Worst Patch Ever (everything got nerfed)

Iink

-Rapid Manuver no longer makes horses go faster
-15% stamina regen is gone from warewolfs on base form
-can't jump while in sneak
-characters are generally weaker
-a bunch of things nerfed wich I'm too tired to list
-most of the nerfs apply to non mages, mages were OP in PVP before the patch, now they are even more OP

I wanna make a stink, and hopefully the developers will feel bad for what they did

worst
patch
ever

Tholian1

Can't jump while sneaking? Was that a big issue?

ontheleftcoast

Yeah, it's pretty bad. I'm trying to focus on the good bits but they're far and few between.

Good - more bag/bank slots
Good - UI for bank now shows both your toon slots/stones/gold as well as bank slots/stones/gold
Good - Light armor got 100% boost in effectiveness (OK, so it will create more 'skirts and stick' builds which might not be good but still..)
Good - Several Mundus stone effectives were increased. Though some folks lost theirs and had to reapply them
Good - Weapons show while riding
Good - Vigor is now Assault 5 instead of 10.

But the bad, as you listed above, overwhelms those. Memory leaks seems to be causing huge FPS drops. Loading screens can take 10 minutes for some players. Stamina nerf is over-the-top, ham-handed, and bogus. And on, and on, and on...

I'm calling this the "New Coke" of code and I hope it gets yanked faster than that disgusting swill was.

Sithisvoid

Nerf the devs

Lylith

ontheleftcoast wrote: »

Yeah, it's pretty bad. I'm trying to focus on the good bits but they're far and few between.

Good - more bag/bank slots
Good - UI for bank now shows both your toon slots/stones/gold as well as bank slots/stones/gold
Good - Light armor got 100% boost in effectiveness (OK, so it will create more 'skirts and stick' builds which might not be good but still..)
Good - Several Mundus stone effectives were increased. Though some folks lost theirs and had to reapply them
Good - Weapons show while riding
Good - Vigor is now Assault 5 instead of 10.

But the bad, as you listed above, overwhelms those. Memory leaks seems to be causing huge FPS drops. Loading screens can take 10 minutes for some players. Stamina nerf is over-the-top, ham-handed, and bogus. And on, and on, and on...

I'm calling this the "New Coke" of code and I hope it gets yanked faster than that disgusting swill was.

excellent analogy.

ColtPython

I have to agree. Every major update since launch I have eagerly awaited like a kid on Christmas. This one however I was dreading. I played PTS a little until I was too angry and realized I needed to enjoy what was left of 2.0. Now I am forcing myself to play when I used to be glued to the chair all day. I just finished grinding one character up to v16 and I wanted to try some of the new dungeons. But, I think I am going to call it an early night for the first time in a while. This just isn't very fun.

MrGrimey

Waiting for the patch that fixes this patch....

Tholian1

MrGrimey wrote: »

Waiting for the patch that fixes this patch....

It will be a new crown store consumable. A potion that temporarily reverses the effects of the IC patch for 2 hours.

delushin

What do you mean worst patch ever?

Its still in beta testing, wait till the final release on console before you bash it.

Corrupted_Soul

delushin wrote: »

What do you mean worst patch ever?

Its still in beta testing, wait till the final release on console before you bash it.

It's been released for PC/MAC Megaservers in its entirety, bugs and all. check out the patch notes Delushion(al)

Alucardo

Tholian1 wrote: »

It will be a new crown store consumable. A potion that temporarily reverses the effects of the IC patch for 2 hours.

These would sell like hotcakes as it stands

Molag_Crow

I guess this is the first MMO you guys have played?

MrGrimey

They did buff one thing... Zergs

AJ_1988

Apparently sorcs didn't get buffed. Which is a load of poo. I nearly got banned last night arguing about this. Sorcs and nbs even more powerful Templars even more useless in pvp now so pretty much Templars should get killed off as they are useless. Dks took a blow. I'm guessing it's because the sorcs had a cry and they make up the population with no life's that are always one so I guess they don't want to loose that player base but it's fine with them to loose majority of the players over and make this game dead. In the last 2 weeks I've seen this game die. Atleast 60 people on my friends list no longer play. My guilds all have hundreds of members yet only about 10 play anymore. I'm gonna give it a week after its released on console then when my thoughts are confirmed eso will be shelved indefinitely. Lucky there are some good games coming out in a few weeks to months. I play for the pvp content and that is being destroyed. If I wanted to quest and immerse my self in the lore I would play skyrim and oblivion. There is so much I want to say right now but ZOS doesn't allow freedom of speech. I've tried experience expressing my views via private message and still get moderated. RIP ESO

Iink

CrowsDescend wrote: »

I guess this is the first MMO you guys have played?

Worst patch ever... IN REGARDS to ESO

leepalmer95

AJ_1988 wrote: »

Apparently sorcs didn't get buffed. Which is a load of poo. I nearly got banned last night arguing about this. Sorcs and nbs even more powerful Templars even more useless in pvp now so pretty much Templars should get killed off as they are useless. Dks took a blow. I'm guessing it's because the sorcs had a cry and they make up the population with no life's that are always one so I guess they don't want to loose that player base but it's fine with them to loose majority of the players over and make this game dead. In the last 2 weeks I've seen this game die. Atleast 60 people on my friends list no longer play. My guilds all have hundreds of members yet only about 10 play anymore. I'm gonna give it a week after its released on console then when my thoughts are confirmed eso will be shelved indefinitely. Lucky there are some good games coming out in a few weeks to months. I play for the pvp content and that is being destroyed. If I wanted to quest and immerse my self in the lore I would play skyrim and oblivion. There is so much I want to say right now but ZOS doesn't allow freedom of speech. I've tried experience expressing my views via private message and still get moderated. RIP ESO

Sorc got buffed? enlighten me?

Septimus_Magna

UI scaling keeps resetting to 86%
longer loading screens
100+ queue for Cyrodiil
npcs in dungeons buffed
npcs in IC dont suffer the damage and healing reduction
player damage nerfed (lower weapon/spell damage from sets)
sustain nerfed
combat feels even slower

Asmael

I have a general feeling that EVERYTHING is slower than usual, and that doesn't come from my ISP nor my PC, since both showed decent performance (30 FPS, 80 ms, nothing unusual).

Fairly often, the animation sounds are just "skipped", sometimes just delayed, the characters all seem slower, sound, animation, and actual effects (e.g. seeing the HP of your enemy drop after an attack) aren't sync'ed at all very often.

That's pretty much if you took a video from 1.6 and watched it at 80-90% of its normal speed.

Other than that:
- Dodge roll nerfed into Oblivion, pretty much useless to use more than once in a row in anything that's not a stam build
- Blocking is not as bad as I thought it'd be for PvE as a non-tank. In PvP... forget about it against anyone that knows how to cancel animations.
- Zergs earned the immortal status in BwB
- The new target locking (using tab) is nice looking, but totally inefficient when facing multiple opponents when everything explode around you
- They nerfed my Rainbow warrior into oblivion Molten armaments doesn't do full damage to secondary targets on the Forceful passive on sneak attacks, and has been nerfed further to only apply to fully charged heavy attacks (what the hell?)
- The super small jump height while sneaking / being snared
- No more super ninja thingy with bow + dodge roll + major expedition (bow + dodge roll now gives a non-stackable major expedition), so those builds all feel very slow now.
- Lots of 1.7 "compatible" addons are detected as outdated. Go figure.
- Stamina management is a pain.
- The bugs. The many, many, many, many, many, many bugs.

The cool stuff:
- (Y) Stack all items. Very neat when laundering stuff.
- New items from siege vendors: potions, food and drinks with 2 effects? Pretty cool
- DK Lava whip. Well, you can't hit dodge rolling targets (not that it's an issue considering the nerf...), but the healing got multiplied by 2. Molten whip however sounds pretty useless now.
- The cool new icons for skills
- The new Mundus
- People will disagree with me on this... but the stamina regen from WW removed is a good thing. They buffed WW morph 's armor n' magic resist in the meantime.
- Applying visual effects (molten armaments, evil hunter...) on a weapon, then swapping shows the wrong effects (why isn't it corrected yet?)

I'm probably missing a lot of things

#Edit: typos, random wordz

MrGrimey

AJ_1988 wrote: »

Apparently sorcs didn't get buffed. Which is a load of poo. I nearly got banned last night arguing about this. Sorcs and nbs even more powerful Templars even more useless in pvp now so pretty much Templars should get killed off as they are useless. Dks took a blow. I'm guessing it's because the sorcs had a cry and they make up the population with no life's that are always one so I guess they don't want to loose that player base but it's fine with them to loose majority of the players over and make this game dead. In the last 2 weeks I've seen this game die. Atleast 60 people on my friends list no longer play. My guilds all have hundreds of members yet only about 10 play anymore. I'm gonna give it a week after its released on console then when my thoughts are confirmed eso will be shelved indefinitely. Lucky there are some good games coming out in a few weeks to months. I play for the pvp content and that is being destroyed. If I wanted to quest and immerse my self in the lore I would play skyrim and oblivion. There is so much I want to say right now but ZOS doesn't allow freedom of speech. I've tried experience expressing my views via private message and still get moderated. RIP ESO

DKs took a blow?

Ha, you are so misinformed... Give it a month or two, DKs are at the top. These new armor sets plus DKs are going to cause a lot of crying on the forums

ontheleftcoast

OK, that was the last straw!

They nerfed the grocer in Grahtwood at Redfur Trading Post. She used to sell all non-purple foods at 10gp. Now she's got a limited selection and everything is 150g like every other worthless "grocer" in this excuse for a game. FFS, can't we at least create some food without having to go thru the busted ass trade kiosks?!

Sandmanninja

I've waited for ESO for YEARS. Played all the beta weekends and had 5 days early access.
I've defended ESO to haters and other people that wanted ESO to be something other than what it was.

This DLC killed my loyalty.

I played beta a bit but hated it. This is a 100% pvp release. Period. I don't pvp.
If YOU like pvp, that's fine, but this dlc should NOT affect my PVE game play.

If you read through all of these posts, an overwhelming percentage of people that LIKE/LOVE this dlc pvp.
Just as an overwhelming percentage of people that HATE this dlc PVE.

I didn't even get the horse or the new costumes. Sort of a protest for this crappy dlc.

I have a bunch of new books for my iPad and I'll just do something more creative and fun rather than sit through a horrible xpac that I can't frickin' play.

Craglorn=multiplayer (IMPOSSIBLE to do ANYTHING solo)
Imperial City=multiplayer AND PvP (go in alone and get ganked)

No shards or achieves for me in the IC.

I'm more mad than sad. It's just very disappointing.

LadyDestiny

Iink wrote: »

-Rapid Manuver no longer makes horses go faster
-15% stamina regen is gone from warewolfs on base form
-can't jump while in sneak
-characters are generally weaker
-a bunch of things nerfed wich I'm too tired to list
-most of the nerfs apply to non mages, mages were OP in PVP before the patch, now they are even more OP

I wanna make a stink, and hopefully the developers will feel bad for what they did

worst
patch
ever

Seriously they nerfed rapid manuver? Wth for? what good is it now in cyrodiil? Zos.....looking for stupid things to nerf because they can't fix the real problems

ADarklore

To add to this...

Rapid Maneuver no longer makes horses go faster... wonder if this has to do with selling 'speed upgrades' in the Crown Store??

Nerfed dodge-roll by increasing its cost, but then upgraded PvE quest NPCs to do more AoE's that require dodging. Go figure. In the past while doing PvE quest missions, I rarely ever saw the 'Dodge' notification pop up, it almost always was 'Block'... but now, I am seeing 'DODGE' pop up much more frequently.

Moonshadow66

Sandmanninja wrote: »

I've waited for ESO for YEARS. Played all the beta weekends and had 5 days early access.
I've defended ESO to haters and other people that wanted ESO to be something other than what it was.

This DLC killed my loyalty.

I played beta a bit but hated it. This is a 100% pvp release. Period. I don't pvp.
If YOU like pvp, that's fine, but this dlc should NOT affect my PVE game play.

If you read through all of these posts, an overwhelming percentage of people that LIKE/LOVE this dlc pvp.
Just as an overwhelming percentage of people that HATE this dlc PVE.

I didn't even get the horse or the new costumes. Sort of a protest for this crappy dlc.

I have a bunch of new books for my iPad and I'll just do something more creative and fun rather than sit through a horrible xpac that I can't frickin' play.

Craglorn=multiplayer (IMPOSSIBLE to do ANYTHING solo)
Imperial City=multiplayer AND PvP (go in alone and get ganked)

No shards or achieves for me in the IC.

I'm more mad than sad. It's just very disappointing.

I couldn't agree more!
Also, I just ordered a book (paper, hardcover), too, it should arrive today. I thought it's the perfect time now to read a book

The Uninvited

Iink wrote: »

-Rapid Manuver no longer makes horses go faster
-can't jump while in sneak

Just tested both, works fine on my end.

asteldian

LadyDestiny wrote: »

Iink wrote: »

-Rapid Manuver no longer makes horses go faster
-15% stamina regen is gone from warewolfs on base form
-can't jump while in sneak
-characters are generally weaker
-a bunch of things nerfed wich I'm too tired to list
-most of the nerfs apply to non mages, mages were OP in PVP before the patch, now they are even more OP

I wanna make a stink, and hopefully the developers will feel bad for what they did

worst
patch
ever

Seriously they nerfed rapid manuver? Wth for? what good is it now in cyrodiil? Zos.....looking for stupid things to nerf because they can't fix the real problems

I am assuming the rapid nerf is a bug - it wasn't that long ago they changed it to be usable while on a mount, even for ZOS it would seem silly to change it to not even effect mounts.

Blackmoon777

Guys/Girls sorry but it is time to abandon this ship...

This is so true:
South Park Rips Apart Freemium Games:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=2luhwy3KAE0

AngryNord

Sandmanninja wrote: »

Craglorn=multiplayer (IMPOSSIBLE to do ANYTHING solo)

Oh my.. An MMO has group content. What a scandal!

Dracane

I used rapid maneuver on my horse yesterday all the time and I was moving faster. It still works.

Techlisp

Iink wrote: »

-Rapid Manuver no longer makes horses go faster

So the oversized Cyrodiil with rapidly depleting people in [PS4], will now take even longer to ride from one point to the other?

What were they thinking there?

I would laugh at the stupidity if it wasn't so painful to think about.

Molag_Crow

In 14 days I'll be sure to make a "Best patch ever" topic.