Is this not obvious?

ColoursYouHave

Emperor_Will wrote: »

Clearly no templars on this thread, why doesnt this surprise me.



I'll go back to silently dying whenever my teams forces get overwhelmed & i, despite healing them beyond death numerous times, giving them stamina & reviving, am the one who has to die because sorcs bolt escape, nb's instantly stealth & dk's tank/reflect incoming damage.

Whilst templars die in 1 hit to:

- Dawnbreaker
- Meteor

& die in 2 hits to:

-Any NB
-Any Sorc
-Anyone with a bow
-Anyone with Wrecking Blow

Sounds like a l2p issue to me. I spend more time PVPing on my Templar than any other character, and while the being stuck in combat is annoying, I get by just fine. Also, I've killed many sorcs, NBs, bow users, and wrecking blow users with no problem. I've even survived and won stealth ganks from bow wielding NBs.

And let me be clear, I am by no means a good PVPer. I would say that I am average at best, but still don't run into all these issues you seem to be having. Maybe you want to play around with a new build, or at least try some different skills or gear if you are having such a hard time playing a temp.

NewBlacksmurf

No, if you choose to heal your team you deserve to walk for the next 2 minutes without a speed buff.

It makes sense to me as is.
It's also not just a PvP situation so it prevents other unintended results like...ya know...cheating.....Logging out after healing to relog and avoid dying only to Rez and keep the group progressing via team speak or console voice chat.

Edit: typos galore

Emperor_Will

ColoursYouHave wrote: »

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Emperor_Will wrote: »

Clearly no templars on this thread, why doesnt this surprise me.



I'll go back to silently dying whenever my teams forces get overwhelmed & i, despite healing them beyond death numerous times, giving them stamina & reviving, am the one who has to die because sorcs bolt escape, nb's instantly stealth & dk's tank/reflect incoming damage.

Whilst templars die in 1 hit to:

- Dawnbreaker
- Meteor

& die in 2 hits to:

-Any NB
-Any Sorc
-Anyone with a bow
-Anyone with Wrecking Blow

Sounds like a l2p issue to me. I spend more time PVPing on my Templar than any other character, and while the being stuck in combat is annoying, I get by just fine. Also, I've killed many sorcs, NBs, bow users, and wrecking blow users with no problem. I've even survived and won stealth ganks from bow wielding NBs.

And let me be clear, I am by no means a good PVPer. I would say that I am average at best, but still don't run into all these issues you seem to be having. Maybe you want to play around with a new build, or at least try some different skills or gear if you are having such a hard time playing a temp.

I, myself, am the same when it comes to L2p issues. Although last azuras star i was 50% higher than the person 2nd in templars for eu xbox. I welcome any info that would help templars (especilly full magicka templars - currently full magicka templar vs full magicka sorc seems vastly unbalanced).

Emperor_Will

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

It makes sense to me as is.
It's also not just a PvP situation so it prevents other unintended results like...ya know...cheating.....Logging out after healing to relog and avoid dying only to Rez and keep the group progressing via team speak or console voice chat.

Edit: typos galore

Im surprised that people would try these tactics but i guess it happens. Surely a better balance would be damage takes the same time penalty as healing - since currently healing leaves you walking with no chance to mount, far longer than simply dps.

EDIT: 2 options-

- Watch you're team die & use a soul gem so you can still use your mount.

- Heal and be unable to mount for the next 1-3 mintutes.

UrQuan

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UrQuan wrote: »

Rosveen wrote: »

Emperor_Will wrote: »

EDIT: drunken spelling is still significantly better than zos. 'coldharbor'

What's wrong with Coldharbor?

It's not the way you would spell it unless you're American. Most (all?) of the rest of the English-speaking world spells it "harbour" rather than "harbor".

My dictionary says it is British. If more people spell that way it's because the British spread themselves over the world strewing odd spelling. I, personally, while American, spell may words with a British "U" but, it's still British.

Hmm, I'm not sure how you would consider spelling things the same way as the country that invented the English language to be "odd spelling", but pretty much every country in the world that is primarily English-speaking is that way because of the British. The USA is the only one I'm aware of that spells things without the British U (I'm not saying there aren't other countries that use the American spelling, but I'm not aware of any others that do - I know we definitely don't here in Canada).

Emperor_Will

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Moonscythe wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Rosveen wrote: »

Emperor_Will wrote: »

EDIT: drunken spelling is still significantly better than zos. 'coldharbor'

What's wrong with Coldharbor?

It's not the way you would spell it unless you're American. Most (all?) of the rest of the English-speaking world spells it "harbour" rather than "harbor".

My dictionary says it is British. If more people spell that way it's because the British spread themselves over the world strewing odd spelling. I, personally, while American, spell may words with a British "U" but, it's still British.

Hmm, I'm not sure how you would consider spelling things the same way as the country that invented the English language to be "odd spelling", but pretty much every country in the world that is primarily English-speaking is that way because of the British. The USA is the only one I'm aware of that spells things without the British U (I'm not saying there aren't other countries that use the American spelling, but I'm not aware of any others that do - I know we definitely don't here in Canada).

British master race - ColdHarbour please Zos.

NewBlacksmurf

No, if you choose to heal your team you deserve to walk for the next 2 minutes without a speed buff.

Emperor_Will wrote: »

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NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

It makes sense to me as is.
It's also not just a PvP situation so it prevents other unintended results like...ya know...cheating.....Logging out after healing to relog and avoid dying only to Rez and keep the group progressing via team speak or console voice chat.

Edit: typos galore

Im surprised that people would try these tactics but i guess it happens. Surely a better balance would be damage takes the same time penalty as healing - since currently healing leaves you walking with no chance to mount, far longer than simply dps.

EDIT: 2 options-

- Watch you're team die & use a soul gem so you can still use your mount.

- Heal and be unable to mount for the next 1-3 mintutes.

If you played WoW one example would be the raid where one guy stays out of combat to Rez or PvP.
I'm sure there are other examples within the game but being a healer if asked I'd be the healer if they would stay out of combat and rez if I were a lowbie and could just sit out of combat...keeping the back line stance and ranged Rez to keep the charge going in PvP.

With that if I could heal too and mount up...run away come back. Rez and heal...rinse n repeat I could foresee an issue

phaseadept

Emperor_Will wrote: »

Clearly no templars on this thread, why doesnt this surprise me.



I'll go back to silently dying whenever my teams forces get overwhelmed & i, despite healing them beyond death numerous times, giving them stamina & reviving, am the one who has to die because sorcs bolt escape, nb's instantly stealth & dk's tank/reflect incoming damage.

Whilst templars die in 1 hit to:

- Dawnbreaker
- Meteor

& die in 2 hits to:

-Any NB
-Any Sorc
-Anyone with a bow
-Anyone with Wrecking Blow

I have almost 28k health on my Templar, people usually burst me and stand there for a second because I'm not dead

Wrecking blow can be blocked. . . Total dark on a sorc and scream into your mic stop punching yourself

Total dark works on other magika based abilities as well. I've seen nightblades kill themselves

Fruitmass

I have to imagine that being unable to mount while in combat is there to ensure that anytime you choose to stop and engage an enemy or assist an ally your committed to that choice. If healers and other support roles could just mount up and move all over the battlefield buffing and healing as they please, that would probably just end up creating a whole lot other issues.

The restriction does have a purpose. True that they could stand to tweak the time it takes to officially be considered out of combat after a fight but I wouldn't want them to do away with it all together.

Forestd16b14_ESO

Well this has to be the most bias poll I have ever read.

Emperor_Will

Fruitmass wrote: »

I have to imagine that being unable to mount while in combat is there to ensure that anytime you choose to stop and engage an enemy or assist an ally your committed to that choice. If healers and other support roles could just mount up and move all over the battlefield buffing and healing as they please, that would probably just end up creating a whole lot other issues.

The restriction does have a purpose. True that they could stand to tweak the time it takes to officially be considered out of combat after a fight but I wouldn't want them to do away with it all together.

I enjoy your opponion, cant believe that its how its intended though.

Firstly, lets consider a nb or sorc healer - they have option of using reso staff - easy ap, easy heals AND they can do so whilst using the agility buffs that sorc/nb get. (lets ignore for now that mutagen gains faster ap than legit & useful healing).

As templar i gain a few more heals, not massively useful - Breath of life spam, little else worth while - a class-defining skill, apparently. Pales in comparison to bolt escape OR hardened ward (EDIT : either of which would be a suitable class balance - max mobility & max damage mitigation is, after spending all day, every day, gaming, for more than the past decade, the worst design option ive seen. Played all final fantasy, all ES during the 1 year ESO extension time - had much better time & considered every game by far better made.)

And apart from DK, both NB and sorc have multiple skills that increase speed.

Fruitmass

I suppose you could petition ZOS to implement some form of mechanic so that once you've managed to have gotten a reasonable distance from an enemy player without taking damage for ten or so seconds you'll no longer be flagged as in combat even if someone you gave a quick heal to may still be fighting.

NGP

Zos gameplay devs have set the record for the worse possible balance in gameplay history.

Let's enable fighting abilities on horse back. Human has learn that skill since thousands of years ago. When will Tamriel folks learn to do that?

starkerealm

NGP wrote: »

Let's enable fighting abilities on horse back. Human has learn that skill since thousands of years ago. When will Tamriel folks learn to do that?

1k years from now.

Emperor_Will

Fruitmass wrote: »

I suppose you could petition ZOS to implement some form of mechanic so that once you've managed to have gotten a reasonable distance from an enemy player without taking damage for ten or so seconds you'll no longer be flagged as in combat even if someone you gave a quick heal to may still be fighting.

A great suggestion with great attitude.

Personally, i demand such basic & obvious game mechanisms. Such should be active at launch. Lack of said ideas destroy the community aspect of a long awaited game when noones actually playing because certains devs are worse than useless. Or perhaps i'm wrong & so was the 7/10 rating.

Significant sums of money were spent creating this game. I'd like to think that it created more than the smoke you see during the menu screen.

nimander99

Ha haha I always wondered why I could mount up for so long after dropping a heal in certain cases, I thought it was everyone though...

likelolwhat

Emperor_Will wrote: »

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Fruitmass wrote: »

I suppose you could petition ZOS to implement some form of mechanic so that once you've managed to have gotten a reasonable distance from an enemy player without taking damage for ten or so seconds you'll no longer be flagged as in combat even if someone you gave a quick heal to may still be fighting.

A great suggestion with great attitude.

Personally, i demand such basic & obvious game mechanisms. Such should be active at launch. Lack of said ideas destroy the community aspect of a long awaited game when noones actually playing because certains devs are worse than useless. Or perhaps i'm wrong & so was the 7/10 rating.

Significant sums of money were spent creating this game. I'd like to think that it created more than the smoke you see during the menu screen.

What smoke? Please tell me you're not playing Skyrim on accident....