Invincibility Bug, Can Not Kill Player

Arunei

And watch, once this gets fixed, people who were exploiting it will come cry on the forums that Phoenix was "nerfed", just like they do w/ Nirnhoned.

TheBull

What happens is if you are knocked down with phoenix on the animation will not fire. Thus you don't die and get healed to full shortly after.

Ishammael

Players are exploiting this right now. Pull sweeper boss to spawn point --> don't die with phoenix set --> get stones.

Need some action (hotfix) quickly otherwise it will degenerate.

Mr_Nobody

Crown wrote: »

While there may be a bug in the phoenix set, there is another possibility.

A player's health bar is calculated locally in the game client, and the status of such is sent to the server, which then propagates said status to other peoples' game clients. In the time that this is performed, your own client performs the same calculation, and if a hit SHOULD kill someone then it shows them as zero health on your client, though they are only dead when their own game client tells the server that they are dead (and then you see them as really dead). One of the ways this works is that the game code is not obfuscated well in memory, so it's possible to read/write to the health bar buffer such that a near continuous calculation is performed on incoming damage: If %incomingdamage is greater than %currenthealth then set %incomingdamage to %currenthealth-1

This keeps the person at 1 health (thus not dead) minimum. The way to kill them is to get enough simultaneous damage on them so that the process that would save them (otherwise keeping them at 1 health) misses one of the damage calculations. This is the same way that certain players (who we all know) kept their resource pools forever full in the last patch.

You would be surprised what can be done ~

WriteProcessMemory(

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But considering i cannot disclose any information nor name & shame and since ZOS doesn't care about Templars (lol), i'm going to keep my mouth shut since i already said enough!

Ezareth

I killed a Templar wearing this set (twice) just fine. He stayed dead the second time.

There is obviously something being done to these players causing this bug. We just have to narrow it down.

apostate9

c.gregoryb14_ESO wrote: »

I was waiting for the B name to come up and it almost did, the B name has not been played in several days. This concludes the Xe person posting is an obvious troll and liar.

Not to mention, an incessant whinger.

HeroOfNone

Noticed a NB using this last night and go into stealth as their health went zero. They seemed to dissappear without a trace and came back with 60% plus health. Chased them down later, trying to cloak before the proc but they get killed and the 2nd try.


The issue I saw was it proceed in stealth the first time (a hostile action that should break invisibility) and it seemed to ignore any detection radius when it procs (running Sentry + radiant magelight). I'll review my past broadcast as well and double check the time on procs.

TheBull

Ezareth wrote: »

I killed a Templar wearing this set (twice) just fine. He stayed dead the second time.

There is obviously something being done to these players causing this bug. We just have to narrow it down.

If the person is knocked downed 100% it will bug. I'm not sure if this applies to stuns too.

ToRelax

TheBull wrote: »

Ezareth wrote: »

I killed a Templar wearing this set (twice) just fine. He stayed dead the second time.

There is obviously something being done to these players causing this bug. We just have to narrow it down.

If the person is knocked downed 100% it will bug. I'm not sure if this applies to stuns too.

Interesting.

I did have mine "bug out" a few times today, had no idea what caused it. Because most of the time, it works perfectly fine and when actually happens what is being described in this thread, there is no indicator that something didn't work as intended - I am just nearly dead, but I survived with exactly 0 HP before 2.1 sometimes as well.

There is also another bug that is a bit more obvious. Maybe it is caused by silence, I am often in negates when it happens, not sure. Basically, I stay in the statue state for far too long before the heal goes off as always (though I usually instantly die anyway because by now there is an angry mob around me spamming their damage skills ).

Diamond_10

I dunno whats more worrying, the fact ZOS have yet to respond to this, or that Eric Wrobel no longer even has a forum account or @name

Ezareth

Diamond_10 wrote: »

I dunno whats more worrying, the fact ZOS have yet to respond to this, or that Eric Wrobel no longer even has a forum account or @name

He never has had one. He is afraid of the PvP crowd and our righteous nerd rage ( =

Unstable.Pixel

I've been using this Phoenix set for a few days and noticed something isn't quite right. While in most cases it works as intended, where I die the second time around if the cool-down is running. However, I've ran into large groups and had 10+ guys beating on me and my hit-points will stop at 3% and I can't be killed. I'll shield up, cast a healing ward and streak away. Even been dropped to 3% multiple times in same fight then randomly it will decide to fix itself and I'll die at 0% as I should.

Not exactly sure what the root cause of it all is as it tends to happen when getting focused by a lot of players at once. Short of the long is that this set is just a little more fun and effective than it's intended to be per the tool-tip.

OdinForge

Some strange stuff has been happening to me as well, however I'm not sure if it's related to the Phoenix set or not (my targets have been between V1-V16).

I'll be focusing a specific target, they get extremely low health / at death, and suddenly stop taking any damage. I'll be focusing all my DPS and burst, and their HP will stop moving while i waste my resources and take damage of my own. It also tends to happen when I'm outnumbered and unable to pay close attention to HP values. The last time this happened to me, there were no damage shields or healers involved. The person was just standing there shooting arrows at me and hard casting frags.

I'm not sure if it's related to the Phoenix set, but it does sound similar to some of the things I'm reading here.

eventide03b14a_ESO

They should remove the set from the game immediately until they fix it.

danno8

I remember reading the set description on the PTS and saying to myself, "ain't no way this set won't be bugged". I mean death state has always been buggy in Cyrodiil, with buffs vanishing through it, staying in combat through it, can't use doors after dying.

They should try to clean up that code before playing with set bonuses that do weird things to death state.

Cody

i'm sure it will be fixed.

frozywozy

There were 3 DCs camping the IC north gate the other day all wearing that set and their health would stay bugged around 20% forever.

vortexman11

eventide03b14a_ESO wrote: »

They should remove the set from the game immediately until they fix it.

They only remove stuff immediately when people actually like it. Experience and level grinds for example.

Tsuyomaru

Experienced this on at least 5 different occasions. PvP is so broken right now

Crogster

Just to confirm you DO NOT need the Phoenix set for this to happen!!

Detector

Diamond_10 wrote: »

Fighting a Sorcerer on Red, was just on Thornblade NA
Every time i killed her (or didn't), her HP would stop at 0% and she would not die. 4 times in same fight her health stopped at 0% even though the damage of the hit would have taken it deep into the minus.
Tried to mail the player to ask whats up, said Unknown Player

I think Phoenix set is buged. I seen this problem in Haderus (2 yellow cant kill red sorc). 3-4 times 0 hp and 100% evasion (for few second) in 1 MINUTE! ZOS, fix it please.

@ZOS_RichLambert , @ZOS_GinaBruno

ToRelax

Crogster wrote: »

Just to confirm you DO NOT need the Phoenix set for this to happen!!

Really? I noticed it never happens to me after the Phoenix set procced as it should, thus activating the cooldown.

Alucardo

These new sets are dumb.

Shield Breaker: "I don't break shields, I completely ignore them #blazeit"
Phoenix: "Because second chances on the battlefield are fair"

Crogster

ToRelax wrote: »

Crogster wrote: »

Just to confirm you DO NOT need the Phoenix set for this to happen!!

Really? I noticed it never happens to me after the Phoenix set procced as it should, thus activating the cooldown.

Hey yes please take a look at my similar post i made last week

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/2253842/#Comment_2253842

Domander

I'm disappointed that this wasn't fixed in the last patch.

It should be hotfixed.