Group finder - improvement suggestion: GL can initiate the dungeon summoning there everyone

Winterpsy

Some topics need to be brought up frequently untill improved/addressed.

Group finder received a lot of critics. Previously I had very few problems with it. Playing a tank I got into a group easily.
Lately I noticed something however I havent before:

Running a lowbie healer templar, with only Healer as group role adjusted. Avarage wait time for starter dungeons are around 1-1,5 hour.
When getting into queue one of the following happens:

- Group assembled, usually 1-2 people remains doing whatever they are doing. They cannot be communicated with. If the group leader is inexperienced he wont kick them out of the group.
- Group assembled, 1 person leaves, the others follow.
- Group leader fails to put the gorup back on queue if not full

Eventually I leave the queue and start it from the beginning with the need to wait another 1,5 hour.

Suggestions:

If group assembled, group leader can initiate the dungeon teleporting everyone inside. Give it a countdown timer allowing players to find a safe place, wrap things up. Like 1-2 mins.

Put in a tutorial how to use the group finder tool. Sometimes I have a feeling players have absolutely no idea how to use it. They just stand outside the dungeon in hope someone comes by and they can join.

Nathano

Unfortunately any suggestions for improving the group finder seem to fall on deaf ears. There are been hundreds of threads on the state of the group finder since PC launch and there has been very little improvement since then. It's frustrating as the group dungeons in this game are one of it's best features yet getting a public group together is a challenging task. I feel very sorry to console users as at least on PC we can use text chat to organise groups and don't have to rely on the group finder.

Winterpsy

I simply fail to understand why players put themselves on the queue when they dont join the group if one gets assembled.
And furthermore, why do they leave, log out once they are selected to a group.



Maybe everyone's just waiting for the other to get into the dungeon first so they can travel to player for free?

Torodal

The group finder is a complete joke as is my growing opinion of Zenimax. How anyone can think this is even able to be called a group finder means they should loose their job. It should just be turned off until it's addressed. The only other option is to sit in your major city and wait for people to form a group. But you also get to enjoy the 14 year old kids who just giggle about things children their age find funny. Zenimax is running this game into the ground. I just sat in group finder for 3 1/2 hours without even forming a failed group. I can assure I will not be buying an expansion and doubt I will continue to play this game for much longer I have also talked a dozen of my friends out of buying the game due to these issues. I am glad I could save them all $60 and prevent Zenimax from getting almost another $1k. I only hope others age done the same.

Scyantific

*Says Tank LFG in zone chat*
*Gets multiple invites in seconds*

Austacker

Scyantific wrote: »

*Says Tank LFG in zone chat*
*Gets multiple invites in seconds*

Says 'healer LFG in zone chat'

Faces this : https://youtube.com/watch?v=yxORXrprflo

Gives up.

Because console doesn't 'need' a text chat option in ESO didn't you know?

likelolwhat

Torodal wrote: »

The group finder is a complete joke as is my growing opinion of Zenimax. How anyone can think this is even able to be called a group finder means they should loose their job. It should just be turned off until it's addressed. The only other option is to sit in your major city and wait for people to form a group. But you also get to enjoy the 14 year old kids who just giggle about things children their age find funny. Zenimax is running this game into the ground. I just sat in group finder for 3 1/2 hours without even forming a failed group. I can assure I will not be buying an expansion and doubt I will continue to play this game for much longer I have also talked a dozen of my friends out of buying the game due to these issues. I am glad I could save them all $60 and prevent Zenimax from getting almost another $1k. I only hope others age done the same.

Tell us how you really feel!

In any case, please take yourself elsewhere if you don't want to play the game. I can understand being frustrated but quitting over the GROUP FINDER? Please. (And why haven't you quit already if you're actively badmouthing the game to your friends? I mean, what?!)

EDIT: Oops, forgot OP's point. I think that's a great idea! My PUGs have gone well thus far, but I can easily see how it could go awry if people aren't responding or whatever. (And group leaders need to know to kick them, too!)

BaconMagic

I ran two vet and two normal pledges today with PUGs. Groups were running in less than 20mins from queue. XB NA in AD and DC. Completed all with no wipes even. This was during business hours EST, fwiw.

Bash-ley

I agree with op, what really bugs me is when I'm half way through the dungeon with what seems to be a good group - then out of nowhere the group leader disbands the group which then kicks everyone out!

This has happened to me so many times, every time I've added the other two players to my group to see if it would let me continue as group leader, but it still kicks us all! Even though the group is re-built, just without the original leader! So frustrating!

Torodal

likelolwhat wrote: »

Torodal wrote: »

The group finder is a complete joke as is my growing opinion of Zenimax. How anyone can think this is even able to be called a group finder means they should loose their job. It should just be turned off until it's addressed. The only other option is to sit in your major city and wait for people to form a group. But you also get to enjoy the 14 year old kids who just giggle about things children their age find funny. Zenimax is running this game into the ground. I just sat in group finder for 3 1/2 hours without even forming a failed group. I can assure I will not be buying an expansion and doubt I will continue to play this game for much longer I have also talked a dozen of my friends out of buying the game due to these issues. I am glad I could save them all $60 and prevent Zenimax from getting almost another $1k. I only hope others age done the same.

Tell us how you really feel!

In any case, please take yourself elsewhere if you don't want to play the game. I can understand being frustrated but quitting over the GROUP FINDER? Please. (And why haven't you quit already if you're actively badmouthing the game to your friends? I mean, what?!)

EDIT: Oops, forgot OP's point. I think that's a great idea! My PUGs have gone well thus far, but I can easily see how it could go awry if people aren't responding or whatever. (And group leaders need to know to kick them, too!)

I did tell you how I really feel.......that's why I wrote it. I will keep myself right here and keep speaking my mind about what's wrong with the game. If not then nothing is changed or fixed. You ask why I would quit over a group finder not working in an MMO!?!? ITS AN MMO!!!!! It's entire existence is based around the idea of playing with other people and it fails miserably at it from a pve stand point. And finally I haven't quit because the game has a lot of redeeming qualities but my patience are running thin with the slow or lack of support. Why do you think they went free to play? The game wasn't ready and TONS of people bailed on it. I don't mean buggy I mean flat out not ready for release. I played PC in beta and release and it was a train wreck. Even after an extra year from the console version being postponed these simple issues are here. Your comments/arguments are laughable at best.

zornyan

Ps4 eu here, group finder works 80% of the time within 20 mins, 1 in about 5 groups people don't get together, the rest have been absolutely fine and completed without issue (including some vr dungeons)

Best thing I do now is ask in the dedicated dungeon guild on voice chat, quick and easy

Thymos

Regardless, I don't like this suggestion.

I've gone hours in a queue, and I didn't just sit there and wait. I went out questing. If I were in the middle of finishing up a quest, I would definitely hate it if all the sudden the queue popped and I was forced to teleport away from finishing the quest. Regardless if I get a 2 minute timer.

If this suggestion were implemented, I believe you'd actually see less people using the group finder.

Dradhok

Winterpsy wrote: »

I simply fail to understand why players put themselves on the queue when they dont join the group if one gets assembled.
And furthermore, why do they leave, log out once they are selected to a group.



Maybe everyone's just waiting for the other to get into the dungeon first so they can travel to player for free?

I’ve wondered the same thing and then I found myself drop the other day shortly after the queue popped. The reason I dropped is that I had been in the queue for six hours before it finally popped and I looked at the clock and it was midnight. If I didn’t have to be up at 6 am I would have loved to run the dungeon. My bad for not taking my self out of the worthless queue.

NewBlacksmurf

Improvements to the grouping tools are definitely a community interest but it seems the reaction as of now is cross faction grouping