuroinu

The thing about mice is you really need to try it out and get a feel for it to see if it's right for you. I've bought a lot of headphones in the past and it's the same kind of situation. I'd try them out and if they didn't feel right for me, I'd send them back.

Happy shopping!

nimander99

pjwb16_ESO wrote: »

Look at the curves and the sleek lines... its like a muscle car only better

pdebie64b16_ESO

The first beta weekend i was in i noticed those controls arent for me, so i bought an Razer Naga gaming mouse and problem solved

Iam 51 btw.

Xendyn

Urnbak wrote: »

Just found this one.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/ROCCAT-Nyth-Modular-Gaming-Mouse/dp/B00ZORREDK/ref=sr_1_27?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1442264017&sr=1-27&keywords=computers+gaming+mice+roccat

And this.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-CH-9000091-EU-SCIMITAR-Multi-Colour-Performance/dp/B013T4PLG6/ref=sr_1_72?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1442264106&sr=1-72&keywords=computers+gaming+mice+corsair

I'd be cautious about those moveable/interchangeable ones. More opportunities for breakage.
I'm an old fart that doesn't trust the quality of products these days lol.

WillhelmBlack

pjwb16_ESO wrote: »

Yep, the Razor Naga Hex. Perfect for ESO.

CraigB276

Urnbak wrote: »

I do have ESO on my PS4 and prefer the controller but i find i can't turn character around fast enough

Have you tried turning sensitivity up in settings?

I have mine on full helps a lot, although it is still slow compared to other console games.

Aerieth

You don't really need a gaming mouse, though one is really helpful. Logitech G700 has been the best one I've had and I've had quite a few. Though, I'd recommend rebinding your keys for easier use. Also got quite short fingers and I definitely don't want to use anything at or beyond 5 on the keyboard during combat.

I've got my skill bar set up like this:
1 2 Q R F - G

This makes moving my character a breeze while using skills. I've got my quickslot (potions / drinks etc.) bound to § (the button on the left of '1' or above 'TAB').

Also think about convenience and quickness in relation to your keybinds. For me 'R' and 'F' are the easiest buttons to mash while in combat, so I usually have my damage skills bound to those. '1' is reserved as an "Oh shi- button" as it's easy to access but not as fun to spam in combat. '2' is usually reserved for buffs and others of that kind. Things you don't have to push often. Using the same kind of skills on the same buttons across characters also makes hopping between toons a lot easier as you'll have easier time memorizing what your buttons do. For example, on all my characters, button '1' does something to save my a** if I'm in trouble.

Hope this helped.

Ojustaboo

When I first got my naga I wondered if I had wasted my money as I was constantly pressing the wrong buttons.

Took me about two weeks to get comfortable using just the 1 to 6 buttons.

Now, nearly 2 years later I could never go back.

Those that couldn't get on with it, it takes a while ( well did for me), but is worth it in the end.

I use a naga in my right hand and a G13 in my left, only ever touching the keyboard if I'm typing in guild chat.