Worst Patch Ever (everything got nerfed)

Valve

AngryNord wrote: »

Sandmanninja wrote: »

Craglorn=multiplayer (IMPOSSIBLE to do ANYTHING solo)

Oh my.. An MMO has group content. What a scandal!

While ESO is an MMO, it is still an Elder Scrolls game. There are many people out there that want to play the game solo, just like a traditional Elder Scrolls game.

JD2013

Valve wrote: »

AngryNord wrote: »

Sandmanninja wrote: »

Craglorn=multiplayer (IMPOSSIBLE to do ANYTHING solo)

Oh my.. An MMO has group content. What a scandal!

While ESO is an MMO, it is still an Elder Scrolls game. There are many people out there that want to play the game solo, just like a traditional Elder Scrolls game.

It's a shame this isn't Elder Scrolls VI then, isn't it? In an MMO there is group play. Too many people seem to complain about that fact.

Can we get a potion to nerf forum drama?

zornyan

Techlisp wrote: »

Iink wrote: »

-Rapid Manuver no longer makes horses go faster

So the oversized Cyrodiil with rapidly depleting people in [PS4], will now take even longer to ride from one point to the other?

What were they thinking there?

I would laugh at the stupidity if it wasn't so painful to think about.

It's a bug, and it works for.most people fine anyway.

Ps4 cyrodil is mentally busy, I had a 280 que for azuras the other night. After 2 hours? Dropped to 260

Reb

ontheleftcoast wrote: »

OK, that was the last straw!

They nerfed the grocer in Grahtwood at Redfur Trading Post. She used to sell all non-purple foods at 10gp. Now she's got a limited selection and everything is 150g like every other worthless "grocer" in this excuse for a game. FFS, can't we at least create some food without having to go thru the busted ass trade kiosks?!

so they fixed a bug ......

Valve

JD2013 wrote: »

Valve wrote: »

AngryNord wrote: »

Sandmanninja wrote: »

Craglorn=multiplayer (IMPOSSIBLE to do ANYTHING solo)

Oh my.. An MMO has group content. What a scandal!

While ESO is an MMO, it is still an Elder Scrolls game. There are many people out there that want to play the game solo, just like a traditional Elder Scrolls game.

It's a shame this isn't Elder Scrolls VI then, isn't it? In an MMO there is group play. Too many people seem to complain about that fact.

Can we get a potion to nerf forum drama?

I don't really mind all the group content, I've run my fair share of dungeons and completed Craglorn.

Of course, a lot of people expecting a "true" Elder Scrolls experience would probably be disappointed by all the group requirements in the extra content we have received this far.

I'm more concerned about the massive nerfs to stamina in this update, I really don't feel like playing my stamina NB anymore.

JD2013

Valve wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

Valve wrote: »

AngryNord wrote: »

Sandmanninja wrote: »

Craglorn=multiplayer (IMPOSSIBLE to do ANYTHING solo)

Oh my.. An MMO has group content. What a scandal!

While ESO is an MMO, it is still an Elder Scrolls game. There are many people out there that want to play the game solo, just like a traditional Elder Scrolls game.

It's a shame this isn't Elder Scrolls VI then, isn't it? In an MMO there is group play. Too many people seem to complain about that fact.

Can we get a potion to nerf forum drama?

I don't really mind all the group content, I've run my fair share of dungeons and completed Craglorn.

Of course, a lot of people expecting a "true" Elder Scrolls experience would probably be disappointed by all the group requirements in the extra content we have received this far.

I'm more concerned about the massive nerfs to stamina in this update, I really don't feel like playing my stamina NB anymore.

Ah, but the only reason that it is a *true* Elder Scrolls experience is the fact that there have, until 2014, only been Single Player Elder Scrolls games.

The very definition alone of a true Elder Scrolls experience in itself is, for all intents and purposes, a faulty statement as there is no real true Elder Scrolls experience. It is whatever the devs of games in the series give to us. For example, the next Elder Scrolls experience coming at us from Bethesda Game Studios is a game like Blizzard's Hearthstone. Is that a true Elder Scrolls experience?

But I can certainly agree that a few of the nerfs are an annoyance. The stamina one more than anything. And I am running out of Magicka a lot more often now with no real explanation of why in the patch notes.

ontheleftcoast

Reb wrote: »

ontheleftcoast wrote: »

OK, that was the last straw!

They nerfed the grocer in Grahtwood at Redfur Trading Post. She used to sell all non-purple foods at 10gp. Now she's got a limited selection and everything is 150g like every other worthless "grocer" in this excuse for a game. FFS, can't we at least create some food without having to go thru the busted ass trade kiosks?!

so they fixed a bug ......

It's a bit sarcastic but it's a "straw that broke the camel's back" kind of thing for me. I can put up with multi-minute load screens, having to quit and restart the game every 45 minutes to keep my FPS at 60, no stamina regen, and a host of other bugs and "improvements". But taking away my go-to-grocer?! Why? She's been a reliable source of meats and veggies for months. Why now, of all times, did they have to nerf the hell out of her? It's just another insult on top of heaps of injury. That's Update 7 in a nutshell.

marco.cuevas.ventob14_ESO

Just got an email today to "renew my subscription because it's going to expire today"

NO THANKS

Techlisp

zornyan wrote: »

Ps4 cyrodil is mentally busy, I had a 280 que for azuras the other night. After 2 hours? Dropped to 260

Have you looked at all the other servers?

marco.cuevas.ventob14_ESO

Moonshadow66 wrote: »

Sandmanninja wrote: »

I've waited for ESO for YEARS. Played all the beta weekends and had 5 days early access.
I've defended ESO to haters and other people that wanted ESO to be something other than what it was.

This DLC killed my loyalty.

I played beta a bit but hated it. This is a 100% pvp release. Period. I don't pvp.
If YOU like pvp, that's fine, but this dlc should NOT affect my PVE game play.

If you read through all of these posts, an overwhelming percentage of people that LIKE/LOVE this dlc pvp.
Just as an overwhelming percentage of people that HATE this dlc PVE.

I didn't even get the horse or the new costumes. Sort of a protest for this crappy dlc.

I have a bunch of new books for my iPad and I'll just do something more creative and fun rather than sit through a horrible xpac that I can't frickin' play.

Craglorn=multiplayer (IMPOSSIBLE to do ANYTHING solo)
Imperial City=multiplayer AND PvP (go in alone and get ganked)

No shards or achieves for me in the IC.

I'm more mad than sad. It's just very disappointing.

I couldn't agree more!
Also, I just ordered a book (paper, hardcover), too, it should arrive today. I thought it's the perfect time now to read a book

a BOOk eh good idea...

Me I just bought MGSV keeping me REAL busy..........

reclaimervii.sierra117ub17_ESO

Zenimanx sure loves ad and ep. Nothing but zergs and gank squads. At least make IC enjoyable it's just boring trying to do something and then getting mauled by 10+

Tankqull

AngryNord wrote: »

Sandmanninja wrote: »

Craglorn=multiplayer (IMPOSSIBLE to do ANYTHING solo)

Oh my.. An MMO has group content. What a scandal!

this.

the problem though is its not worth to spend time in craglorn for anything but trials...

newtinmpls

ontheleftcoast wrote: »

. FFS, can't we at least create some food without having to go thru the busted ass trade kiosks?!

This struck me as hilarious. The idea that anyone would PAY for ingretients to make food ... never heard of looting?

The only things I don't find are Frost Mirram and the like, and that's what high level hirelings are for.

willymchilybily

@Valve

Valve wrote: »

[snip] I'm more concerned about the massive nerfs to stamina in this update, I really don't feel like playing my stamina NB anymore.

patch hasnt dropped on console but what im reading seems to indicate the opposite. Stamina NB with the extra addition to regen from shadowy passive, stamina regen enchants up 150% !!!!, (also kahjitt racial for me) and actually being likely to proc a grim focus instead of using it for buff. Stamina NB are looking good imo, loads more sustain. People have to change up what they did before but i dont have any issues with it in theory, looking forward to experience it in practice though.

Winterpsy

Havent seen this much misinformation circling around.
Crowds and mass hysteria (not the game's skill mind me), seems to be working just fine in virtual communities.

Where in the patch notes have you people read about rapid man not affecting horse riding anymore? Or jumping inability while in sneak?
There have been mention at many places also, that addons are conflicting with the new patch causing all kind of issues, fps drops. They are already working on the UI rescaling thingy also.
Characters are not weaker, everyone became sturdier due to certain adjustments in PvP.
Mages' bolt escape also were hit by the nerf hammer, and with due reasons.
Most of the nerfs practically apply to every single class.
I can imagine queues are full since everyone want a bite into the new content, but eventually it will settle down. Everyone will go back to whatever content they enjoyed doing smoothening out the lag, the lock out, and so on.

You can see it for yourself in this thread that they are patching up the new release:http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en-GB/discussion/212064/known-issues-for-patch-v2-1-4-imperial-city#latest




Breeth in, breeth out. Chill. Please. Dont be the one who jumps on the bandwagon of hysteria.

zornyan

Techlisp wrote: »

zornyan wrote: »

Ps4 cyrodil is mentally busy, I had a 280 que for azuras the other night. After 2 hours? Dropped to 260

Have you looked at all the other servers?

It depends on time of day mostly, peak hours, azuras has 300 man ques, bwb has ques, Thornblade has 2-3 red bars and 2-3 yellows, hadus has 2 red bars, the other non vet campaign has always been quiet.

But in general azuras has enough qued to get in to fill an entire server, it's simply the most used as it's where all the guilds work together, and will want to be doing IC

vamp_emily

Iink wrote: »

-Rapid Manuver no longer makes horses go faster
-15% stamina regen is gone from warewolfs on base form
-can't jump while in sneak
-characters are generally weaker
-a bunch of things nerfed wich I'm too tired to list
-most of the nerfs apply to non mages, mages were OP in PVP before the patch, now they are even more OP

I wanna make a stink, and hopefully the developers will feel bad for what they did

worst
patch
ever

We can only blame our selves for this. I read the threads, and what i see is users saying nerf this nerf that.

I'm 100% against nerfing, I enjoyed the game like it was before. Yes there are some OP players in PvP, but nothing a group could not handle.

I logged in yesterday, hopped on my mount and thought, "omg, they even nerfed my mount!" It could have been an server issue but my mount sure was slow.

JigenBakudan

why in the hell would they remove the horse speed with rapid maneuver? its in the damn ability description for crying out loud.

Reverb

I take issue with the thread title. Not everything got nerfed. Both the Load Screen Boss and notorious Craglorn Lagspike both got serious buffs.

Elephant42

Regarding Rapid Maneuver.

My 3 VR chars all have mount speed upgraded to 60 and RM still works normally on them.

My L48 nightblade only has mount speed upgraded to 40 and RM does diddly squat on him. Interestingly RM still makes him run faster, it just doesn't work when he's mounted.

ADarklore

Elephant42 wrote: »

Regarding Rapid Maneuver.

My 3 VR chars all have mount speed upgraded to 60 and RM still works normally on them.

My L48 nightblade only has mount speed upgraded to 40 and RM does diddly squat on him. Interestingly RM still makes him run faster, it just doesn't work when he's mounted.

That's what I think it is, a problem associated with 'upgraded' mounts and I reported this on the PTS but no one from ZOS chimed in. I only have RM on one character because he is my crafter and I use RM to get him around to set crafting stations faster, while on Live it worked perfectly fine while mounted, but on PTS it would not work at all. Now that the update has gone Live, RM does not work on my crafter- just as it didn't on PTS.