Anchor Pinion Urban Legend Squashed

Lenikus

I never activate the pinions, but that's because i'm never lacking resources nor i need the dmg buff... but when people tell me to not do it, i activate them as soon as they pop just to spite them.

Elsonso

Lenikus wrote: »

I never activate the pinions, but that's because i'm never lacking resources nor i need the dmg buff... but when people tell me to not do it, i activate them as soon as they pop just to spite them.

As a general rule... You need to activate at least one pinion on the first hundred anchors for the chainbreaker achievement.

Darlgon

DaveMoeDee wrote: »

Darlgon wrote: »

Xendyn wrote: »

Not closing Anchor Pinions does not, I repeat does Not give you a chance at better loot or a better chance of General spawns.
Closing them does give you a 10% damage buff for all participants for 30 seconds plus refills your pools.
Go to 40:46 twitch.tv/zenimaxonlinestudios/v/13275883

Can we please stop perpetuating myths and yelling at people at anchors now?
(sorry, misinformation is a personal peeve)

Thank you for finally clearing this up ZOS

Personally, I never said that it did. HOWEVER, you have more daedra spawns. Killing more daedra raises your FIGHTERS GUILD faction faster AND GIVES YOU XP, even VR14s. So, unless you are tier 10 FG and dont want XP/CP, you want to not put the anchor pinions down until they stop spawning.

Perhaps the last pinion, but the first three pinions don't seem to have any effect on spawning.

GL keeping that pug away from ANY of the pinions, much less leaving one up with the rest down.

ntheogenic

Ahhh.. finally this has been clarified.. I have seen too many people yelling at others for activating those damn locks.
And every time you ask them: How do you know this is not a myth ? The answer is: I read that on <x>/ <y> said so.

I think people come up with these things because the human brain has two fundamental properties:

It always looks for patterns to make our lives manageable.
It is completely unable to process randomness and understand probabilities.

Now how about we also squash that "werewolves only come out on a full moon" myth while we are at it

traigusb14_ESO2

This myth followed me to Xbox. Doing my Generals thing with my Xbox alt and I have been listening to people literally losing their crap and screaming at by people a lot the last 2 weeks over this.

The last counter to the pinion thing I remember was on the Beta forums.

So, I asked them this .

For some reason they seemed to think I was pro-myth on the show

ntheogenic wrote: »

Now how about we also squash that "werewolves only come out on a full moon" myth while we are at it

Honestly, as I remember it, the moon thing was true (with vamps being on the opposite cycle)... then they un-linked it to moons to add to the randomness... because of all the jerk players ganking the mobs all the time (on the fixed schedule) to keep the bite price high.

Elsonso

ntheogenic wrote: »

Ahhh.. finally this has been clarified.. I have seen too many people yelling at others for activating those damn locks.

This will be replaced by the people yelling at you to not activate the LAST pinion until all the mobs have come down.

To that I say... if I need a pinion for my achievement, it's gonna get activated and activated right now because I am here and it can be activated. One or two extra daedra does justify losing a pinion to someone else.

Selique

If you're hurting for FG experience, just go to Coldharbour. Way more efficient to grind FG exp there than random 15 minute respawns of anchors. So there really is no reason to keep the pinions around.

CapnPhoton

I want the dye from the achievement, so I will be continuing to close them...

UrQuan

ntheogenic wrote: »

Ahhh.. finally this has been clarified.. I have seen too many people yelling at others for activating those damn locks.

It's been clarified by ZOS devs multiple times before (in writing!) and people still believe it... I'd like to think that them clarifying it this additional time might make a difference, but somehow I doubt it.

ntheogenic wrote: »

I think people come up with these things because the human brain has two fundamental properties:

It always looks for patterns to make our lives manageable.
It is completely unable to process randomness and understand probabilities.

This is very true. The part about looking for patterns is actually a vital evolutionary trait, without which we would never have survived as a species. It's how we, as a species, learned what things in our environment are safe and dangerous, as well as how we spot things that might be camouflaged predators lying in wait to attack us. It's the reason we see the man in the moon!

Darlgon

Selique wrote: »

If you're hurting for FG experience, just go to Coldharbour. Way more efficient to grind FG exp there than random 15 minute respawns of anchors. So there really is no reason to keep the pinions around.

Well.. thats ASSUMING you have access to Coldharbor. My goal is to always have my FG faction high enough for their passives BEFORE I do the start Coldharbor quest.

Jennifur_Vultee

UrQuan wrote: »

ntheogenic wrote: »

Ahhh.. finally this has been clarified.. I have seen too many people yelling at others for activating those damn locks.

It's been clarified by ZOS devs multiple times before (in writing!) and people still believe it... I'd like to think that them clarifying it this additional time might make a difference, but somehow I doubt it.

ntheogenic wrote: »

I think people come up with these things because the human brain has two fundamental properties:

It always looks for patterns to make our lives manageable.
It is completely unable to process randomness and understand probabilities.

This is very true. The part about looking for patterns is actually a vital evolutionary trait, without which we would never have survived as a species. It's how we, as a species, learned what things in our environment are safe and dangerous, as well as how we spot things that might be camouflaged predators lying in wait to attack us. It's the reason we see the man in the moon!

Ha! I knew the man in the moon was a predator! You can't fool me moon cheese man! I'm on to you. -_-

Amarynth

Jennifur_Vultee wrote: »

Ha! I knew the man in the moon was a predator! You can't fool me moon cheese man! I'm on to you. -_-

Return to the night! You've no business here!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0ORcveky3M

SirAndy

UrQuan wrote: »

It's been clarified by ZOS devs multiple times before (in writing!) and people still believe it... I'd like to think that them clarifying it this additional time might make a difference, but somehow I doubt it.

Who needs facts when you can just make up stuff!

SirAndy

Darlgon wrote: »

Selique wrote: »

If you're hurting for FG experience, just go to Coldharbour. Way more efficient to grind FG exp there than random 15 minute respawns of anchors. So there really is no reason to keep the pinions around.

Well.. thats ASSUMING you have access to Coldharbor.

"Travel to player" has worked for me on all my 8 characters, there is no level limit to Coldharbour.

Personofsecrets

what would be more interesting to know is the following.

@ZOS_GinaBruno ,

Are any of you aware of dolmen boss spawn chance being seeded? That is, there is a random variable, such as the time of day, that is a factor when the RNG of what enemy appears at the dolmen is calculated.

Rikal

UrQuan wrote: »

ntheogenic wrote: »

Ahhh.. finally this has been clarified.. I have seen too many people yelling at others for activating those damn locks.

It's been clarified by ZOS devs multiple times before (in writing!) and people still believe it... I'd like to think that them clarifying it this additional time might make a difference, but somehow I doubt it.

ntheogenic wrote: »

I think people come up with these things because the human brain has two fundamental properties:

It always looks for patterns to make our lives manageable.
It is completely unable to process randomness and understand probabilities.

This is very true. The part about looking for patterns is actually a vital evolutionary trait, without which we would never have survived as a species. It's how we, as a species, learned what things in our environment are safe and dangerous, as well as how we spot things that might be camouflaged predators lying in wait to attack us. It's the reason we see the man in the moon!

Looking for patterns, yes. Completely unable to process randomness and understand probabilities? You must only hang out with the very religious.

mrskinskull

Bump for truth!

I had no idea, some guy told me that and I had no info either way.
THIS GAME IS SO CONFUSING SOMETIMES.

I want my darn unicorn.

ElfFromSpace

Can you update the link to the source where they myth is clarified? The twitch link no longer works and I can't seem to find the right episode/time in the youtube versions. Which episode # was it in?

Xendyn

ElfFromSpace wrote: »

Can you update the link to the source where they myth is clarified? The twitch link no longer works and I can't seem to find the right episode/time in the youtube versions. Which episode # was it in?

Worked for me from the link but I refreshed it anyway. Hope that helps.

ElfFromSpace

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elePbsLlHL0 MINUTE 34. I found it!

pinkempyreal

I've been seeing the opposite. People complain because I close them as soon as they open...

Xendyn

pinkempyreal wrote: »

I've been seeing the opposite. People complain because I close them as soon as they open...

That's the point of this thread. It's a myth (which many of us have known it's a myth, I remember when it got started).
The superstitious people can now be officially...desuperstitiousfied (yes, I made that word up )

Ravici

Xendyn wrote: »

pinkempyreal wrote: »

I've been seeing the opposite. People complain because I close them as soon as they open...

That's the point of this thread. It's a myth (which many of us have known it's a myth, I remember when it got started).
The superstitious people can now be officially...desuperstitiousfied (yes, I made that word up )

Shouldn't that be desuperstitiousified

Just offering an idea for your word

ElfFromSpace

Ok so I'm really baffled. People that I know and respect continue to yell at strangers about it even after me showing them the ESO live. They argue 'It's tradition now'

*shakes head* I think it's really bad to yell at strangers over something particularly after you've been proven wrong

gard

jkemmery wrote: »

Some folks in guilds get really upset if you close the pinions. I've been chastised for it at least once, with the thread of being kicked from the guild.

You sure you want to guild with them? They sound like a bunch of tools.

Callous2208

Very enlightening. Now if you'll excuse me, I have some apologies to make and some bets to pay. /exitsinshame

Xendyn

ElfFromSpace wrote: »

Ok so I'm really baffled. People that I know and respect continue to yell at strangers about it even after me showing them the ESO live. They argue 'It's tradition now'

*shakes head* I think it's really bad to yell at strangers over something particularly after you've been proven wrong

I would have to agree lol. A "tradition" of yelling at people? Not something I'd be proud of.
People are very odd sometimes, especially when they want others to believe exactly what they believe, even to the point of starting wars over it.
Kinda reminds me of something in RL...