Mages Guild Meteor Ability Morph?

IOUAT

Ice Comet or Shooting Star for the Meteor ability for the mages guild . which one is better? anyone with this ability have any advice ? or does anyone really? i like the sound of ice comet though but shooting star sounds really cool too.

Nestor

Shooting Star. The Ultimate Regen is too nice to pass up.

UrQuan

It kind of depends. If you plan on using it primarily for boss fights, Ice Comet is nice because it straight up does more damage, and unless it happens to be a fight with a lot of adds, you wouldn't get that much extra ultimate from Shooting Star anyway.

For general use, though, I like Shooting Star better by far. When soloing dolmens, it's my best friend. I open up with a Shooting Star on the worm cultists (I wait until the max number of them are standing there to be hit by it), go in to finish them off, and then shortly after daedra start dropping my Shooting Star is ready to drop again. I usually end up using it several times in one dolmen.

Ratbert

Yeah both sorc's I run with in my group use shooting star. Great for the add clearing so they say. We'll group them up, they drop comet and i'll drop my nova. If we have to pull things into tunnels or around corners to cluster them we do that as well when there are a lot of casters or archers that won't move.

IOUAT

wait ice commet does more damage than shooting star? how?

Jeckll

Mugetsu wrote: »

wait ice commet does more damage than shooting star? how?

Check the tooltip. Ice Comet does more damage, Shooting Star gives Ultimate.

For Single Target DPS, use Ice Comet always. Only exception are DKs with their increased fire damage. Shooting Star is nice vs Trash, but Ice Comet is the real deal vs bosses.

IOUAT

Jeckll wrote: »

Mugetsu wrote: »

wait ice commet does more damage than shooting star? how?

Check the tooltip. Ice Comet does more damage, Shooting Star gives Ultimate.

For Single Target DPS, use Ice Comet always. Only exception are DKs with their increased fire damage. Shooting Star is nice vs Trash, but Ice Comet is the real deal vs bosses.

trash?

Jeckll

Mugetsu wrote: »

Jeckll wrote: »

Mugetsu wrote: »

wait ice commet does more damage than shooting star? how?

Check the tooltip. Ice Comet does more damage, Shooting Star gives Ultimate.

For Single Target DPS, use Ice Comet always. Only exception are DKs with their increased fire damage. Shooting Star is nice vs Trash, but Ice Comet is the real deal vs bosses.

trash?

Groups of mobs, usually located between two dungeon bosses, are called "trash". More simplistic: Against groups of multiple enemies, Shooting Star is better, against single enemies, Ice Comet is the way to go.

FriedEggSandwich

Mugetsu wrote: »

Jeckll wrote: »

Mugetsu wrote: »

wait ice commet does more damage than shooting star? how?

Check the tooltip. Ice Comet does more damage, Shooting Star gives Ultimate.

For Single Target DPS, use Ice Comet always. Only exception are DKs with their increased fire damage. Shooting Star is nice vs Trash, but Ice Comet is the real deal vs bosses.

trash?

Trash mobs, i.e. not bosses, tend to be lots of them. I would add that I think Ice Comet is a better choice in pvp, whereas Shooting Star strikes me as better for pve. Exceptions would be if you only zerg in pvp, or if you wanted a boss ultimate in pve, then I would switch my choices.

Brrrofski

I want with shooting star.I'm a DK.

Chuck engulfing flames on a mob, dark talons, meteor, half my ultimate back and everything is melting.

I'm a tank, so it's nice to help dps focus on boss by sometimes also aggroing a mob, stack them on boss and drop shooting on them all.

IOUAT

yeah i would think the ultimate bonus would be better but i guess not

UrQuan

Brrrofski wrote: »

I want with shooting star.I'm a DK.

Chuck engulfing flames on a mob, dark talons, meteor, half my ultimate back and everything is melting.

I'm a tank, so it's nice to help dps focus on boss by sometimes also aggroing a mob, stack them on boss and drop shooting on them all.

Ha ha, this is literally exactly what my DK does! I love it!

Brrrofski

Helps that the DPS and healer I run with have it too.

Stack adds on the boss, do as I said above, triple meteor. Someone activates my talons synergy, dps sorc drops whatever gives the conduit synergy (lightning splash maybe) and things just melt. It's a lot of fun when it comes together

Springt-Über-Zwerge

Ice comet is more damage unless you are dunmer and the slow is nice for pvp but shooting star is bigger in big groups. So totally depents on your taste and playstyle. I use shooting star on my dk and ice comet in my templar

Gilvoth

be aware that they can both be reflected by a dragonight. its nice when the meteor destroys people in pvp but it is truely a nightmare to have it reflected and hit you instead of the enemy.

Springt-Über-Zwerge

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

be aware that they can both be reflected by a dragonight. its nice when the meteor destroys people in pvp but it is truely a nightmare to have it reflected and hit you instead of the enemy.

I just counter their reflect by using eclipse in the very last moment. Most dks go full offense because they think the meteor will hit me resulting in ritting them unblocked followed by my jesus beam = a dead dk

IOUAT

Springt-Über-Zwerge wrote: »

Ice comet is more damage unless you are dunmer and the slow is nice for pvp but shooting star is bigger in big groups. So totally depents on your taste and playstyle. I use shooting star on my dk and ice comet in my templar

im usually a pve if that helps but hope to dabble in pvp soon

Springt-Über-Zwerge

Mugetsu wrote: »

Springt-Über-Zwerge wrote: »

Ice comet is more damage unless you are dunmer and the slow is nice for pvp but shooting star is bigger in big groups. So totally depents on your taste and playstyle. I use shooting star on my dk and ice comet in my templar

im usually a pve if that helps but hope to dabble in pvp soon

Totally up to you. Its one of the few skills where both morphs are good and both have its pros and cons

IOUAT

Springt-Über-Zwerge wrote: »

Mugetsu wrote: »

Springt-Über-Zwerge wrote: »

Ice comet is more damage unless you are dunmer and the slow is nice for pvp but shooting star is bigger in big groups. So totally depents on your taste and playstyle. I use shooting star on my dk and ice comet in my templar

im usually a pve if that helps but hope to dabble in pvp soon

Totally up to you. Its one of the few skills where both morphs are good and both have its pros and cons

what are the pros and cons of both morphs? i hear ice comet does more dmg but shooting star is better forrrrrrrr ? pve? and ice comet is for pvp?

Brrrofski

Well don't discount shooting star for dps and dumner on pvp.

It's fire damage and they both have fire debunks.

Springt-Über-Zwerge

Mugetsu wrote: »

Springt-Über-Zwerge wrote: »

Mugetsu wrote: »

Springt-Über-Zwerge wrote: »

Ice comet is more damage unless you are dunmer and the slow is nice for pvp but shooting star is bigger in big groups. So totally depents on your taste and playstyle. I use shooting star on my dk and ice comet in my templar

im usually a pve if that helps but hope to dabble in pvp soon

Totally up to you. Its one of the few skills where both morphs are good and both have its pros and cons

what are the pros and cons of both morphs? i hear ice comet does more dmg but shooting star is better forrrrrrrr ? pve? and ice comet is for pvp?

Ice comet also has an 85% slow which is nice for pvp but shooting star returns 9 ultimade for each enemy hit so if you hit a big group you will most likely have it up to 50% again which allows you to use it more often. But if you want to use it for single target damage ice comet is stronger

Brrrofski

Shooting star is 12 ultimate gained per person when fully leveled

Springt-Über-Zwerge

Brrrofski wrote: »

Shooting star is 12 ultimate gained per person when fully leveled

Oh okay sry my misstake

Brrrofski

Lol, not having a go, just saying. Every little adds up when it comes to ultimate's. The amount of time it pings as I get killed! A second earlier and everything could be different

IOUAT

Springt-Über-Zwerge wrote: »

Mugetsu wrote: »

Springt-Über-Zwerge wrote: »

Mugetsu wrote: »

Springt-Über-Zwerge wrote: »

Ice comet is more damage unless you are dunmer and the slow is nice for pvp but shooting star is bigger in big groups. So totally depents on your taste and playstyle. I use shooting star on my dk and ice comet in my templar

im usually a pve if that helps but hope to dabble in pvp soon

Totally up to you. Its one of the few skills where both morphs are good and both have its pros and cons

what are the pros and cons of both morphs? i hear ice comet does more dmg but shooting star is better forrrrrrrr ? pve? and ice comet is for pvp?

Ice comet also has an 85% slow which is nice for pvp but shooting star returns 9 ultimade for each enemy hit so if you hit a big group you will most likely have it up to 50% again which allows you to use it more often. But if you want to use it for single target damage ice comet is stronger

shooting star doesnt have any slow effect?

Brrrofski

No, it doesn't

IOUAT

Brrrofski wrote: »

No, it doesn't

so ice commet has the damage buff plus slow effect and shooting star just gives ultimate i see. hard choice to make

Brrrofski

Yes. But, if you are a DK like myself, there are buffs that increase fire damage. So shooting star does a bit more damage then as it's fire damage.

Septimus_Magna

I use Shooting Star, especially if you fight daedra (fights guild passives) and hit a group the ulitmate is almost instantly up again.

IOUAT

Brrrofski wrote: »

Yes. But, if you are a DK like myself, there are buffs that increase fire damage. So shooting star does a bit more damage then as it's fire damage.

im a sorcerer does that help any?

leepalmer95

Springt-Über-Zwerge wrote: »

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

be aware that they can both be reflected by a dragonight. its nice when the meteor destroys people in pvp but it is truely a nightmare to have it reflected and hit you instead of the enemy.

I just counter their reflect by using eclipse in the very last moment. Most dks go full offense because they think the meteor will hit me resulting in ritting them unblocked followed by my jesus beam = a dead dk

I love meteor reflecting on my dk...

Double meteor reflecting another dk is even better.