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MalZen

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Caroloces

Brevity is the soul of wit.

Sallington

Messy1

. . . . . I'll get back to this thread in a few days. Need time to digest.

Athas24

Sighs... *begins unpacking climbing ropes and gear to climb the Giant Wall of Text....Decides to sit down and eat cookies instead*

Lexxypwns

So you can type a 10+ paragraph whine fest, but you can't just type out the word "feedback" in the title?

get rekt

Yattaq

MalZen wrote: »

A keyboard designed for the PC version, but not copy and pasted into the console version; A controller designed to work with the console version, but not Ctrl+C Ctrl+V 'd into the PC version.

You know nothing, Jon Snow.

Volkodav

That is the longest post I have read here.I gave up after the first verbose paragraph. Sooo convoluted! Whew!!

ijacksparrowed

ESO would like to thank you for taking the time to write this dissertation, unfortunately it will never get fully read by any of the staff and 98% of anyone who clicks on this thread.

Hope499

No way I am reading all of that..

TLDR much needed. Dude, that is more work than some essays I did in school...wtf

Callous2208

I read the whole thing. Now the letters on my keyboard mock me as if I was indeed illiterate all along. Floating through life pretending to have a grasp of the English language. I want to respond with an insightful rebuttal for you to chew on, but no longer feel qualified to do so.

daswahnsinn

I think this person tried way to hard to make this a hard read. The length was not to issue, trying to write too smart for "I don't want to buy the game". Well good don't buy it or if you like TES games give it a try or watch live streams. Don't came to a forum and write something that is worded the most hardest way possible. Not to flame but yeah.

Rosveen

I don't even know if he wrote it. Maybe he casually copy-pasted 7 random Wikipedia articles, a Tennyson poem, a muffin recipe and an invocation to Satan to pad it out. I will never know because I gave up after the first sentence. Even his tl;dr is gibberish.

Sensesfail13

Thank you for the post... but I have an easier time reading Slovoj Zizek's ongoing rants than I did reading the first paragraph of your post. Good game, you win.

Athas24

Lexxypwns wrote: »

So you can type a 10+ paragraph whine fest, but you can't just type out the word "feedback" in the title?

get rekt

^^ Bwahaha yes!
I mean we all know he/she just wanted to sound like they are out of this world smart to troll everyone.

Inactive Account

I got me one of them thar thesorase reading books two, but I anit not never found no good reason to use it.

I just says what I wants to says so thats people can understand me like.

Ace_of_Destiny

OP,

Good post.
Some good points.
Some I disagree with.

At least you got the game for free...even if you didn't want it.


Be Well,

Ace

Qyrk

I try to be fair and objective in my responses and I read all of it. I am not going to give you a long drawn out response but rather some bullets that seem to come in over and over while reading this.

- this is an MMO, balance is always an ongoing process therefore you cannot expect to have perfect balance out of the box.
- time and gold sinks are there for a reason. It's part of MMOs
- grind is also part of MMOs, the only things that would take long is CP acquisition and PVP ranks. CP catch up system - they're trying to address. PVP ranks, well why don't you earn it.
- prices in cash shop, it is pretty standard for an MMO ............are we seeing a pattern here?. Those mounts that cost 2500 crowns? Pretty standard. DLC cost is pretty standard considering its not a game that requires monthly sub.
- CP is still a problem in PVP, I agree . Which is why they're trying to come up with solutions to address this (if you have the time to write as much as you would, you will be able to know what plans they have to control CP by researching it).
- justice system is incomplete, I agree. But patience is virtue, and second half is coming.

There's so much more I would like to comment and disagree , but I do agree that it is becoming a whine post. I applaud you for being passionate, but you should also know that the internet requires you to be concise (not necessarily short) as attention spans of the audience is quite short. Bear that in mind .

hedna123b14_ESO

Rosveen wrote: »

I don't even know if he wrote it. Maybe he casually copy-pasted 7 random Wikipedia articles, a Tennyson poem, a muffin recipe and an invocation to Satan to pad it out. I will never know because I gave up after the first sentence. Even his tl;dr is gibberish.

I came here to read the comments and I was NOT disappointed:)

hypr.fusionub17_ESO

That is very impressive but however a complete waste of time. Waxing poetic about your internal dilemma on whether or not to support / play this game and then explaining in a level of detail no one really cares about is a complete waste of time..oh I said that already.

I agree and dis-agree to your eloquent points.

I hope you find a resolution to your inner turmoil.

Asmael

I actually read the entire thing (yes, I have a lot of free time, and can't play ESO right now...).

Well, there are numerous points already discussed in so many threads that repeating those is overkill. At least you do this in style.

TL;DR of the post:

OP feels frustrated because of:
- Importance of grinding (and how it's far superior to doing the "normal" content, e.g: questing)
- Imbalance caused by CP (in PvP exclusively) and how the devalue the choices you initially had (investing in something in particular, instead of improving everything)
- The increase of VR from 14 to 16
- How skill rededication can be used to level as many skills as possible with a minimum amount of SP
- How incredibly long it is to up some crafting (especially researching all traits -> 311 days apparently for weapons alone) and mounts (5 months)
- How the selling/buying price from NPC vendors are pretty dramatic (buy an item, sell it for 2-3% of the original price)
- How maps from the Adventuring pack (crown store) take individual slots => eat all your inventory space
- How Imperial Edition costs 2100 crowns, and that to get those 100 extra crowns (since you get multiples of 500 usually), you actually have to spend more
- "ESO does not officially support controllers for PC and Mac"
- The lack of toggles for multiple options
- How all the skills and their morphs are messy and require to always display the skill morphed from and the alternative (an add on does that by the way)
- How holding caps does not mean you'll always sprint (if you sprint, stop, then walk again by pressing the sprint button the whole time, you won't sprint)
- The lack of daily allowed withdrawals from guild bank based on ranks
- How a lot of stolen items are worth 0 gold and can't be deconstructed

Close enough?

Qyrk

After reading through it all again, it's pretty clear that the OP have limited MMO experience and used to playing single player console games like other TES games.

I'd say bring on the cheese to this whine and dine thread ....

Kuroinu

There are actually really good points within the OPs post. One point questions a lot of todays "systems" to get people to buy games and almost the dishonestly in the process. But it's almost like reading an esoteric text at times, you're unlikely to get it on the first read and most will look at this and be entirely put off with the tone and confusion in the first few lines. If the OP made more of an effort to provide more clarity, this may have been an interesting thread.

A good analogy for this post would be finding a diamond in a garbage dump.

AkeGamer

Best lesson I learned in business about a year out of college: The New York Times is written at the 8th grade level and most people can't comprehend more advanced writing styles. Know your audience.

hedna123b14_ESO

Also, anyone who states: "Look at me and admire my coolness, I mean I am so cool JKJK. Stay tuned and witness my amazing awesomeness of the cool", and then goes on a prolific and unnecessarily verbose explanation of grievances that can be stated in a much more concise manner is quite full of themselves. Even skimming this was like reading Kant, convoluted paragraphs with run-on sentences and at the end of it all when after straining your brain you finally comprehend the intended purpose, you are left with a question - "Why couldn't he have just summed up such a simple concept in 4 sentences"?

MalZen wrote: »

[Fdbck] My ominous ZOS/ESO concerned Paradigm; Reluctance to purchase (Caveat: Words; profuse)

I have a penchant for enigmatic verbosity and atrophic solecism; not saying what I mean, but deliberately meaning what I say, so I will attempt as able to capitulate laconically with a bullet-point demeanor. (Failed. Hardcore fail.)

jackiemanuel

I agree with some of your points, but dude put the thesaurus down.

Inactive Account

AkeGamer wrote: »

Best lesson I learned in business about a year out of college: The New York Times is written at the 8th grade level and most people can't comprehend more advanced writing styles. Know your audience.

Wow!

Being limited in my cognitive vernacular, I thusly do believe that this would happen to be an attempt to belittle the readers of this thread in a veiled way.

But, as stated, I could not be certain, as I am not a skilled of reader as the author of the quoted post would seem to be.

Sallington

AkeGamer wrote: »

Best lesson I learned in business about a year out of college: The New York Times is written at the 8th grade level and most people can't comprehend more advanced writing styles. Know your audience.

You can write about opinions in a mature way without coming across like a *** though.

MalZen

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Rikal

I read the whole original post. Don't know why but I "couldn't put it down" so to speak. It really is extraordinary. I'm not sure it's "effective" (no matter what the original intent), but it is extraordinary.

MalZen

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