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Please fix instatnt Veteran 15 levelling up

Katinas
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For veteran 14 character all it takes to level up to veteran 15 is to kill one mob or otherwise gain a minimum of experience. So on a third level-cap this game has seen everyone will be halfway through the increased level cap the moment they kill a skeever or open a lockbox. Please fix it!
  • actosh
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    No need to fix it. We played a lot and everyone can do it. Just get vr14 collect 1 mill of additional xp and you r done ^^.
  • Domander
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    Don't change that, we've been vr14 plus capped xp.. that xp should be used for something.
  • Mojmir
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    Katinas wrote: »
    For veteran 14 character all it takes to level up to veteran 15 is to kill one mob or otherwise gain a minimum of experience. So on a third level-cap this game has seen everyone will be halfway through the increased level cap the moment they kill a skeever or open a lockbox. Please fix it!

    are u @#!ing serious? so all the xp ive earned all this time should get wiped?
    hell no!!
    Lock this thread FFS
  • Katinas
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    Mojmir wrote: »
    are u @#!ing serious? so all the xp ive earned all this time should get wiped?
    hell no!!
    Lock this thread FFS
    Are you serious? The upcoming update adds two veteran ranks. You want it to become just one rank the moment you gain any kind of experience (killing one mob that grants experience, exploring unvisited location, opening a locked box, completing a quest, etc.)? I want two veteran ranks, not one. I want to level up not in a matter of seconds but rather hours.
  • WolfgangArmadeus
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    Agree with op... vr 15 should require full xp, when you reach vr 14 the xp bar should remain empty until the lvl cap raises... its basically like you are only raising 1 lvl because everyone is already 1 mob away from vr15... Stoopid!
  • Dekkameron
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    I don't understand why anyone WOULDN'T want banked exp to count to the next level...

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  • lucian_banneb18_ESO
    If you want to level-up, just make another character and you will have not hours, but days of levelling experience... :)
  • Katinas
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    Dekkameron wrote: »
    I don't understand why anyone WOULDN'T want banked exp to count to the next level...

    If they added ten veteran ranks then that would make sense, but we only get two. Can you give me an example how anyone who has a veteran 14 main character would have a gameplay experience of two full veteran ranks instead of just one?
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    Katinas wrote: »
    Dekkameron wrote: »
    I don't understand why anyone WOULDN'T want banked exp to count to the next level...

    If they added ten veteran ranks then that would make sense, but we only get two. Can you give me an example how anyone who has a veteran 14 main character would have a gameplay experience of two full veteran ranks instead of just one?

    You still have the gameplay experience of just doing all the new content, why does it have to gain you levels as well? Think of it as a bonus leg-up not a hindrence.
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  • Personofsecrets
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    why does this matter?
  • Katinas
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    But the current level cap is veteran 14, it is not veteran 14,5 or veteran 14,99. I don't want a dumbed down system where you don't even feel like you've done anything and here you are immediately at next rank when you've downloaded the update and were not required to do absolutely anything. You don't need to do any quests, don't even need to kill a few goblins in Cyrodiil, you are immediately veteran 15. The only people who will have to gain experience to level up from v14 to v15 are those that have just reached v14 literally before the upcoming patch. Do you want entire ESO community to be only given v15 to v16 experience of gameplay whereas v14 to v15 is just cosmetical? I don't want that and it makes me feel robbed.
  • Dekkameron
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    The levels were added just so they could whack in new equipment that used the Telvar stones to create that would force anyone wanting max level gear to purchase/sub the DLC.

    I'm sure they probably wanted to add an extra 5 levels not just 2 originally but thought better of it.
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  • Wreuntzylla
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    Katinas wrote: »
    Dekkameron wrote: »
    I don't understand why anyone WOULDN'T want banked exp to count to the next level...

    If they added ten veteran ranks then that would make sense, but we only get two. Can you give me an example how anyone who has a veteran 14 main character would have a gameplay experience of two full veteran ranks instead of just one?

    Your comment is insightful. Why would ZoS only add 2 veteran levels? It's so little! Why add any veteran levels, especially when they are removing the veteran system at some point???

    I think it's partially about their recent moves to make gold improvement mats more rare. First step was move the gold mats from hirelings to refinement. Next step is force everyone to redo their gear to flush inventory.

    It's clearly not to give you a richer leveling experience, they are giving you one for no effort...
  • Mojmir
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    So all the xp I earned from the last cap up til should go bye bye? Maybe I don't want too repeat stuff to get that xp back,while we're at it all the skills I leveled should go back too? Get real,stop imposing on my gametime. Its a hindrance if you DONT allow the xp I've earned to count.
    Edited by Mojmir on August 16, 2015 8:53AM
  • Farorin
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    I am so sick of the *** grind.

    I felt pit of despair forming in my stomach when the two extra vet ranks were announced, so I am hoping that we get to skip at least one of them if our vet 14 character has max exp. Then at least it won't be as bad.

    I like the fact that my main almost instantly hit v15, it was awesome, and gave me a window of hope.
    Edited by Farorin on August 16, 2015 9:02AM
  • Katinas
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    Why stop with 99% of a veteran rank worth of experience you can stack up between months of one level cap and the next? Why not then store infinite number of veteran ranks and be imediately granted all veteran ranks that are added with each level cap increase in major patches? So you immediately become veteran 16 when 2.1 comes out at the end of this month, then at next major upgrade you are immediately veteran 18, then in next few months you are immediately veteran 20? Can I pre-grind seventy eight veteran ranks worth of experience?
    Mojmir wrote: »
    So all the xp I earned from the last cap up til should go bye bye? Maybe I don't want too repeat stuff to get that xp back,while we're at it all the skills I leveled should go back too? Get real,stop imposing on my gametime. Its a hindrance if you DONT allow the xp I've earned to count.

    Yes. There should be no option to gain experience in advance prior to any upcoming level cap increase.
    Similar leveling up nonsense to what exists at the moment would be to allow the handful of existing Grand Overlords to stack alliance points to a possible added alliance rank so that they would instantly advance in next alliance rank if it were added in future.

    Do you see my point? Levelling up for one veteran rank is absolutely trivial, it takes one hour or so but I want to do it when the upgrade comes and not have it granted for me in some non existent veteran 14,001 -> 14,999.
    Edited by Katinas on August 16, 2015 9:37AM
  • Carter_DC
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    Seriously ?
    VR15 to VR16 took me 1h05 to grind on the pts. You really think having to farm the full VR15 is gonna change anything ?

    Btw, i've been VR14 for almost a year, I'd say 1 year worth of dungeons, raids and pvp is worth 850k xp
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  • scorpo46b16_ESO
    are you also gonna ask them to fix the fact i can hand in 850k worht of quests in to get 16 instantly as well? 850k is barely over 2 champion points thats nothing this is not even worth your topic
    Edited by scorpo46b16_ESO on August 16, 2015 10:08AM
  • whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO
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    it's because the XP requirement for VR14 to VR15 is now 850k (when Imperial City drops) and we already accrued 1 million xp, if not more on our original characters to get to VR14 and beyond. So yeah our VR14 characters are gonna be leveled up to VR15 instantly..
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    it's because the XP requirement for VR14 to VR15 is now 850k (when Imperial City drops) and we already accrued 1 million xp, if not more on our original characters to get to VR14 and beyond. So yeah our VR14 characters are gonna be leveled up to VR15 instantly..

    As well as they should, consider it somewhat of a trade off for all the BS nerfs, lag,*** cluster@#$% we've had to endure getting that xp
  • Docmandu
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    The only reason they're adding new VR's is to make your gear useless, not to make you grind yet another week on mobs.

    Stupid suggestion imho.. you like grinding, make a new character and you'll have 66 levels to grind out, should make you happy.
  • The Uninvited
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    Katinas wrote: »
    Yes. There should be no option to gain experience in advance prior to any upcoming level cap increase.

    They also told us they were going to remove veteran ranks.
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  • F7sus4
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    Katinas wrote: »
    Are you serious? The upcoming update adds two veteran ranks.
    Yes, I guess he is. It would be just up to 2h of casual grinding more. Seriously, it doesn't really matter.

    <3

    Edited by F7sus4 on August 16, 2015 10:50AM
  • WolfgangArmadeus
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    Granted the lvl grind is annoying to say the least, instantly hitting the next lvl is just silly... Its a strange occurence tho, i appreciate the instant lvl cause it means less grind, but in terms of creating an alt or starting fresh it just adds to the grind anyways... Its like they add "filler" that doesnt really affect maxed players, but makes the lvl grind more daunting for alts and under-lvl players... I dont even want to consider the extra 2 week grind for new comers, coupled with the fact that there isnt enough content to support the lvl raise without grinding in the first place...

    No matter, this game lost touch a long time ago...
  • AhPook_Is_Here
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    no.
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  • Paulhewhewria
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    HaHA where's that LOL button damn this is the funniest thing I've ever seen on this forum.We've earned that vr15 rank all ready don't like it?Too bad.
  • Docmandu
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    Granted the lvl grind is annoying to say the least, instantly hitting the next lvl is just silly... Its a strange occurence tho, i appreciate the instant lvl cause it means less grind, but in terms of creating an alt or starting fresh it just adds to the grind anyways... Its like they add "filler" that doesnt really affect maxed players, but makes the lvl grind more daunting for alts and under-lvl players... I dont even want to consider the extra 2 week grind for new comers, coupled with the fact that there isnt enough content to support the lvl raise without grinding in the first place...

    No matter, this game lost touch a long time ago...

    New characters (alts) will need about the same amount of XP to get to VR16 as you need for VR14 now.. biggest hurdle is having to do that damn main quest AND Cadwell's Silver quests.. since it will be a very long grind to VR16 if you can't access Cadwell's Silver/Gold zones.

    Still think they should remove the requirement to do the main quest and cadwell's silver, to be able to access silver/gold zones IF you have done it on at least 1 character on the account. It's the most tedious part of getting an alt to VR14, doing main/silver.

  • VincentBlanquin
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    how dare you katinas :p

    you must be the one zenimax mention in their live show who like veteran ranks )) //////kidding/////

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  • vortexman11
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    The amount of experience needed to level up veteran ranks was reduced from 1,000,000 to 850,000, meaning that we're not only entitled to get to Vr15, but with the extra 2,100,000 experience we have, we should be raised instantly to VR16 and even Vr17 if it was ever put in the game.

    Of course they're not doing that because they don't care about the time we spent grinding/questing and they think everyone absolutely loves grinding/questing.
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    please dont...
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