console text chat

Gamertaglemieux

kalimar44 wrote: »

I have had 0 problems with voice chat ,and my guild is well over 100+ members. To everyone complaining about dam numbers and other pc eso add-ons dose it really matter?

No, it does not matter. Not. At. All.

Players complaining about the lack of these unnecessary features are the MMO equivalent of the MLG wannabe tryhards you encounter in EVERY first person shooter on the console.

No surprise. Nothing to see here. Move along.

Machiavelli

It has no possible way of comparing to PC. PC has way too many options available to the player base. Addons etc.

Gamertaglemieux

kalimar44 wrote: »

I have had 0 problems with voice chat ,and my guild is well over 100+ members. To everyone complaining about dam numbers and other pc eso add-ons dose it really matter?

Voice chat works perfectly (Xbox NA here).

It is by far more efficient than typing and less confusing, text chat in my opinion is not needed at all. I can complete a sales transaction with a player in a fraction of the time would take to type all the communication out, plus all the humor and fun is not missed as it would be typed out.

I have met and made MANY MORE friends and had MORE FUN with USING VOICE CHAT than ever would have using text.

More and more I read of the "lack of text chat" argument, really starting to believe the ones so vocal for text chat are most likely kids as they are often not taken seriously as players. To a point, I understand their concern. Been at the crafting station in Vulkhel Guard and the infamous punks and bullies just start being rude to them as soon as they hear a kid voice. This is terribly wrong. Who cares if they are kids? They are an ESO player--same as them. As long as they are being mature and wanting to play and contribute, I repeat, who cares?

If anything Zeni's man hours and effort should be spent in removing and banning jerks from the game.

markt84

Gamertaglemieux wrote: »

kalimar44 wrote: »

I have had 0 problems with voice chat ,and my guild is well over 100+ members. To everyone complaining about dam numbers and other pc eso add-ons dose it really matter?

Voice chat works perfectly (Xbox NA here).

It is by far more efficient than typing and less confusing, text chat in my opinion is not needed at all. I can complete a sales transaction with a player in a fraction of the time would take to type all the communication out, plus all the humor and fun is not missed as it would be typed out.

I have met and made MANY MORE friends and had MORE FUN with USING VOICE CHAT than ever would have using text.

More and more I read of the "lack of text chat" argument, really starting to believe the ones so vocal for text chat are most likely kids as they are often not taken seriously as players. To a point, I understand their concern. Been at the crafting station in Vulkhel Guard and the infamous punks and bullies just start being rude to them as soon as they hear a kid voice. This is terribly wrong. Who cares if they are kids? They are an ESO player--same as them. As long as they are being mature and wanting to play and contribute, I repeat, who cares?

If anything Zeni's man hours and effort should be spent in removing and banning jerks from the game.

Agreed. In mid battle I'm not stopping to read, or stopping in mid battle to type to everyone what's going on. I have no idea how people do it, let alone like it. I know if im in a group, all players without headset will get booted. If you can't talk or at the very least listen, I got no use for you

Enteum

theforgottenking1779 wrote: »

I was just wondering eso hasn't been out that long on console yet and people seem to be loosing faith in it since it has some problems like no text chat for example and no xp numbers or damage numbers that show my question is do you think eventually they will have to add all this stuff to the console version also for it to stay afloat for the next year or so on console or do you think that console will survive without these improvements jw

Personally, I hope it does survive. Now this game has gone B2P (not to mention XBLive or whatever), that's how it should have been from the beginning. I have been absent for a long time and only just returned to my VR2 Sorc on PC. My cousin wants to play this, but only has XB1. So when I get mine, I will play both.

I don't even use damage numbers on PC...who really cares? there's a health bar. Are you doing more damage to your enemy than they are to you? Is their health bar decreasing faster than yours? Yes? Then all is good ( for example )

Nevermind this PC vs. Console rubbish that everyone talks about. It's all a good thing. If people are enjoying themselves on whatever format, then it's a good thing. I play both, PC and console.

I'm looking forward to seeing how ESO turns out now.

- Enteum

PS. Having returned recently...I'm having a ton of fun!!

Tholian1

theforgottenking1779 wrote: »

I was just wondering eso hasn't been out that long on console yet and people seem to be loosing faith in it since it has some problems like no text chat for example and no xp numbers or damage numbers that show my question is do you think eventually they will have to add all this stuff to the console version also for it to stay afloat for the next year or so on console or do you think that console will survive without these improvements jw

I think it is the short attention spans that will be a struggle for console ESO in the long run.

bareheiny

Tholian1 wrote: »

theforgottenking1779 wrote: »

I was just wondering eso hasn't been out that long on console yet and people seem to be loosing faith in it since it has some problems like no text chat for example and no xp numbers or damage numbers that show my question is do you think eventually they will have to add all this stuff to the console version also for it to stay afloat for the next year or so on console or do you think that console will survive without these improvements jw

I think it is the short attention spans that will be a struggle for console ESO in the long run.

I played DCUO on the PS for about three years....so console <> short attention span.


I am curious about those who don't see the point in text chat though - have you every played a console MMORPG before, or is this your first? No sarcasm or insult intended. It's an honest question.

Tholian1

bareheiny wrote: »

Tholian1 wrote: »

theforgottenking1779 wrote: »

I was just wondering eso hasn't been out that long on console yet and people seem to be loosing faith in it since it has some problems like no text chat for example and no xp numbers or damage numbers that show my question is do you think eventually they will have to add all this stuff to the console version also for it to stay afloat for the next year or so on console or do you think that console will survive without these improvements jw

I think it is the short attention spans that will be a struggle for console ESO in the long run.

I played DCUO on the PS for about three years....so console <> short attention span.


I am curious about those who don't see the point in text chat though - have you every played a console MMORPG before, or is this your first? No sarcasm or insult intended. It's an honest question.

Yeah the attention span comment is arguable for a select group, but just wait for the next big title to hit the market. We'll see.

Not sure why you think I was arguing against text chat, I wasn't. I actually struggle being social without it.

bareheiny

Tholian1 wrote: »

bareheiny wrote: »

Tholian1 wrote: »

theforgottenking1779 wrote: »

I was just wondering eso hasn't been out that long on console yet and people seem to be loosing faith in it since it has some problems like no text chat for example and no xp numbers or damage numbers that show my question is do you think eventually they will have to add all this stuff to the console version also for it to stay afloat for the next year or so on console or do you think that console will survive without these improvements jw

I think it is the short attention spans that will be a struggle for console ESO in the long run.

I played DCUO on the PS for about three years....so console <> short attention span.


I am curious about those who don't see the point in text chat though - have you every played a console MMORPG before, or is this your first? No sarcasm or insult intended. It's an honest question.

Yeah the attention span comment is arguable for a select group, but just wait for the next big title to hit the market. We'll see.

Not sure why you think I was arguing against text chat, I wasn't. I actually struggle being social without it.

I have to admit that within ESO I have the attention span of a caffeinated squriir.....oooh, cotton!


The question about folk who don't see the point at text chat wasn't aimed at you...I probably should've put that in before I quoted you to prevent confusion.

Steel_Brightblade

I've been surprised at just how well voice chat works in this game and don't miss text chat at all. Not heard any one in my guilds complain about it either. Makes me wonder if the only people complaining are the PC transfers and well if PC version is so perfect why did you transfer?

With the ways its going I see this game laying a long time on console unless they make these changes, force people into awkward text chat or numbers obsessed groups, can see that pushing people away.

Vulsahdaal

Steel_Brightblade wrote: »

I've been surprised at just how well voice chat works in this game and don't miss text chat at all. Not heard any one in my guilds complain about it either. Makes me wonder if the only people complaining are the PC transfers and well if PC version is so perfect why did you transfer?

Its not a matter of being perfect, PC version is far from it.. Its just a matter sooo many standard game features from PC are either missing from the console version, or is just not clear in instructing people how its done. If its working well for you, and you dont miss text chat at all, then maybe you can explain to me (who admittedly only console voice chat experience is with CoD type games, and never had a console mmorpg game before) how you are doing these things in the game?

1) How to find a guild to join? Where does one go to listen to all the guild recruiters pitching their guilds, so you can talk to them about joining? Im used to seeing all their advertising in text chat.. Now Im sure it would be quicker to do this by voice, but I cant find any recruiters? And if I do find them, how to send a whisper or tell so I can speak to them?

2) How do you address zone in order to either sell, or see if someone is willing to sell, an item?

3) How do you get into more than one voice channel at the same time? I mean if I was to figure out how to have a private voice chat with a guild recruiter, or someone selling something, how can I still talk to him while keeping up with what is being said in group chat as well?

And one last question, this is the one that made me finally give up on the game-

4) If youre the only one at a dolmen, world boss, etc how do you call to zone for help if there is no one close by to you?

Yes it may be that I am just to used to having a text chat in a mmorpg game, but in general I have no problems with trying new methods of doing things so I tried to give the console version a chance.
In the end though, I found no new methods to try, instead these things were just not possible at all. Or at least not very clear how to use. Either way, I have other more fun things I can be doing rather than spending half my play time sitting alone at a dolmen watching necromancers preform same moves over and over again..If someone can explain how these things are done with voice chat, or if they decide to add a way we can do these things in the game (at this point I dont care if its text, voice or even smoke signals) I will be glad to come back and try again.

OzJohnD

Better is a matter of perspective.

traigusb14_ESO2

Vulsahdaal wrote: »

Steel_Brightblade wrote: »

I've been surprised at just how well voice chat works in this game and don't miss text chat at all. Not heard any one in my guilds complain about it either. Makes me wonder if the only people complaining are the PC transfers and well if PC version is so perfect why did you transfer?

Its not a matter of being perfect, PC version is far from it.. Its just a matter sooo many standard game features from PC are either missing from the console version, or is just not clear in instructing people how its done. If its working well for you, and you dont miss text chat at all, then maybe you can explain to me (who admittedly only console voice chat experience is with CoD type games, and never had a console mmorpg game before) how you are doing these things in the game?

1) How to find a guild to join? Where does one go to listen to all the guild recruiters pitching their guilds, so you can talk to them about joining? Im used to seeing all their advertising in text chat.. Now Im sure it would be quicker to do this by voice, but I cant find any recruiters? And if I do find them, how to send a whisper or tell so I can speak to them?

2) How do you address zone in order to either sell, or see if someone is willing to sell, an item?

3) How do you get into more than one voice channel at the same time? I mean if I was to figure out how to have a private voice chat with a guild recruiter, or someone selling something, how can I still talk to him while keeping up with what is being said in group chat as well?

And one last question, this is the one that made me finally give up on the game-

4) If youre the only one at a dolmen, world boss, etc how do you call to zone for help if there is no one close by to you?

Yes it may be that I am just to used to having a text chat in a mmorpg game, but in general I have no problems with trying new methods of doing things so I tried to give the console version a chance.
In the end though, I found no new methods to try, instead these things were just not possible at all. Or at least not very clear how to use. Either way, I have other more fun things I can be doing rather than spending half my play time sitting alone at a dolmen watching necromancers preform same moves over and over again..If someone can explain how these things are done with voice chat, or if they decide to add a way we can do these things in the game (at this point I dont care if its text, voice or even smoke signals) I will be glad to come back and try again.

1.) There are places people hang out to craft (see 2). People recruit for guilds, especially trade guilds in those areas. Undaunted Enclave is good for guilds that do dungeons.

2.) There are places that people are gravitating to get stuff crafted. Xbox EP, Riften is pretty popular because of bites. Also a decent number of people in Belkarth looking for crafts and VR guilds. Places will vary based on Console, server and alliance.

3.) On Xbox you can listen to 2 channels (shows headphones on vice section of social menu). Currently party chat never seems to work as one of them (though I have rarely been able to hear local while in a party chat... not sure which is a bug, but party chat is not listed in social...). You select which 2 to listen to, then select 1 to talk in (mic symbol) you can move them around. I keep mine in Guild 1 and Local (mic in Guild )unless I am grouping, then I use Guild 1 and Group (mic in group) you can tell which channel is speaking on Xbox by name color of speaker icon on bottom right of screen. Guild is green, Group is blue.

4.) Never had to call zonewide. Usually someone will eventually show up... I'm VR9 and I get help at dolmens and bosses pretty quickly if I need it or not and I'm pretty far above the current Xbox average level curve. If that is not fast enough, you can go to nearest Wayshrine and/or town and try to get someone to help in local.

I have been asked to help out a few guildies late at night through guild chat though. Usually someone will show up by the time I get there (especially for dolmens because people will see them active).


Not perfect, but works pretty well.

AaronLannister

markt84 wrote: »

Gamertaglemieux wrote: »

kalimar44 wrote: »

I have had 0 problems with voice chat ,and my guild is well over 100+ members. To everyone complaining about dam numbers and other pc eso add-ons dose it really matter?

Voice chat works perfectly (Xbox NA here).

It is by far more efficient than typing and less confusing, text chat in my opinion is not needed at all. I can complete a sales transaction with a player in a fraction of the time would take to type all the communication out, plus all the humor and fun is not missed as it would be typed out.

I have met and made MANY MORE friends and had MORE FUN with USING VOICE CHAT than ever would have using text.

More and more I read of the "lack of text chat" argument, really starting to believe the ones so vocal for text chat are most likely kids as they are often not taken seriously as players. To a point, I understand their concern. Been at the crafting station in Vulkhel Guard and the infamous punks and bullies just start being rude to them as soon as they hear a kid voice. This is terribly wrong. Who cares if they are kids? They are an ESO player--same as them. As long as they are being mature and wanting to play and contribute, I repeat, who cares?

If anything Zeni's man hours and effort should be spent in removing and banning jerks from the game.

Agreed. In mid battle I'm not stopping to read, or stopping in mid battle to type to everyone what's going on. I have no idea how people do it, let alone like it. I know if im in a group, all players without headset will get booted. If you can't talk or at the very least listen, I got no use for you

wow, just wow... so much IGNORANCE Text Chat isn't for MID game battles... It's to easily communicate to others outside of battles or in the middle. That's why Both is the best, Keyboard However still works perfectly only if they have a Macro based system which many games which were KB only did.

AaronLannister

Enteum wrote: »

I don't even use damage numbers on PC...who really cares? there's a health bar. Are you doing more damage to your enemy than they are to you? Is their health bar decreasing faster than yours? Yes? Then all is good ( for example )

No it really isn't, not if your serious about actually being the best in a competitive and co-op game

Nevermind this PC vs. Console rubbish that everyone talks about. It's all a good thing. If people are enjoying themselves on whatever format, then it's a good thing. I play both, PC and console.

In ESO's case it isn't, No Text Chat is a huge hamper in the Social Aspects MMO's are known for.

Darkonflare15

TBH, in my experiences with playing on both my xbox and pc. I been playing the game fluidly on my xbox than my pc. Every time I get crash or cannot get on the game on pc, I get no help from ZOS. When I get a cannot get on my game on xbox Zos takes the game off for maintenance and then everything is peachy.

Vulsahdaal

traigusb14_ESO2 wrote: »

Vulsahdaal wrote: »

Steel_Brightblade wrote: »

I've been surprised at just how well voice chat works in this game and don't miss text chat at all. Not heard any one in my guilds complain about it either. Makes me wonder if the only people complaining are the PC transfers and well if PC version is so perfect why did you transfer?

Its not a matter of being perfect, PC version is far from it.. Its just a matter sooo many standard game features from PC are either missing from the console version, or is just not clear in instructing people how its done. If its working well for you, and you dont miss text chat at all, then maybe you can explain to me (who admittedly only console voice chat experience is with CoD type games, and never had a console mmorpg game before) how you are doing these things in the game?

1) How to find a guild to join? Where does one go to listen to all the guild recruiters pitching their guilds, so you can talk to them about joining? Im used to seeing all their advertising in text chat.. Now Im sure it would be quicker to do this by voice, but I cant find any recruiters? And if I do find them, how to send a whisper or tell so I can speak to them?

2) How do you address zone in order to either sell, or see if someone is willing to sell, an item?

3) How do you get into more than one voice channel at the same time? I mean if I was to figure out how to have a private voice chat with a guild recruiter, or someone selling something, how can I still talk to him while keeping up with what is being said in group chat as well?

And one last question, this is the one that made me finally give up on the game-

4) If youre the only one at a dolmen, world boss, etc how do you call to zone for help if there is no one close by to you?

Yes it may be that I am just to used to having a text chat in a mmorpg game, but in general I have no problems with trying new methods of doing things so I tried to give the console version a chance.
In the end though, I found no new methods to try, instead these things were just not possible at all. Or at least not very clear how to use. Either way, I have other more fun things I can be doing rather than spending half my play time sitting alone at a dolmen watching necromancers preform same moves over and over again..If someone can explain how these things are done with voice chat, or if they decide to add a way we can do these things in the game (at this point I dont care if its text, voice or even smoke signals) I will be glad to come back and try again.

1.) There are places people hang out to craft (see 2). People recruit for guilds, especially trade guilds in those areas. Undaunted Enclave is good for guilds that do dungeons.

2.) There are places that people are gravitating to get stuff crafted. Xbox EP, Riften is pretty popular because of bites. Also a decent number of people in Belkarth looking for crafts and VR guilds. Places will vary based on Console, server and alliance.

3.) On Xbox you can listen to 2 channels (shows headphones on vice section of social menu). Currently party chat never seems to work as one of them (though I have rarely been able to hear local while in a party chat... not sure which is a bug, but party chat is not listed in social...). You select which 2 to listen to, then select 1 to talk in (mic symbol) you can move them around. I keep mine in Guild 1 and Local (mic in Guild )unless I am grouping, then I use Guild 1 and Group (mic in group) you can tell which channel is speaking on Xbox by name color of speaker icon on bottom right of screen. Guild is green, Group is blue.

4.) Never had to call zonewide. Usually someone will eventually show up... I'm VR9 and I get help at dolmens and bosses pretty quickly if I need it or not and I'm pretty far above the current Xbox average level curve. If that is not fast enough, you can go to nearest Wayshrine and/or town and try to get someone to help in local.

I have been asked to help out a few guildies late at night through guild chat though. Usually someone will show up by the time I get there (especially for dolmens because people will see them active).


Not perfect, but works pretty well.

Thanks for the suggestions, on 1 and 2 you mention Riften and Belkarth. This could be the issue for me, why I cant find them. Im not high enough level yet to get to these places. Low level craft areas are usually nothing but nonsense talk, no recruiters and nothing for sale, except for occasionally someone trying to sell a bite. Might be a good market if any recruiters/sellers are reading this..
#3 was actually very useful, I will check that out again. I have no problem with having to switch over to speak, (to me is no different from carrying on multiple conversations by typing /zone, /guild 1 etc) the main issue is I want to be able to hear multiple channels, I wasnt able to sort out how to do that..
# 4 Unfortunately its happened to me a lot..I thought about leaving the area to try to find someone, but figured by the time I would find people and came back, others would have come along and killed it.
The common issue here, is I believe there needs to be a way to communicate outside your immediate area. Doesnt have to be text, but at least some way to do it. Otherwise I dont see this game keeping a lot of players, at least not those who are into the whole mmorpg thing.. Its still a very good game for those who are into single player, co-op or small party type games, but not sure if there are enough of them currently in game to sustain it. Many of my FPS games friends I cant even get to try it because of the way the game is advertised.
But anyway, thanks again for the suggestions

NewBlacksmurf

BrassRazoo wrote: »

It's already better than PC.

Agreed

AaronLannister

Vulsahdaal wrote: »

Steel_Brightblade wrote: »

I've been surprised at just how well voice chat works in this game and don't miss text chat at all. Not heard any one in my guilds complain about it either. Makes me wonder if the only people complaining are the PC transfers and well if PC version is so perfect why did you transfer?

Its not a matter of being perfect, PC version is far from it.. Its just a matter sooo many standard game features from PC are either missing from the console version, or is just not clear in instructing people how its done. If its working well for you, and you dont miss text chat at all, then maybe you can explain to me (who admittedly only console voice chat experience is with CoD type games, and never had a console mmorpg game before) how you are doing these things in the game?

1) How to find a guild to join? Where does one go to listen to all the guild recruiters pitching their guilds, so you can talk to them about joining? Im used to seeing all their advertising in text chat.. Now Im sure it would be quicker to do this by voice, but I cant find any recruiters? And if I do find them, how to send a whisper or tell so I can speak to them?

2) How do you address zone in order to either sell, or see if someone is willing to sell, an item?

3) How do you get into more than one voice channel at the same time? I mean if I was to figure out how to have a private voice chat with a guild recruiter, or someone selling something, how can I still talk to him while keeping up with what is being said in group chat as well?

And one last question, this is the one that made me finally give up on the game-

4) If youre the only one at a dolmen, world boss, etc how do you call to zone for help if there is no one close by to you?

Yes it may be that I am just to used to having a text chat in a mmorpg game, but in general I have no problems with trying new methods of doing things so I tried to give the console version a chance.
In the end though, I found no new methods to try, instead these things were just not possible at all. Or at least not very clear how to use. Either way, I have other more fun things I can be doing rather than spending half my play time sitting alone at a dolmen watching necromancers preform same moves over and over again..If someone can explain how these things are done with voice chat, or if they decide to add a way we can do these things in the game (at this point I dont care if its text, voice or even smoke signals) I will be glad to come back and try again.

You know what would work better? Text Chat.

AaronLannister

Gamertaglemieux wrote: »

kalimar44 wrote: »

I have had 0 problems with voice chat ,and my guild is well over 100+ members. To everyone complaining about dam numbers and other pc eso add-ons dose it really matter?

Voice chat works perfectly (Xbox NA here).

It is by far more efficient than typing and less confusing, text chat in my opinion is not needed at all. I can complete a sales transaction with a player in a fraction of the time would take to type all the communication out, plus all the humor and fun is not missed as it would be typed out.

I have met and made MANY MORE friends and had MORE FUN with USING VOICE CHAT than ever would have using text.

More and more I read of the "lack of text chat" argument, really starting to believe the ones so vocal for text chat are most likely kids as they are often not taken seriously as players. To a point, I understand their concern. Been at the crafting station in Vulkhel Guard and the infamous punks and bullies just start being rude to them as soon as they hear a kid voice. This is terribly wrong. Who cares if they are kids? They are an ESO player--same as them. As long as they are being mature and wanting to play and contribute, I repeat, who cares?

If anything Zeni's man hours and effort should be spent in removing and banning jerks from the game.

It really doesn't for a majority of reasons. It hinders Bigger Groups.

Sorry but the people who want Text Chat are people who are more serious about ROLE PLAYING, it is an MMO after all.
People who want Text Chat are also more about Looking FOR random groups much much easier then just going up to peoples faces and asking them.

It's also EASIER to discern whose talking to who with Text Chat, both are needed. Text Chatting is needed for a more social aspect of MMO's. This is why the Console version is MADE fun of Constantly by people. ESO console is so lonely.

With Text Chatting it's clearly much easier to find buyers and sellers, so the whole argument of Keyboards being less efficient is entirely moot and in all honestly quite ignorant.

VoidBlue

Holy cowzow! They closed the console text chat discussion thread!

Someone needs to make a new 2.0 console text chat discussion thread now.

Will it be you?

bareheiny

VoidBlue wrote: »

Holy cowzow! They closed the console text chat discussion thread!

Honestly, I'm surprised it didn't happen sooner....we were well into a downward spiral of petty insults and derogatory name-calling

VoidBlue

bareheiny wrote: »

VoidBlue wrote: »

Holy cowzow! They closed the console text chat discussion thread!

Honestly, I'm surprised it didn't happen sooner....we were well into a downward spiral of petty insults and derogatory name-calling

Text chat lets have it on console.


They could of waited until it was 100 pages now it's all weird and not rounded in amount

theforgottenking1779

-_-

theforgottenking1779

bareheiny wrote: »

VoidBlue wrote: »

Holy cowzow! They closed the console text chat discussion thread!

Honestly, I'm surprised it didn't happen sooner....we were well into a downward spiral of petty insults and derogatory name-calling

They just think the problem is going to go away but it won't

BigMac_Smiley

Hey guys there is another thread about console text chat and it has a poll, so head over there and cast your vote

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/199830/console-should-text-chat-be-implemented-with-the-ic-patch/p1

SkepticalGlenn

Xbox one I know you can plug in a usb keyboard so It seems like you should be able to text chat, they should patch it in the game. I'm assuming if ps4 has a usb input then you could do it for them as well. I just feel ridiculous saying " anyone want to do a dungeon" 40 times. lol

traigusb14_ESO2

Vulsahdaal wrote: »

traigusb14_ESO2 wrote: »

Vulsahdaal wrote: »

Steel_Brightblade wrote: »

I've been surprised at just how well voice chat works in this game and don't miss text chat at all. Not heard any one in my guilds complain about it either. Makes me wonder if the only people complaining are the PC transfers and well if PC version is so perfect why did you transfer?

Its not a matter of being perfect, PC version is far from it.. Its just a matter sooo many standard game features from PC are either missing from the console version, or is just not clear in instructing people how its done. If its working well for you, and you dont miss text chat at all, then maybe you can explain to me (who admittedly only console voice chat experience is with CoD type games, and never had a console mmorpg game before) how you are doing these things in the game?

1) How to find a guild to join? Where does one go to listen to all the guild recruiters pitching their guilds, so you can talk to them about joining? Im used to seeing all their advertising in text chat.. Now Im sure it would be quicker to do this by voice, but I cant find any recruiters? And if I do find them, how to send a whisper or tell so I can speak to them?

2) How do you address zone in order to either sell, or see if someone is willing to sell, an item?

3) How do you get into more than one voice channel at the same time? I mean if I was to figure out how to have a private voice chat with a guild recruiter, or someone selling something, how can I still talk to him while keeping up with what is being said in group chat as well?

And one last question, this is the one that made me finally give up on the game-

4) If youre the only one at a dolmen, world boss, etc how do you call to zone for help if there is no one close by to you?

Yes it may be that I am just to used to having a text chat in a mmorpg game, but in general I have no problems with trying new methods of doing things so I tried to give the console version a chance.
In the end though, I found no new methods to try, instead these things were just not possible at all. Or at least not very clear how to use. Either way, I have other more fun things I can be doing rather than spending half my play time sitting alone at a dolmen watching necromancers preform same moves over and over again..If someone can explain how these things are done with voice chat, or if they decide to add a way we can do these things in the game (at this point I dont care if its text, voice or even smoke signals) I will be glad to come back and try again.

1.) There are places people hang out to craft (see 2). People recruit for guilds, especially trade guilds in those areas. Undaunted Enclave is good for guilds that do dungeons.

2.) There are places that people are gravitating to get stuff crafted. Xbox EP, Riften is pretty popular because of bites. Also a decent number of people in Belkarth looking for crafts and VR guilds. Places will vary based on Console, server and alliance.

3.) On Xbox you can listen to 2 channels (shows headphones on vice section of social menu). Currently party chat never seems to work as one of them (though I have rarely been able to hear local while in a party chat... not sure which is a bug, but party chat is not listed in social...). You select which 2 to listen to, then select 1 to talk in (mic symbol) you can move them around. I keep mine in Guild 1 and Local (mic in Guild )unless I am grouping, then I use Guild 1 and Group (mic in group) you can tell which channel is speaking on Xbox by name color of speaker icon on bottom right of screen. Guild is green, Group is blue.

4.) Never had to call zonewide. Usually someone will eventually show up... I'm VR9 and I get help at dolmens and bosses pretty quickly if I need it or not and I'm pretty far above the current Xbox average level curve. If that is not fast enough, you can go to nearest Wayshrine and/or town and try to get someone to help in local.

I have been asked to help out a few guildies late at night through guild chat though. Usually someone will show up by the time I get there (especially for dolmens because people will see them active).


Not perfect, but works pretty well.

Thanks for the suggestions, on 1 and 2 you mention Riften and Belkarth. This could be the issue for me, why I cant find them. Im not high enough level yet to get to these places. Low level craft areas are usually nothing but nonsense talk, no recruiters and nothing for sale, except for occasionally someone trying to sell a bite. Might be a good market if any recruiters/sellers are reading this..
#3 was actually very useful, I will check that out again. I have no problem with having to switch over to speak, (to me is no different from carrying on multiple conversations by typing /zone, /guild 1 etc) the main issue is I want to be able to hear multiple channels, I wasnt able to sort out how to do that..
# 4 Unfortunately its happened to me a lot..I thought about leaving the area to try to find someone, but figured by the time I would find people and came back, others would have come along and killed it.
The common issue here, is I believe there needs to be a way to communicate outside your immediate area. Doesnt have to be text, but at least some way to do it. Otherwise I dont see this game keeping a lot of players, at least not those who are into the whole mmorpg thing.. Its still a very good game for those who are into single player, co-op or small party type games, but not sure if there are enough of them currently in game to sustain it. Many of my FPS games friends I cant even get to try it because of the way the game is advertised.
But anyway, thanks again for the suggestions

Ask around your starter city for someone to help you port to another higher zone city. If you already have a guild or friends playing in your alliance you can click on a name in guild /friend list and teleport to player.. it will briong you to closest wayshrine to them.

If you don't have a guild or friends online, then ask around and you can usually get someone to group with you and then go to Riften for example. Then using the group menu click on them and pick travel to player.. same as above. You can't travel to veteran 1-10 zones like this until you unlock them, but you can get to any of your alliance's 1-50 zones this way. You can also walk to other maps by road, but it isn't always safe and can take a while.

SkepticalGlenn

Vulsahdaal wrote: »

Steel_Brightblade wrote: »

I've been surprised at just how well voice chat works in this game and don't miss text chat at all. Not heard any one in my guilds complain about it either. Makes me wonder if the only people complaining are the PC transfers and well if PC version is so perfect why did you transfer?

Its not a matter of being perfect, PC version is far from it.. Its just a matter sooo many standard game features from PC are either missing from the console version, or is just not clear in instructing people how its done. If its working well for you, and you dont miss text chat at all, then maybe you can explain to me (who admittedly only console voice chat experience is with CoD type games, and never had a console mmorpg game before) how you are doing these things in the game?

1) How to find a guild to join? Where does one go to listen to all the guild recruiters pitching their guilds, so you can talk to them about joining? Im used to seeing all their advertising in text chat.. Now Im sure it would be quicker to do this by voice, but I cant find any recruiters? And if I do find them, how to send a whisper or tell so I can speak to them?

2) How do you address zone in order to either sell, or see if someone is willing to sell, an item?

3) How do you get into more than one voice channel at the same time? I mean if I was to figure out how to have a private voice chat with a guild recruiter, or someone selling something, how can I still talk to him while keeping up with what is being said in group chat as well?

And one last question, this is the one that made me finally give up on the game-

4) If youre the only one at a dolmen, world boss, etc how do you call to zone for help if there is no one close by to you?

Yes it may be that I am just to used to having a text chat in a mmorpg game, but in general I have no problems with trying new methods of doing things so I tried to give the console version a chance.
In the end though, I found no new methods to try, instead these things were just not possible at all. Or at least not very clear how to use. Either way, I have other more fun things I can be doing rather than spending half my play time sitting alone at a dolmen watching necromancers preform same moves over and over again..If someone can explain how these things are done with voice chat, or if they decide to add a way we can do these things in the game (at this point I dont care if its text, voice or even smoke signals) I will be glad to come back and try again.

I can see a lot of your points, they're were times when I was at a world boss having difficulties, or where i'd try and sell something to the whole zone but could only talk to the 9 people at the elden root wayshrine. But I feel like there are times where voice chat is as good if not better than text, and vise versa. When i'm in pvp and I see 25 people running at my group of 8, it's a lot quicker for me to yell at everyone to retreat then to type it. Strategizing is a lot easier too. I would have no problem if text chat was brought it BUT ONLY IF WE COULD HAVE TEXT AND VOICE CHAT. I don't want either or.

Laranoye

bareheiny wrote: »

VoidBlue wrote: »

Holy cowzow! They closed the console text chat discussion thread!

Honestly, I'm surprised it didn't happen sooner....we were well into a downward spiral of petty insults and derogatory name-calling

No it wasn't, It was certain people trying to explain to other particular people, who wouldn't listen.
Those people hijacked the thread and made it a battle.
Because for some reason they are really really against text chat, As if text chat was some evil monster that will eat their children...