Is this not obvious?

Emperor_Will
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'You cannot mount whilst engaged in combat' should only happen after dealing damage.

Why?

Dismount to heal your team - you now are unable to remount until the next keep.

Templars have NO mobility skills, such as the numerous ones that sorc & nb have.






EDIT: drunken spelling is still significantly better than zos. 'coldharbor'

EDIT #2: Lets also consider the very obvious disadvantage to being on horse in combat - you cannot break cc after being knocked down, you then can get further cc'd. It is, infact, hard to not kill someone who you attack thats on a horse, regardless of level - another reason to lose respect for zos devs, clearly another unconsidered obvious mechanism of gameplay.
Edited by Emperor_Will on September 8, 2015 11:44PM

Is this not obvious? 37 votes

Ofcourse. This is beyond obvious.
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GregTroneontplink3r1AetherderiussadownikjkemmeryKobaalAustacker 8 votes
No, if you choose to heal your team you deserve to walk for the next 2 minutes without a speed buff.
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Zos gameplay devs have set the record for the worse possible balance in gameplay history.
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  • UrQuan
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    Biased poll is biased, so it gets no vote from me. Next time try making a useful poll instead of one that's just intended to confirm the belief you already hold.
    Caius Drusus Imperial DK (DC)
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    Isabeau Runeseer Breton Sorc (DC)
    Fevassa Dunmer DK (EP)
    Manut Redguard Temp (AD)
    Tylera the Summoner Altmer Sorc (EP)
    Svari Snake-Blood Nord DK (AD)
    Ashlyn D'Elyse Breton NB (EP)
    Filindria Bosmer Temp (DC)
    Vigbjorn the Wanderer Nord Warden (EP)
    Hrokki Winterborn Breton Warden (DC)
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    Someone stole my sweetroll
  • Emperor_Will
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    UrQuan wrote: »
    Biased poll is biased, so it gets no vote from me. Next time try making a useful poll instead of one that's just intended to confirm the belief you already hold.

    So, you chose to completely ignore the poll. What option would add balance?



  • Emperor_Will
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    That zos are beyond incompetant & such imbalance is to be expected? No? I didn't expect a relevant reply.

    Nor, do i expect bug fixes for the numerous bugs that still rule the PVP content that i play daily.

    Nor will i stop playing this game because of such.




    But i will consistantly allow zos & eso players to know my oppinion of such disgusting abuse of game development.
  • Emperor_Will
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    Urquan, my poll is still waiting for a more balanced option.
  • Emperor_Will
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    Maybe i should have just made this a gina appreciation thread & accepted that nothing good rarely happens in eso.

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    Gina, Zos employees - do you're job and sort the **** out thats happening in this game daily.
  • UrQuan
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    You'd have to re-write the question and every option. Your poll is bad, pure and simple.
    Caius Drusus Imperial DK (DC)
    Bragg Ironhand Orc Temp (DC)
    Neesha Stalks-Shadows Argonian NB (EP)
    Falidir Altmer Sorcr (AD)
    J'zharka Khajiit NB (AD)
    Isabeau Runeseer Breton Sorc (DC)
    Fevassa Dunmer DK (EP)
    Manut Redguard Temp (AD)
    Tylera the Summoner Altmer Sorc (EP)
    Svari Snake-Blood Nord DK (AD)
    Ashlyn D'Elyse Breton NB (EP)
    Filindria Bosmer Temp (DC)
    Vigbjorn the Wanderer Nord Warden (EP)
    Hrokki Winterborn Breton Warden (DC)
    Basks-in-the-Sunshine Argonian Temp
    Someone stole my sweetroll
  • Kobaal
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    Ofcourse. This is beyond obvious.
    If you heal a player that is in combat then that will put you in combat. That is a fair mechanic. Thats pretty much how every game works.
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  • jkemmery
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    Ofcourse. This is beyond obvious.
    'You cannot mount whilst engaged in combat' should only happen after dealing damage.

    Why?

    Dismount to heal your team - you now are unable to remount until the next keep.

    Templars have NO mobility skills, such as the numerous ones that sorc & nb have.






    EDIT: drunken spelling is still significantly better than zos. 'coldharbor'

    I'll bet 250,000 AP you're British. Americans spell it "harbor".
  • UrQuan
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    OK, since someone apparently never learned how to present something neutrally (and is pestering me here and on my wall to explain what's wrong with this ridiculously biased poll), here's how you do it.

    Step 1:
    Phrase the question as simply as possible, without injecting anything that could be considered an opinion into it. In this case the question could be something like: "Do you think it should be possible to mount while in combat if you have not dealt any damage?"

    Step 2:
    Phrase the possible answers as simply as possible, without injecting anything that could be considered an opinion into them, or anything that would influence people to pick one over another. In this case the options should be something like: "Yes", "No", "Other - please explain in the comments".

    Step 3:
    Feel free to vote on your own poll, and explain your reasoning. Then step back and watch people vote the way they actually feel on the issue.

    That's how you make an unbiased, non-manipulative poll.

    Happy now?
    Caius Drusus Imperial DK (DC)
    Bragg Ironhand Orc Temp (DC)
    Neesha Stalks-Shadows Argonian NB (EP)
    Falidir Altmer Sorcr (AD)
    J'zharka Khajiit NB (AD)
    Isabeau Runeseer Breton Sorc (DC)
    Fevassa Dunmer DK (EP)
    Manut Redguard Temp (AD)
    Tylera the Summoner Altmer Sorc (EP)
    Svari Snake-Blood Nord DK (AD)
    Ashlyn D'Elyse Breton NB (EP)
    Filindria Bosmer Temp (DC)
    Vigbjorn the Wanderer Nord Warden (EP)
    Hrokki Winterborn Breton Warden (DC)
    Basks-in-the-Sunshine Argonian Temp
    Someone stole my sweetroll
  • Emperor_Will
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    Clearly no templars on this thread, why doesnt this surprise me.



    I'll go back to silently dying whenever my teams forces get overwhelmed & i, despite healing them beyond death numerous times, giving them stamina & reviving, am the one who has to die because sorcs bolt escape, nb's instantly stealth & dk's tank/reflect incoming damage.

    Whilst templars die in 1 hit to:

    - Dawnbreaker
    - Meteor

    & die in 2 hits to:

    -Any NB
    -Any Sorc
    -Anyone with a bow
    -Anyone with Wrecking Blow
    Edited by Emperor_Will on September 8, 2015 11:26PM
  • jkemmery
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    Ofcourse. This is beyond obvious.
    UrQuan wrote: »
    OK, since someone apparently never learned how to present something neutrally (and is pestering me here and on my wall to explain what's wrong with this ridiculously biased poll), here's how you do it.

    Step 1:
    Phrase the question as simply as possible, without injecting anything that could be considered an opinion into it. In this case the question could be something like: "Do you think it should be possible to mount while in combat if you have not dealt any damage?"

    Step 2:
    Phrase the possible answers as simply as possible, without injecting anything that could be considered an opinion into them, or anything that would influence people to pick one over another. In this case the options should be something like: "Yes", "No", "Other - please explain in the comments".

    Step 3:
    Feel free to vote on your own poll, and explain your reasoning. Then step back and watch people vote the way they actually feel on the issue.

    That's how you make an unbiased, non-manipulative poll.

    Happy now?

    Some people are only happy when they are complaining.
  • Rosveen
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    EDIT: drunken spelling is still significantly better than zos. 'coldharbor'
    What's wrong with Coldharbor?
  • lolo_01b16_ESO
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    No, if you choose to heal your team you deserve to walk for the next 2 minutes without a speed buff.
    If someone uses rapid regeneration on me to leech my ap, he deserves it to get the stuck in combat bug ;)
    Edited by lolo_01b16_ESO on September 8, 2015 11:29PM
  • Shunravi
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    Zos gameplay devs have set the record for the worse possible balance in gameplay history.
    jkemmery wrote: »

    Some people are only happy when they are complaining.

    *The sweetroll khajiit 'found' near @UrQuan was stale!!!*

    You are right, I do feel happy when complaining.
    This one has an eloquent and well thought out response to tha... Ooh sweetroll!
  • UrQuan
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    Shunravi wrote: »

    *The sweetroll khajiit 'found' near @UrQuan was stale!!!*

    You are right, I do feel happy when complaining.
    Give me back my sweetroll!
    Caius Drusus Imperial DK (DC)
    Bragg Ironhand Orc Temp (DC)
    Neesha Stalks-Shadows Argonian NB (EP)
    Falidir Altmer Sorcr (AD)
    J'zharka Khajiit NB (AD)
    Isabeau Runeseer Breton Sorc (DC)
    Fevassa Dunmer DK (EP)
    Manut Redguard Temp (AD)
    Tylera the Summoner Altmer Sorc (EP)
    Svari Snake-Blood Nord DK (AD)
    Ashlyn D'Elyse Breton NB (EP)
    Filindria Bosmer Temp (DC)
    Vigbjorn the Wanderer Nord Warden (EP)
    Hrokki Winterborn Breton Warden (DC)
    Basks-in-the-Sunshine Argonian Temp
    Someone stole my sweetroll
  • Shunravi
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    Zos gameplay devs have set the record for the worse possible balance in gameplay history.
    UrQuan wrote: »
    Give me back my sweetroll!

    *shadow cloaks away*
    This one has an eloquent and well thought out response to tha... Ooh sweetroll!
  • UrQuan
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    Rosveen wrote: »
    What's wrong with Coldharbor?
    It's not the way you would spell it unless you're American. Most (all?) of the rest of the English-speaking world spells it "harbour" rather than "harbor".
    Caius Drusus Imperial DK (DC)
    Bragg Ironhand Orc Temp (DC)
    Neesha Stalks-Shadows Argonian NB (EP)
    Falidir Altmer Sorcr (AD)
    J'zharka Khajiit NB (AD)
    Isabeau Runeseer Breton Sorc (DC)
    Fevassa Dunmer DK (EP)
    Manut Redguard Temp (AD)
    Tylera the Summoner Altmer Sorc (EP)
    Svari Snake-Blood Nord DK (AD)
    Ashlyn D'Elyse Breton NB (EP)
    Filindria Bosmer Temp (DC)
    Vigbjorn the Wanderer Nord Warden (EP)
    Hrokki Winterborn Breton Warden (DC)
    Basks-in-the-Sunshine Argonian Temp
    Someone stole my sweetroll
  • UrQuan
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    Shunravi wrote: »

    *shadow cloaks away*
    Well at least you weren't able to mount your horse to get away...
    Caius Drusus Imperial DK (DC)
    Bragg Ironhand Orc Temp (DC)
    Neesha Stalks-Shadows Argonian NB (EP)
    Falidir Altmer Sorcr (AD)
    J'zharka Khajiit NB (AD)
    Isabeau Runeseer Breton Sorc (DC)
    Fevassa Dunmer DK (EP)
    Manut Redguard Temp (AD)
    Tylera the Summoner Altmer Sorc (EP)
    Svari Snake-Blood Nord DK (AD)
    Ashlyn D'Elyse Breton NB (EP)
    Filindria Bosmer Temp (DC)
    Vigbjorn the Wanderer Nord Warden (EP)
    Hrokki Winterborn Breton Warden (DC)
    Basks-in-the-Sunshine Argonian Temp
    Someone stole my sweetroll
  • Emperor_Will
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    UrQuan wrote: »
    OK, since someone apparently never learned how to present something neutrally (and is pestering me here and on my wall to explain what's wrong with this ridiculously biased poll), here's how you do it.

    Step 1:
    Phrase the question as simply as possible, without injecting anything that could be considered an opinion into it. In this case the question could be something like: "Do you think it should be possible to mount while in combat if you have not dealt any damage?"

    Step 2:
    Phrase the possible answers as simply as possible, without injecting anything that could be considered an opinion into them, or anything that would influence people to pick one over another. In this case the options should be something like: "Yes", "No", "Other - please explain in the comments".

    Step 3:
    Feel free to vote on your own poll, and explain your reasoning. Then step back and watch people vote the way they actually feel on the issue.

    That's how you make an unbiased, non-manipulative poll.

    Happy now?

    Actually, yes.
    Believe it or not im not here to push my own oppinions - merely trying to highlight the issues that i put up with daily.

    As a full templar thats speced to heal i often jump off my horse to heal my team, only to be left on foot for the next 2-3 minutes. Didnt think thats fair, thought maybe others would agree. Maybe it would get heard & fixed.

    The issue is a small one, sure. But 3 months of running on foot, watching sorcs bolt escape ahead of me, watching nb's run faster than me, both outrunning me & other templars when they're near death after a good fight, actually seems like a blatant imbalance to me.
  • Rosveen
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    UrQuan wrote: »
    It's not the way you would spell it unless you're American. Most (all?) of the rest of the English-speaking world spells it "harbour" rather than "harbor".
    There's no difference in meaning. It's not a spelling mistake. Besides, it's spelled Coldharbour in the game.
  • Shunravi
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    Zos gameplay devs have set the record for the worse possible balance in gameplay history.
    UrQuan wrote: »
    Well at least you weren't able to mount your horse to get away...

    Oh, i wish

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpegFVRxarI
    This one has an eloquent and well thought out response to tha... Ooh sweetroll!
  • Emperor_Will
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    And yes, i'm british.

    Coldharbour is spelt 'coldharbour' .. so i dont understand why the siege should be different - Surely this is just another ill considered aspect of eso.
    Edited by Emperor_Will on September 8, 2015 11:36PM
  • Huggalump
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    No, if you choose to heal your team you deserve to walk for the next 2 minutes without a speed buff.
    If your team is out of combat, they don't need healing. Health returns quickly when out of combat

    If you're in combat, you helped the fight. You should be marked in combat.

    Isn't this obvious?
  • Emperor_Will
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    If someone uses rapid regeneration on me to leech my ap, he deserves it to get the stuck in combat bug ;)

    Hey, i absolutely agree with this. A little off topic but im tired of getting around 50% less ap for those who spam mutagen whilst i keep my team alive by actually paying attention to their health bar & healing/buff/speed buffing where necessary.

  • jkemmery
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    Ofcourse. This is beyond obvious.
    'You cannot mount whilst engaged in combat' should only happen after dealing damage.

    Why?

    Dismount to heal your team - you now are unable to remount until the next keep.

    Templars have NO mobility skills, such as the numerous ones that sorc & nb have.






    EDIT: drunken spelling is still significantly better than zos. 'coldharbor'

    @Emperor_Will

    And since you're drunk, I'm guessing you're Irish ;)

    I was watching a stand up comedian special on Netflix the other day that included the joke, "It's a bit of a stretch to call Ireland a country. It's really more of a country-sized, medieval-themed frat party."
  • Rosveen
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    And yes, i'm british.

    Coldharbour is spelt 'coldharbour' .. so i dont understand why the siege should be different - Surely this is just another ill considered aspect of eso.
    This post is riddled with spelling mistakes, including one in your own nationality. I'm not sure if you're qualified to criticize other people's spelling.
  • Emperor_Will
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    Im from 'coldharbor'


    ...kinda isnt the point. You heal you're team & cant use youre horse for the next 3 minutes, you're not going to heal you're team again.

    -- but this is clearly zos' intended gameplay. Play as templar, realised its terrible, re-roll as sorc/nb (i did the opposite)
    Edited by Emperor_Will on September 9, 2015 12:00AM
  • starkerealm
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    Clearly no templars on this thread, why doesnt this surprise me.

    Because any Templar's thirst for justice will see the biased poll options, and immediately smite you.
  • Osteos
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    [quote="UrQuan;2232191"
    Well at least you weren't able to mount your horse to get away...
    [/quote]

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  • Moonscythe
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    UrQuan wrote: »
    It's not the way you would spell it unless you're American. Most (all?) of the rest of the English-speaking world spells it "harbour" rather than "harbor".

    My dictionary says it is British. If more people spell that way it's because the British spread themselves over the world strewing odd spelling. I, personally, while American, spell may words with a British "U" but, it's still British.

    harbor |ˈhärbər|(Brit. harbour )
    noun
    a place on the coast where vessels may find shelter, esp. one protected from rough water by piers, jetties, and other artificial structures: fishing in the harbor | the westerly wind kept us in harbor until the following afternoon.
    • a place of refuge: the offered harbor of his arms.
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