Wth is going on with Bitting Jabs?

TheBull

I think it's fair to say it's hitting much harder than anything else on PTS. It's even ignoring damage reduction abilities like consuming shadows.

Could someone please tell me what's up?
@ZOS_GinaBruno
@ZOS_BrianWheeler

sabresandiego_ESO

Sharpened Mace bug

TheBull

No way that's the only thing. That's been there a long time.

Beesting

Everyone reroll stamplar now, abandon nightblades haha

Cinbri

This is 2nd thread on pts about insane damage for this useless skill. Seems damage bug indeed.

Forcebuster

The thing is many people haven't noticed that biting jabs does less damage on pts then it does on live. So as i logged on pts the other day and my race has been buffed and jewelry enchants became better, I have noticed that the damage I do on pts with 300 more weapon damage on pts is less than the damage I currently do on live and I am not the only who noticed that, I am sure many others will notice that. It is only matter of time when people see the tool tip damage and compare it with live and actual numbers.

TheBull

Remember tool tip dmg should do actual dmg -50%

Forcebuster

TheBull wrote: »

Remember tool tip dmg should do actual dmg -50%

Well what I mentioned about the tool tip was outside of cyrodil

Alcast

TheBull wrote: »

I think it's fair to say it's hitting much harder than anything else on PTS. It's even ignoring damage reduction abilities like consuming shadows.

Could someone please tell me what's up?
@ZOS_GinaBruno
@ZOS_BrianWheeler

atm there is a bug that 5x or more the dmg...

like flying blade hitting 5x harder than it should

Vatter

instead of crying for biting jabs nerf how about crying for a armor penetration nerf. thats the real problem. but then that would effect your NB as well and we can't be having that can we.

timidobserver

The spam thread creation lets me know that there will be a jabs nerf. All whining about Templar results in nerfs. Hopefully they limit it to jabs and don't nerf the magicka morph as well.

TheBull

@vatter nah man I'm not looking for a nerf. I have a temp too. Something is a bit off though. Like the example gave with consuming shadows, jabs goes right through like it ain't even there. I'm kinda thinking damage decreasing effects work the same way as battle spirt.


For the record neither on of my nbs use armor pen though watch this one while I'm at it. Ambush is breaking cloak long after it's cast this needs to be fixed(nerfed) too.

tplink3r1

Just tested my damage on a DK, each of my jabs dealt 1355(non-crit) damage on him.
Do people really think 5420 damage on a channeled melee ability is OP? If people are being hit for 10k+ there must be an exploit going on.

hammayolettuce

I have been hit by multiple players on PTS for 12k+ .. yes i understand people say step to the side.. but that isnt a valid argument that something is going on if people can get their jabs that high

Teargrants

I've been seeing a lot of 10-14k jabs on pts, it's the new Jesus Beam.

umagon

It seems to be ignoring all armor some how. When buffed and using one of my heavy armor sets I can get to 27k armor on both spell and physical damage. Yet I had someone hitting me for 15k and 5k with each hit. With armor that high and the new buff debuff (how ever you want to look at it) on damage in pvp something isn't right even when factoring in the cp points. And I don't think it's one these things that is random, this person did that amount of damage each time I ran into them. I think the funniest part is they named their pts char something like japs for the win.

ToRelax

Everyone reroll Templars again, and 2 weeks after it's Live, this gets fixed...

Alcast

umagon wrote: »

It seems to be ignoring all armor some how. When buffed and using one of my heavy armor sets I can get to 27k armor on both spell and physical damage. Yet I had someone hitting me for 15k and 5k with each hit. With armor that high and the new buff debuff (how ever you want to look at it) on damage in pvp something isn't right even when factoring in the cp points. And I don't think it's one these things that is random, this person did that amount of damage each time I ran into them. I think the funniest part is they named their pts char something like japs for the win.

sharpened+mace ignore most of armor.

and that 15k is bugged, somehow the dmg gets multiplied...

flying blade got same stuff 25k flying blade crits

TheBull

Well the 15k is a total from all jabs. That's about 3.75k per. That would mean those same 3.75k jabs on live would be 7.5k each.... Most likely that 3.75k is the same on pts as it would be on live. Meaning hitting jabs is not being affected by damage reduction.

tplink3r1

TheBull wrote: »

Well the 15k is a total from all jabs. That's about 3.75k per. That would mean those same 3.75k jabs on live would be 7.5k each.... Most likely that 3.75k is the same on pts as it would be on live. Meaning hitting jabs is not being affected by damage reduction.

It is being affected by the 50% reduction, at least for my Jabs.
Those 15k+ damage from jabs are probably related to an exploit.

Ace_SiN

Leave Jabs alone and find whatever exploit/bug someone has come across. If I have 4k+ weapon damage, on the pts, my jabs don't hit anywhere near as hard as some of you are posting. In fact with the current damage nerf I don't feel like 4k weapon damage is worth the sustain sacrifice.

Illumous

Ace_SiN wrote: »

Leave Jabs alone and find whatever exploit/bug someone has come across. If I have 4k+ weapon damage, on the pts, my jabs don't hit anywhere near as hard as some of you are posting.

I agree, I have not noticed my Jab doing anywhere near that much damage on the PTS (I can get near those numbers with Burning Light and Evil Hunter Procs added to the Jabs overall damage, but not from the Jabs itself). There must be some penetration exploit going on somewhere.

Forestd16b14_ESO

Bitting jabs is the new jesus beam.

Raizin

ToRelax wrote: »

Everyone reroll Templars again, and 2 weeks after it's Live, this gets fixed...

till that happends, everyone who has templar shall have bazilion stones and all gears they want

Nonamesbutmineub17_ESO

Illumous wrote: »

Ace_SiN wrote: »

Leave Jabs alone and find whatever exploit/bug someone has come across. If I have 4k+ weapon damage, on the pts, my jabs don't hit anywhere near as hard as some of you are posting.

I agree, I have not noticed my Jab doing anywhere near that much damage on the PTS (I can get near those numbers with Burning Light and Evil Hunter Procs added to the Jabs overall damage, but not from the Jabs itself). There must be some penetration exploit going on somewhere.

I don't think it's an exploit. I made template Templar Vampire and put on full hunding rage and ravaging set and master sword 2h plus warrior mundus stone and added 2 recovery glyphs on each ring and 67 points into the mighty passive and 33 into the piercing passive for champion points. According to the stats I have 2677 weapon damage. With rally it's 313. The tooltip for biting jabs says it's 934 for each hit with each hit. With rally it says 1022.

Some one told me today I hit them for 13k damage with biting jabs. I think they where wearing either light or medium armor because they were a NB gank build. I hope they fix this before live.

Master_Kas

Tested a stamplar on PTS. Didn't do OP damage like people here say.
But I will test it out more ,

NovaShadow

I was hit multiple times by different templars for 14k biting jabs. So some people have found a way to do it.

Alcast

TheBull wrote: »

Well the 15k is a total from all jabs. That's about 3.75k per. That would mean those same 3.75k jabs on live would be 7.5k each.... Most likely that 3.75k is the same on pts as it would be on live. Meaning hitting jabs is not being affected by damage reduction.

3.75k soulds pretty freaking high.

On pts, I got templar character with Hundings+Ravager and jabs hit for about 3k, but you cant really pvp with that bc sustain gone in 3s.

on live with A LOT LESS weap dmg, i deal maximum of 3.8k dmg on an enemy/jab.

I could go try how much my jabs hits on live with ravager setup later, but it will be 4,5k+ i guess.

I have seen a lot more people die to Jabs because they have no stamina to dodgeroll or break free.
not because of the too high dmg. On live currently its a lot easier to avoid jabs bc you have more stamina resource pools, on pts that shiizzle is gone in seconds

NovaShadow wrote: »

I was hit multiple times by different templars for 14k biting jabs. So some people have found a way to do it.

14k is fine, if you have 4x 3,2k dmg then that dmg is fine. Its only bc of the Ravager+Hundings combo...

I have to go grind my sstam sorc now, after I will hop into Cyrodiil and check dmg numbers on Jabs with Rav+Hun on Live

kaithuzar

I haven't had too much of a problem with Biting jabs dmg. The only thing that I detest, is that it's almost impossible to interrupt/can not be interrupted. Once they start on you there is no getting out of it & you can't do anything to combat it.
The closest I can think of is break cc, roll dodge away, but then they gap close & right back into it!

Xsorus

Bloody ability hits incredibly hard

I'm doing around 3k damage with Surprise attack it seems, and getting whooped for a good 7k-8k from biting jabs

Erock25

There is clearly the same bug going on with Biting Jabs as there was with Flying Blade.