Controller Roles? Possible?

21jws10

Is it possible to play a controller on this, I know it's not available on the group finder but with all the CC I think it's possible.
For those who don't know a controller is described as this on another game: "This role focuses on incapacitating enemies and group support including Power regeneration. Controllers have specific debuff abilities that can lower an opponent's defense, toughness, healing or damage output."
I presume this is possible on this game fairly easy? What would be the best class for it? Hard CC, Snares, Debuffs/Buffs, Support. Hmm?

VoidBlue

hmmmm, i know there are skills in one class that does this if you morph it to do so... im thinking Sorc maybe.

but every class has synergy skills and CC. its best just to DPS and use those DPS skills that give boosts.

21jws10

So, what team buffs are there? And debuffs for the enemies.. Plus CC and there should be plenty for this to work, although it would be pretty weak on it's own..? Dependent on survivability of course.

21jws10

Rousing roar is the only one I can think of currently..

VoidBlue

i cant recall them all. but i know there are some that boost everyones regen or boost damage for x amount of time. and even some that does straight out damage to the mob in the synergy radius. there are debuffs that stun, fear, reduce damage, reduce healing to mob/s.


i suggest you go to eso-skills.com and us their skill calculator and just go through all the skills and see whats what and which class would be best for you to be a CC/support hero

21jws10

Weird thing is, most of these are on the werewolf bar.. Perhaps everyone is looking at it wrong? Werewolf isn't for DPS? Would result in them getting killed less if they played control.

21jws10

Ok so the aim is to do the following:

1. Restore group resources
2. Buff Group Damage
3. Debuff Targets (healing/damage/armor)
4. Crowd Control
5. Revives

I assume this is possible on a build? Just trying to figure out the effects for them all now.
Group resources is endurance and Intellect, buff group damage is brutality, healing debuff is defile, damage debuff is maim and armor debuff is fracture. Crowd control, plenty to go around. Am I best off mixing hard and soft CC?
One handed and shield can perform all three debuffs. So that's weapon A sorted. Starting to think a control roll is possible now.

21jws10

Templar covers all of them except for intellect, which is frustrating somewhat. Only thing what does that is apparently absorption field. It's not worth going sorc for that one move. What CC does the Templar have? Werewolf is the only way I can think of to achieve brutality for a group, but it wouldn't be that much of a weakness as I'd probably only use the ult for support.

AlnilamE

Sorc has Encase/Shattering Prison/Restraining Prison. I use it all the time when I'm healing on my sorc to CC mobs. Also rune prison as single target CC

Templar has shards, but mobs stop being stunned if attacked.

NB has Agony, but that's single target.

There's the War Horn ultimate from the Assault line.

DK has Igneous Weapons, which is a buff.

Combat Prayer (resto staff) adds a small damage buff to targets.

In terms of gear, Sanctuary increases healing received for allies within 10m, I think Ebon increases Health or Health Regen, Worm Cult reduces magicka cost and Saviour increases Stamina (going from memory, so I could be off).

And the Master Restoration Staff will restore Stamina as well as Health when you heal someone.

That's all I can think of from memory.

J2JMC

21jws10 wrote: »

Weird thing is, most of these are on the werewolf bar.. Perhaps everyone is looking at it wrong? Werewolf isn't for DPS? Would result in them getting killed less if they played control.

Look up Lefty Lucy.

21jws10

Ok, here's what I've got so far, for templar.
1.Group Endurance/Intellect/Fortitude, Restoring Aura (Unsure what morph to take)
2.Group Brutality, Rousing Roar
3.Defile, Solar Flare/Lethal Arrow/Reverberating Bash
4.Maim, Low Slash
5.Fracture, Power of the Light, Focused Aim
6.Crowd Control, no Idea which ones the templar has or which to use.
This is shaping up nicely. Still not enough skills for a full build though, looks like bow is the best option back bar wise, but there are plenty of templar abilities which can be used from a range to get these effects. What weapon would you have on the back bar? Resto staff looks like it may be helpful, though the magicka stamina mix may make it a struggle. Though I can be based on one and it wont hurt the buff/debuff percentages. However if I go stamina my healing would be down and if I go Magicka my weapon damage contribution will go down, although I really don't want to be too close to the enemy.

Thoughts?

21jws10

@J2JMC Werewolf is a better team player than the DPS in my opinion, I'm familiar with LL's stuff, haven't tried anything yet. Anyone know any useful templar skills I'll need? I probably need a snare and a root still. Absorb Magic has always been helpful against sorcs.

Aett_Thorn

The problem that you're going to find is that this role is much wanted on a team. You need a Healer and a Tank, and that only leaves two spots open on most teams. Taking a Controller means that you only have one DPS, and then things can take forever to kill.

I really wish we could have gotten bigger team sizes, that way more varied roles could be taken (especially if we had the powers for it). Playing City of Heroes had teams of up to 8 (and Leagues bigger than that). You also had most enemies that could be locked down by a controller given time, unlike some of the tougher mobs here where it's a binary yes/no option. It allowed for more varied team roles on a team, which was nice.

21jws10

Thoughts on Bar?
First bar is Sword and Board, Second is Bow

Bar 1 Reverberating Bash, Low Slash, Restoring Aura, Absorb Magic, Binding Javelin
Bar 2 Magnum Shot, Bombard, Dark Flare, Power of the Light, Self Heal (What is Templar's again?)

Thoughts?

21jws10

Not sure on ults, even though werewolf is probably going to be needed.

xoduspaladin

21jws10 wrote: »

Is it possible to play a controller on this, I know it's not available on the group finder but with all the CC I think it's possible.
For those who don't know a controller is described as this on another game: "This role focuses on incapacitating enemies and group support including Power regeneration. Controllers have specific debuff abilities that can lower an opponent's defense, toughness, healing or damage output."
I presume this is possible on this game fairly easy? What would be the best class for it? Hard CC, Snares, Debuffs/Buffs, Support. Hmm?

Ah yeah, I remember this from DCUO. I just figure that was what they called it for that particular game, now I know better. I always loved CC in games, bring a cool mix with whole trinity thing...

21jws10

Yup, thoughts on my theory bars anyone?