If This Wasn't Elder Scrolls....In all honesty

MikeB

Don't just make a biased post without thinking first. If this game didn't have Elder Scrolls in the title with all the bugs, connection issues, imbalanced classes, PvE and PvP that leaves much to be desired, how long would you play it?

MikeB

I most likely would have never Boughy the game and been happy

Kammakazi

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splat71

Doubtful I would have bought the game or stuck with it. The Elder Scrolls setting, lore, etc is a huge part of the appeal of the game for me. Otherwise, it's just another generic fantasy world MMO.

Drakoleon

Unfortunately i wouldn't be playing this game at all ...I hope this will change in couple of years cause after 1,5y and still feels like BETA to me

Prof_Bawbag

Credit where credit is due to ZoS. It wouldn't be a TES game if it wasn't a bugfest nor contained quest breakers. ZoS have nailed that part tbf.

Dahkoht

This game does have a touch of that to it.

The license definitely helps it keep a much larger portion than it normally would especially on the console side.

I don't even think it would keep 1/10 th the player on the console side who wanted an actual mmo experience more than a month without the Elder Scrolls name.

newtinmpls

I would not have played it. Ever.

I am glad I'm here.

PBpsy

If this game didn't have TES on it it wouldn't have been made.

Troneon

What are you trying to say? That this is just a MMO that feels like it was made 15 years ago with an Elder Scrolls sticker slapped onto it?

Tholian1

It was definitely the name that attracted me to buying it. It has both good and bad things about it like any other TES game.

Docmandu

Since I never played any Elder Scrolls stuff before, just as long as I've been playing it now. (well I'm lying, started Oblivion, got out of the prison and deinstalled because I was already bored with it)

Emma_Overload

I'd been waiting for a long time for an MMO with snappy, real-time combat and an immersive, minimalist interface, so I probably would have given this game a shot anyway.

In spite of it's shortcomings, I believe ESO is a great game! My bitter posts on this forum are mainly due to my disappointment when the game falls short of my expectations as an Elder Scrolls fan. Building an MMO on top of the Elder Scrolls lore brings with it some responsibilities, in my opinion. I feel VERY strongly that ZOS has erred in pandering to the narrow base of hardcore MMO players, when they should have put more effort into satisfying the much wider player base that has traditionally enjoyed the Elder Scrolls single player games.

Oblivion and Skyrim had tens of MILLIONS of players... why aren't they all playing ESO? That's the question that Zenimax should be asking at every single board meeting!

Fine_Rug

Would never have even applied for the beta if it wasn't TES. Certainly wouldn't have bough it.

SirAndy

MikeB wrote: »

I most likely would have never bought the game ...

Ravici

Emma_Eunjung wrote: »

I'd been waiting for a long time for an MMO with snappy, real-time combat and an immersive, minimalist interface, so I probably would have given this game a shot anyway.

In spite of it's shortcomings, I believe ESO is a great game! My bitter posts on this forum are mainly due to my disappointment when the game falls short of my expectations as an Elder Scrolls fan. Building an MMO on top of the Elder Scrolls lore brings with it some responsibilities, in my opinion. I feel VERY strongly that ZOS has erred in pandering to the narrow base of hardcore MMO players, when they should have put more effort into satisfying the much wider player base that has traditionally enjoyed the Elder Scrolls single player games.

Oblivion and Skyrim had tens of MILLIONS of players... why aren't they all playing ESO? That's the question that Zenimax should be asking at every single board meeting!

Other than putting pvp/pve at logerheads by having them occuring in the same area (without a way to not engage in one or the other), it's a cool game.

It has so many issues it's nuts, but in this day and age, a crap game is the expected norm. The days of a game working are long gone.

That last line though is the one biggy. I might have thought Skyrim sucked (technical issues/broken quests/rushed release for the mighty dollar) but that's just my pov. A LOT of people played that and still do. To not interest those players shows how much this has actually failed.

RizaHawkeye

I would never have bought it.

ZioGio

Difficult to say. I think I still would have followed the progress of the game on blogs if it wasn't based on TES. A selling point for me was the first-person perspective because I've played all my TES games that way (at least since Morrowind) and I enjoy the immersion.

Moonshadow66

Like most others stated already, I only bought it (and beta-tested it also) BECAUSE it's a TES game. If it wasn't a TES game, I guess I wouldn't even have known about it because I didn't play any MMOs before ESO, so I wasn't looking out for them.

Rosveen

I would have never bought it. I might not even know about its existence.

Kuroinu

Emma_Eunjung wrote: »

I'd been waiting for a long time for an MMO with snappy, real-time combat and an immersive, minimalist interface, so I probably would have given this game a shot anyway.

In spite of it's shortcomings, I believe ESO is a great game! My bitter posts on this forum are mainly due to my disappointment when the game falls short of my expectations as an Elder Scrolls fan. Building an MMO on top of the Elder Scrolls lore brings with it some responsibilities, in my opinion. I feel VERY strongly that ZOS has erred in pandering to the narrow base of hardcore MMO players, when they should have put more effort into satisfying the much wider player base that has traditionally enjoyed the Elder Scrolls single player games.

Oblivion and Skyrim had tens of MILLIONS of players... why aren't they all playing ESO? That's the question that Zenimax should be asking at every single board meeting!

@Emma_Eunjung - This is my opinion on what I've highlighted in bold from your post.

The game doesn't offer the right forms of freedom from the beginning. Actually I'm just going to quote myself from a previous thread, sorry for being lazy lol, but I think this is relevant and possibly the reason a lot of TES fans get put off.

To put this in context I was replying in a thread about the want for Faction changes. Additionally, I've highlighted major points in bold.

Riko_Futatabi wrote:

The idea to force people into a Faction at Character creation was a mistake for an Elder Scrolls game, even if it is the first online endeavor. The entire Main Story, Fighters Guild and Mages Guild isn't even intertwined with anything going on in Cyrodiil, bar some mentions of it in dialogue. Even the Alliance Story questlines in each zone only mention the war and you fight an opposing factions NPCs occasionally, but that's it until you actually go to Cyrodiil yourself. All the above dialogue could easily be altered to make a bit more sense to someone that isn't affiliate with any alliance at all.

The only choice you should have made in Character creation is which City to start in. In fact they should have only let you make a decision on the Alliance you wish to represent after you have experienced all 3 Alliance stories. Until then, while in Cyrodiil, all 3 Alliances are considered your enemy. This would actually give you somewhat more of an incentive to finish the Alliance stories and afterwards pick an Alliance so at least you'd have a third of the map friendly.

Another world design that should have never happened is the splitting of the 3 Alliance areas into separate instances depending on Alliance choice. This should have been nothing more than picking a City to start in, period. If a friend started in Stonefalls, another in Auridon and you picked Glenumbra, you all should have been able to meet up somewhere an any Alliance zone and Cyrodiil shouldn't feel so cut off from the rest of the world by not being allowed to zone in from the border gates like any other area. I believe this would just make for a better MMO overall, the current system has split the player base too much and makes for a less "alive" world.

JamilaRaj

The only other Elder Scrolls game I played was Daggerfall and it was large, empty...buggy mess. I was thoroughly shocked when I came here and found Elder Scrolls franchise had some fans.

Fine_Rug

JamilaRaj wrote: »

The only other Elder Scrolls game I played was Daggerfall and it was large, empty...buggy mess. I was thoroughly shocked when I came here and found Elder Scrolls franchise had some fans.

You... You've never player Morrowind or Skyrim? My god...

RazielSR

MikeB wrote: »

Don't just make a biased post without thinking first. If this game didn't have Elder Scrolls in the title with all the bugs, connection issues, imbalanced classes, PvE and PvP that leaves much to be desired, how long would you play it?

If this was not (or intended to be) an Elder Scrolls game, I would have never play it. In case I would have tested the beta not having Elder Scrolls in the title, I would have never, in any way, buy it.

In fact, about 75% of playerbase that left was because of that, they tried the game and wanted to support a game having Elder Scrolls in the title, but then, when they saw this was just a random mmo with TES skin, they left. I talked about this A LOT more than a year ago in this forum and in the beta forums.

dday3six

Honestly, I think it being an Elder Scrolls title is part of the issue. ZOS is trying to please too many types of gamers. So the focus is too spread out. The game comes across like it has an identity crisis.

Iyas

Cyrodil is the only reason why im playing this game. dont care about tes

Moonscythe

JamilaRaj wrote: »

The only other Elder Scrolls game I played was Daggerfall and it was large, empty...buggy mess. I was thoroughly shocked when I came here and found Elder Scrolls franchise had some fans.

Had SOME fans? I think the numbers on both PC and console together or separate would constitute more than "some". Suffice to say that in some quarters that it was Elder Scrolls was a big deal. As for me, I had never played an MMO and would not have gone beyond curious had this not been in the familiar Elder Scrolls world. I'm still not convinced I want to play in an MMO but this is the only fresh game in town until ES VI arrives sometime in the next 3 or 4 years if we're lucky.

Tavore1138

I would never have tried it and even if I had I would not have put up with all the dishonesty, insolence and obfuscation that has characterised their dealings with players since launch time.

Nebthet78

MikeB wrote: »

I most likely would have never Boughy the game and been happy

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tplink3r1

If this wasn't TES i wouldn't even know about its existence.

Mr_Nobody

You dont have to worry much, Camelot Unchained will be released within the next year, more or less ~ We will all be able to experience smooth and balanced PvP with zero to little PvE required to compete.