This was a fun game until...

dwtdwtdwt

a.skelton92 wrote: »

Power SHOULD come to those who have commited more time and effort. If I see a V14 I don't expect to compete against them I seek to compete against those of a similar strength. Getting obliterated only excites me more for what is to come.

xxMcKev

Stay in PVE and lvl up. Learn your character. I am a Vet 8 and still don't know my character 100%.

Flaminir

I REALLY don't understand the forum hyperbole about the vet grind now though... I remember when it was around 4MILLION XP to gain a vet level! Now THAT was a grind... its about to be just 850k XP AND there are XP boosters etc.

I gained 1 vet level per hour last night grinding an alt up..... that's hardly an epic grind!

There are now enough options on how to level... questing (With the xp increase coming), grinding, a mixture. It's not too bad. I'll kind of miss vet ranks when they go just be replaced by CP.

mrdankles

Only MMO I played was wow until, after so long grew away from it. I don't see the purpose of veteran ranks... Why not make the grind harder from 40-50? Never played any elder scrolls until this one! I've always been a fan of huge online games (played wow since BC), the fact of getting max level was easy yes, but not so much the work for the best gear you could get at the time. I love ESO, just not really feeling the champion points (stupid IMO, really unbalances the game), I feel it makes it unfair in a way, rather than just our regular passives and rely on skills to win (I only PVP). Not into the scripted dragon slaying..

Rikal

Agree: vet levels get easier as you go. Or they at least feel like they do. I remember the 1st couple toons VR1-2, and VR2-3 felt like forever but levels beyond that it was not so bad. But curiously my next few toons VR1-2 and 2-3 etc felt a lot quicker. They probably weren't but they felt that way.

Disagree: you can't just keep spamming one ability at vet levels. I think it may depend on the ability. Are you sure Templars can't just "puncturing sweep" their way through all PvE content. It sure seems like they can;)

Techlisp

I get one shotted in PvP, I don't throw my toys out of a pram. I just, you know, respawn.

TequilaFire

This was a fun game until I read the forums! lmao

Huckdabuck

JD2013 wrote: »

F7sus4 wrote: »

mrdankles wrote: »

This was a fun game until...

...they released it in March 2014.

It was released in April 2014.

Nice try!

Official launch date was April 4, 2014. Early release date was March 30, 2014.

http://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/2014/03/25/early-access-and-launch-faq

F7sus4

JD2013 wrote: »

F7sus4 wrote: »

mrdankles wrote: »

This was a fun game until...

...they released it in March 2014.

It was released in April 2014.

Nice try!

Ever heard of preorder? The game was launched live 30th March 2014.

Asherons_Call

"This was a fun game until"

Ooh I got one!

"The argonians started streaking"

QuebraRegra

mrdankles wrote: »

Veteran rank. Really? One shot in pvp, insane amount of exp to level. Why? What's the meaning of this, why can't we just have a level cap?! Literally killed the game for me... Time to let it collect some dust until zeni max can do something right...

You haven't figured out the solution yet?

STAY IN NON-VET PVP... just keep making alts and keep having fun. Eventually it'll get polluted with bleedover CP, but it's as close as you can come to balanced play.

IC is sposta to do Battle leveling for the vet campaigns, but we'll see,

Kavatchian

Until you hit Veteran rank take the option to play in Non-Veteran ranked PVP. I've had some of the best times in PVP in those Campaigns. People are going to brag, and boast about how easy it is or what have you on Veteran levels, but truth is it's up to your gaming style. Being a MMO you have to invest a larger amount of time playing the game. If your gaming time varies like mine it maybe harder for you to go up fast in Veteran Ranks.

My advice is just to stick with it, and play at your own pace. Try not to let a couple bad experiences ruin the game for you. There is so much to do in the game, and many ways to play it. Good luck to you man!

Kobaal

Looks like something rankled the dankles.

yodased

Avenias wrote: »

I agree with u. Vet lvls suck. I love challenging games, but i cant stand games that has grindwalls to break before you can qualify for the challenge. Most ppl cant differentiate between those 2.

There are no walls to "qualify"

My vr1 nightblade, vr1 vampire DK, Vr7 sorc and vr7 templar do just fine in both PvE and PvP.

Hell my sorc was dpsing Vet COA and DSA at Vr6 with no issues and 7 vet levels aren't making my shields that much stronger.

I mean, if you need to be exactly on the same level numbers wise as a VR14 to win in PvP then you are going to get just as destroyed at max level as you do at Vr1.

JD2013

Huckdabuck wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

F7sus4 wrote: »

mrdankles wrote: »

This was a fun game until...

...they released it in March 2014.

It was released in April 2014.

Nice try!

Official launch date was April 4, 2014. Early release date was March 30, 2014.

http://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/2014/03/25/early-access-and-launch-faq

I go by official release dates if indeed we are going by that, of sorts I've had early access longer. Just beta.

Irrespective, if this game is no fun for you, why hang around?

Lightninvash

game was fun till... oh wait it still is so quit complaining and play the game or stop playing its a simple choice

Molag_Crow

It's like the younger generation of gamers these days are all for quick, easy games that take no effort or time, or they get too bored... I don't know...

sadownik

CrowsDescend wrote: »

It's like the younger generation of gamers these days are all for quick, easy games that take no effort or time, or they get too bored... I don't know...

Or perhaps since the main "endgame" is pvp people want to stay alive for longer than 2 seconds and event get a kill from time to time. Or perhaps is that cadwell silver and gold feel like warmed up meal - more of the same but not so good? Or perhpas people dont have that much time on their hands since we gamer grown up? I don't know...

Gyudan

[Woops, wrong thread.]

starkerealm

Gyudan wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

Makkir wrote: »

When you installed the game, you did see that it was Elder Scrolls Online and not Skyrim right?

To be fair, +60 leveling in Skyrim was more of a pain than vet ranks in ESO.

Well, before the patch that let you roll back skill lines anyway. I suspect it was a lot easier after that.

To be fair, while +60 leveling in Skyrim takes longer, the game is also more enjoyable than ESO.
Skyrim doesn't reward grinding pigs/goblins.

You say that like you never wedged your controller into your desk, and left the Dragonborn casting detect life in Riften for 40 minutes while you made dinner... or was that just me?

Thing is, I like ESO, I like Skyrim... but they're not at all the same game. Without mods? I'd actually have to give it to ESO. Skyrim late game used to be, "well we know you like this playstyle, but it won't give you any experience anymore, so time to try something new that you might not like." Where as ESO, if I'm doing a Nightblade, I don't need to transform into a Dragon Knight to advance past V4, because I maxed out sneak, light armor, marksman, and one handed, and just don't get experience for playing the game they way I wanted to.

Modded? I love Skyrim. The ability to tweak values and get exactly the game I want from it? That's sublime. But, I also wouldn't expect that from an MMO. And if it's a competition, I still love Morrowind more than Skryim. It was just so weird.

But, hey, farming Falmer was rewarding.

F7sus4

JD2013 wrote: »

if this game is no fun for you, why hang around?

The last actual content update was Craglorn. Around a year ago. And if they make a console version out of greed afterwards, just to completely ignore the already established player-base on PC, then something went simply wrong and someone missed the common sense. However, mistakes are repairable - mostly. So here comes the chance - a late one, but still.

Scyantific

Is OP a console player? That would explain why he's got entitlement issues about getting to the endgame in like a day.

Van_0S

If you want to REALLY lvl then I recommend finding a GRP of mobs( the best zombies ).
You will lvl up 2 vet in a day I tried it and it work though very borinnng but effective.
In the new patch forget about grind and do questing for that will give you more exp.

PBpsy

1.6

waterfairy

I'm taking my time because I enjoy not having to grind and know that will change with vet ranks which will likely kill the game for me as well as I have no interest in all the vet PvP crap I read about here.

nimander99

I guess Im prolly the minority but it was Vet Ranks (the idea of continuous leveling) that brought me to ESO then the Champ System came out and Ive been overjoyed since. Nothing ends an mmorpg for me faster than hitting cap...

Master_Kas

VR levels are a pain in the ass to level. Even if you can do it pretty fast with gold-zone grinds / CWC. (using partner + XP pots ofcourse)

After leveling multiple characters to VR14, I still have some characters I want to level. Only reason I'm not doing it is because of those pesky levels

Pizza_Magician

what we wanted was elder scrolls online, what we got was just another gear grind.

Scyantific

Pizza_Magician wrote: »

what we wanted was elder scrolls online, what we got was just another gear grind.

So another MMO.

Ok.

delushin

You can get a VR level in an hour with Plus, scrolls and a partner ... buy scrolls and help fund the devs so they can keep making content for me please!