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Cancelled my ESO plus membership until further notice

Cavedog
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Due to the nerfing of nirnhoned traits and the near elimination of the viability of stamina builds, especially for tanking, I have decided I need to greatly reduce my investment in ESO. I am encouraging those that feel the same to take the same action. Zenimax won't listen to anything other than their revenue stream. So that's what we have to do if we want to see the gaming experience we pay to have.
  • Thymos
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    Are you sure their listening to your revenue stream? I just resubbed, so the loss of yours was balanced.

    Just playing the game gives value to the game, regardless of a sub. Those who sub now have an extra person online to play with.
    Edited by Thymos on September 1, 2015 1:54PM
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    Always accepting new members for NA and EU server. PvP PvE RP all welcome. Must be 25+ yo to join.
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  • Cavedog
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    Nice trolling.
    Edited by Cavedog on September 1, 2015 2:13PM
  • zornyan
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    I recently starting subbing too. As did my brother and a couple of friends of mine that recently purchased the game.
  • MrBeatDown
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    Cavedog wrote: »
    Due to the nerfing of nirnhoned traits and the near elimination of the viability of stamina builds, especially for tanking, I have decided I need to greatly reduce my investment in ESO. I am encouraging those that feel the same to take the same action. Zenimax won't listen to anything other than their revenue stream. So that's what we have to do if we want to see the gaming experience we pay to have.

    The problem is, if they use the revenue stream to adjust the game, then the amount of players becomes smaller and smaller until they cant afford to meet payroll anymore and shut down. They need to learn how to maximize profit by increasing their revenue stream and keeping MORE people happy with the game so that they spend more. That's how you become successful. Quick money grabs are a turn off for gamers with cash that want to spend money on the product but cant justify it.
  • Drakoleon
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    Well done! My plus ends tomorrow and i wont renew my sub as well!
    I had enough after 1.5 years playing and paying a game who still feels like BETA after every patch
  • tcgoetzub17_ESO
    Just resubbed!
    Rhurruck Redblade, EP, AL 28 NB, Azura (was Thornblade, was Wabba)
    exPride, MDBA, Original Wabba Gansters
  • jackiemanuel
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    i just farted
  • zornyan
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    Just noticed the nirn nerf is something the op is unhappy with. Op obviously wants full nirn gear and to become immortal against spells...
  • JimbobMarley
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    i just farted

    You might want to go and check that's all it was, it sounded a bit more than that mate lol.
    Edited by JimbobMarley on September 1, 2015 2:49PM
  • Pangnirtung
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    Cavedog wrote: »
    Due to the nerfing of nirnhoned traits and the near elimination of the viability of stamina builds, especially for tanking, I have decided I need to greatly reduce my investment in ESO. I am encouraging those that feel the same to take the same action. Zenimax won't listen to anything other than their revenue stream. So that's what we have to do if we want to see the gaming experience we pay to have.

    I totally sympathize with you.

    Whatever long term plan there might have been a year ago seemingly has gone out the window.

    With each "fix" things seem to move forward one step and two steps back. So many bugs a year into the game. Sets get nerfed only to make the "new" sets seem better.

    All the adjusting seems to be done because of PVP and I think that it's ruining the game. There will never be PVP balance and the more that they fix it the worse it seems to get. The flavor of the month class and exploit this month will be passe two months down the road because of the imbalances and it will NEVER get fixed or so it seems.

    I wish it were not so because there are parts of this game that I love and I wish it were going to be around for a long time.
  • Rikal
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    There is always going to be a burst of new players for a new release. But how many will be like New Year's resolutions? All excited at first but don't last long.
    Edited by Rikal on September 1, 2015 2:53PM
    Rikal on NA-PC (aka Rhaulikko)
  • THEDKEXPERIENCE
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    Balance = Makes my build unstoppable
    Unbalanced = Actual class balance

    Does this summit up?
  • Titansteele
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    Time will tell and we must adjust :smile:

    Can I have your stuff?
    Guild Leader of The Twelve Knights, AD PVE, PVP and Trading Guild on the EU Mega Server

    "That which does not kill us makes us stronger"
  • P3ZZL3
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    I stopped subbing in March. Happy to buy crowns when/if needed rather than be forced to pay monthly.
    Don't need all the mounts/pets/book/potions etc etc - just the content.
    Works for me.
    CP561 Redguard | Jabsy Templar | Stamina Build
    CP561 Breton | Jesus Beam Templar | Magicka Build Forever!
    CP561 Naked Nord | Tanky DK | Stamigicka Build

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  • Drakoleon
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    i just farted
    I bet thats the only thing you can do best

  • corwinDA
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    Nirnhoned is not getting nerfed its just finally getting coded correctly. It was never ment to do what it does now and it just took them a year and a half to "fix" it. Which is par for the course on this games hot fixes since you still cant go through a trial without at least half the runs health bars getting glitches. We should see that do about 2017ish I guess.
  • rophez_ESO
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    I'm with you, OP.

    Edit for my reasons: 1. Constant nerfs for balance instead of creative adjustments that improve all parties. 2. No gating for IC = zerg fest in IC, and ghost town in Cyrodiil.
    Edited by rophez_ESO on September 1, 2015 3:36PM
  • Sithisvoid
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    Nirnhoned is scrapped but roll a magika build and wait for stamina to have it's day again. That's what I'm doing
  • mrskinskull
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    Thymos wrote: »
    Are you sure their listening to your revenue stream? I just resubbed, so the loss of yours was balanced.

    Just playing the game gives value to the game, regardless of a sub. Those who sub now have an extra person online to play with.

    Well played.

    I never put stock in qq, unsub threads anyway.

    Did you hear ESO plus members will be gaining access to crafting storage? Yay. More perks for loyal customers.
  • Thymos
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    I find it amusing that people think posts in a forum are really going to sway enough people to make an impact on the revenue. Sorry, but the soapboxes here aren't that effective.
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  • socivL
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    hail victory!
    2 templars - 1 cup
  • Personofsecrets
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    Well said OP.
    My Holiday Wishlist Below - Message me with any questions and Happy Holidays.

    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/8227786#Comment_8227786
  • RooBeeO
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    Nirm was fixed not nerfed.

    I subbed yesterday, so that balances out you're unsubbing.

    Stam builds and tanking still works well, just adapt and overcome.

    Zeni has along term plan, I'm not privy to it, however if they don't lose focus too much, the game might turn out to be one of the best out there.

  • NovaShadow
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    Lol. Crying about an exploit no longer being viable and cannot figure out how to stam now. L2P is all I gotta say.
    PC NA - EPHS
  • SIXR_sCaR
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    Release mix tape

    Cavedog vs Zenimax
    Diss tracking coming soon

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keVGX_e0Th8 this is beat
    Cavedog wrote: »
    Due to the nerfing of nirnhoned traits and the
    near elimination of the viability of stamina builds, especially for tanking,
    I have decided I need to greatly reduce my investment in ESO.
    I am encouraging those that feel the same to take the same action.
    Zenimax won't listen to anything other than their revenue stream.
    So that's what we have to do if we want to see the gaming experience we pay to have.

    Edited by SIXR_sCaR on September 24, 2015 3:42AM
  • Chanman23
    Chanman23
    MMO's change over time, you just have to accept that and learn to adapt. If you dont like that, dont play an MMO.
  • Swindy
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    I'm no expert here, & I've never even seen Nirn gear, yet my stamblade finds that if he repeatedly sticks enough pointy-sharp things into the average stick waver, they do tend to either defend, or die, thus somewhat alleviating a need for Nirn gear somewhat.

    Just sayin'... :wink:
    II Swindy II

    Australian on Xbox NA (ex EU)
  • Yolokin_Swagonborn
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    Canceling your sub and telling everyone about it is not going to do much. Even though this isn't a quit thread and you intend to continue playing, the mods sometimes pretend it is and close these type of threads anyway because they have set up this forum in such a way that their authority and decisions cannot be publicly questioned.

    No developer is going to be like "OMG Cavedog just unsubbed, I better allow nirnhoned to increase spell resist by 35% again."

    Here are some important threads to read in order to help get this game back on track.

    The Root of the Problem - A lack of limits

    How to make a developer listen to you

    Put those in your signature and encourage others to do as well. This game has taken a dark turn recently but luckily, there are some wise people still left on this forum that are making constructive threads instead of just ranting. I tend to do a bit of both so I am a terrible role model, but the threads I linked are solid.
    Edited by Yolokin_Swagonborn on September 24, 2015 4:01AM
  • CGPsaint
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    Balance = Makes my build unstoppable
    Unbalanced = Actual class balance

    Does this summit up?

    summit.jpg

    Did someone inquire about a "summit?"
  • Elijah_Crow
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    Still subbed since launch and spent crowns on IC DLC. Just to support the game. Can I have your stuff?
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