siphoning strikes toggle morph

kungmoo

please... give us the other toggle morph for siphoning strikes.... it was a key ability for nb tanking.... not the healing morph

I love my nb tank and I really don't want to force him into a life of a crafting bot

Domander

Yeah I kind of lol'd at this... what can ya do..

Spiderwebs

Same. And that's where she's gonna go at this rate - right to the crafting table.

Xeniph

I really don't understand this teams fetish for light/heavy attacks. So many of the new sets 5peices require them.

EDIT: After some thought, I suppose they could be trying to artificially lower DPS by requiring more and more light/heavy attacks. /shrug

Spiderwebs

Xeniph wrote: »

I really don't understand this teams fetish for light/heavy attacks. So many of the new sets 5peices require them.

Right? Especially when we could be doing like...literally anything else.

Especially while tanking. If I'm dropping my block, it ain't for no measly light attack.

omfgitsbatman

Seriously... siphoning attacks is still good. Refreshing every 15 seconds is not terrible for what will still be one of the best skills in the game for tanking.

Elijah_Crow

omfgitsbatman wrote: »

Seriously... siphoning attacks is still good. Refreshing every 15 seconds is not terrible for what will still be one of the best skills in the game for tanking.

Except that the duration is still 10 seconds long and it seems not to proc at all.

PBpsy

Xeniph wrote: »

I really don't understand this teams fetish for light/heavy attacks. So many of the new sets 5peices require them.

EDIT: After some thought, I suppose they could be trying to artificially lower DPS by requiring more and more light/heavy attacks. /shrug

I always felt it was their way of making melee combat feel more like the single player TES combat from TES 3-5. The only problem was that that was kind of always one of the low points of the series IMO.Slow and clunky and all over the place.

GreyRanger

omfgitsbatman wrote: »

Seriously... siphoning attacks is still good. Refreshing every 15 seconds is not terrible for what will still be one of the best skills in the game for tanking.

Except that the current activation cost requires that you execute 3 light attacks before our get yourself out of the hole you dug by activating this trap/power. So, every 10s I can activate a power then make 3 light attacks to get back to even on resources and then have maybe 5s to do other things before I need to repeat this same loop. No thank you. Time to find something else to do with my time.

I wonder what the problem with Siphoning Attacks on live is that they want to break. It was fun.

aco5712

everyone is acting like the world is falling apart. This change is not going to effect NB tanks that much. If your a pver, you dont need such intense regen. Your a tank, not a dps. If your a dps, this change is positive in AoE situtations. If you want to make a sap tank for PvP, its simple, adapt.

its not hard to create a NB build that can counteract the new cost/no toggle while still maintaining damage, recovery, resources etc. I did it with a template so stop all this the world is falling stuff....

Elijah_Crow

aco5712 wrote: »

everyone is acting like the world is falling apart. This change is not going to effect NB tanks that much. If your a pver, you dont need such intense regen. Your a tank, not a dps. If your a dps, this change is positive in AoE situtations. If you want to make a sap tank for PvP, its simple, adapt.

its not hard to create a NB build that can counteract the new cost/no toggle while still maintaining damage, recovery, resources etc. I did it with a template so stop all this the world is falling stuff....

I completely disagree with everything you said. I tested my own character and a template at VR16. I don't mind managing resources, except when it becomes so instrumental as to interfere with game play. The fun factor is now gone.

gjmgamesub17_ESO

Honestly the ability in its current form on live is OP.

I am a magicka nightblade, but with siphon and sap essence i become a tank on groups of enemies in vet dungeons.

Being able to cast my aoe damage and heal infinitely while also blocking infinitely isn't balanced.

Taking the stamina recovery off is needed.

aco5712

Elijah_Crow wrote: »

aco5712 wrote: »

everyone is acting like the world is falling apart. This change is not going to effect NB tanks that much. If your a pver, you dont need such intense regen. Your a tank, not a dps. If your a dps, this change is positive in AoE situtations. If you want to make a sap tank for PvP, its simple, adapt.

its not hard to create a NB build that can counteract the new cost/no toggle while still maintaining damage, recovery, resources etc. I did it with a template so stop all this the world is falling stuff....

I completely disagree with everything you said. I tested my own character and a template at VR16. I don't mind managing resources, except when it becomes so instrumental as to interfere with game play. The fun factor is now gone.

but its hardly managing resources. you apply 1 buff every 15 seconds when its fixed... its not hard at all to do that. You dont need to do anything apart from that to manage resources which is why its so powerful atm.

Vegaroth

aco5712 wrote: »

everyone is acting like the world is falling apart. This change is not going to effect NB tanks that much. If your a pver, you dont need such intense regen. Your a tank, not a dps. If your a dps, this change is positive in AoE situtations. If you want to make a sap tank for PvP, its simple, adapt.

its not hard to create a NB build that can counteract the new cost/no toggle while still maintaining damage, recovery, resources etc. I did it with a template so stop all this the world is falling stuff....

Actually this simple change destroys completely my build

Ashtaris

gjmgamesub17_ESO wrote: »

Honestly the ability in its current form on live is OP.

I am a magicka nightblade, but with siphon and sap essence i become a tank on groups of enemies in vet dungeons.

Being able to cast my aoe damage and heal infinitely while also blocking infinitely isn't balanced.

Taking the stamina recovery off is needed.

lol - Well said magicka NB :P

GreenSoup2HoT

kungmoo wrote: »

please... give us the other toggle morph for siphoning strikes.... it was a key ability for nb tanking.... not the healing morph

I love my nb tank and I really don't want to force him into a life of a crafting bot

I was excited as a dps for a siphoning strikes with no damage penalty. Now i have a way to regain hp and stam with my bow light attack's while im charging for Grim Power.

I can make a light attack build with the new essence thief set and have lot's of sustain/hp.

I could even build a DoT dps with this, blood Craze + Posion Injection then use light attack's to gain resource against those tanky player's in pvp.

Throw on that Valkyn Skoria Set and i bet i could proc it easy.
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Please keep the ten second morph. This is awesome for dps build's too.

Rinmaethodain

Give them finger, they will demand whole hand. While some people struggle to just keep what they already have.

aco5712

Vegaroth wrote: »

aco5712 wrote: »

everyone is acting like the world is falling apart. This change is not going to effect NB tanks that much. If your a pver, you dont need such intense regen. Your a tank, not a dps. If your a dps, this change is positive in AoE situtations. If you want to make a sap tank for PvP, its simple, adapt.

its not hard to create a NB build that can counteract the new cost/no toggle while still maintaining damage, recovery, resources etc. I did it with a template so stop all this the world is falling stuff....

Actually this simple change destroys completely my build

You can't press a extra button?

PBpsy

gjmgamesub17_ESO wrote: »

Honestly the ability in its current form on live is OP.

I am a magicka nightblade, but with siphon and sap essence i become a tank on groups of enemies in vet dungeons.

Being able to cast my aoe damage and heal infinitely while also blocking infinitely isn't balanced.

Taking the stamina recovery off is needed.

Funny enough, that was the intended purpose of the skill. Even more funny is that every class could do exactly this from the start and Magicka Templars and Sorcs can do this better then before next patch .