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Will the PC "Controller/Console UI" remove text chat (like the true console versions)?

Zazaaji
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If so then...... well, at least it'd be truly like console...... which is a bad thing in this case.
If it doesn't remove text chat, then why is there still no address to the 74+ page thread on adding text chat to consoles? Would like an answer to that, but discussing that might get this thread closed by a ZoS employee that thinks it's all about console text chat, which it's not.
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Edited by Zazaaji on July 25, 2015 12:34AM
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  • Thymos
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    Should probably put this question in the Q&A thread for next friday.
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  • Zazaaji
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    Thymos wrote: »
    Should probably put this question in the Q&A thread for next friday.
    Did, but you know how those go. They'll probably conveniently not reply to it and only reply to people asking questions that have been answered dozens of times already.

    Wanted to make a new thread in hopes to at the very least get other players aware of this absurdly terrible possibility.
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    Edited by Zazaaji on July 25, 2015 12:32AM
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  • Ourorboros
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    They said nothing about adding voice chat to PC. Without that, they would have to leave text alone.
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  • Zazaaji
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    Ourorboros wrote: »
    They said nothing about adding voice chat to PC. Without that, they would have to leave text alone.
    True, but they might expect people to move the mouse and enter mouse/keyboard mode again just to see the text chat. Honestly given how much they are messing up other things, it would not shock me.

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  • NewBlacksmurf
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    Good question but the only things I can think of are
    1. The PC controller UI has the text chat box that was a part of development that ended up scrapped for console.
    2. Add-ins will pop up the text box if its not natively supported.

    If there was no text chat box for PC at all I'd think they wouldn't said so specifically
    Edited by NewBlacksmurf on July 25, 2015 2:31AM
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  • Zazaaji
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    Good question but the only things I can think of are
    1. The PC controller UI has the text chat box that was a part of development that ended up scrapped for console.
    2. Add-ins will pop up the text box if its not natively supported.

    If there was no text chat box for PC at all I'd think they wouldn't said so specifically

    Actually you bring up another good point. Will ZoS even let us use addons to mess with the Console UI on PC? It's not guaranteed. They might just say something like "If you want addons, don't use the console ui".
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  • Zazaaji
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    Fell to middle of page 2, really concerned about this and would appreciate an official answer.
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  • J2JMC
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    Zazaaji wrote: »
    Fell to middle of page 2, really concerned about this and would appreciate an official answer.

    Honestly I think it will. IF it doesn't and we start seeing videos of the console ui with text chat working fine some console people are going to be pissed lol.
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    Here is my concerned... AUTOMATIC switching UI based upon what you have plugged in. Well I, for one, like how I am using my controller with the PC and want to continue this method. I shouldn't be FORCED to use the new UI simply because I want to use a controller. I like having my keyboard and mouse handy and using my other devices such as Logitech G13 with it. So I am HOPING FOR HEAVEN'S SAKE that they put an OPTION in the menu to switch OFF the 'automatic' UI switching. Not all of us PC players using controllers want a native controller UI sans keyboard/mouse access.
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  • Mirra_Halfelven
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    J2JMC wrote: »
    Zazaaji wrote: »
    Fell to middle of page 2, really concerned about this and would appreciate an official answer.

    Honestly I think it will. IF it doesn't and we start seeing videos of the console ui with text chat working fine some console people are going to be pissed lol.

    We already are pissed

    I honesty feel that if ZOS is giving the PC version controler support & voice chat that they should remove text chat from the PC version too.

    After you PC players see what a total mess it is without text chat then maybe something will be done about the lack of text chat on the console version.

    Oh & I almost forgot no push to talk on the PC version either like on the consoles ... see how you ya guys like all those open mics >:)
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    J2JMC wrote: »
    We already are pissed

    I honesty feel that if ZOS is giving the PC version controler support & voice chat that they should remove text chat from the PC version too.

    After you PC players see what a total mess it is without text chat then maybe something will be done about the lack of text chat on the console version.

    Oh & I almost forgot no push to talk on the PC version either like on the consoles ... see how you ya guys like all those open mics >:)

    Wow, really? You know a lot of us PC players are very sympathetic to your communication plight, fully behind you guys getting text chat and understand how crippling it is.
    A post like this tho, makes me start wondering...
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  • Anzriel
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    J2JMC wrote: »
    Zazaaji wrote: »
    Fell to middle of page 2, really concerned about this and would appreciate an official answer.

    Honestly I think it will. IF it doesn't and we start seeing videos of the console ui with text chat working fine some console people are going to be pissed lol.

    We already are pissed

    I honesty feel that if ZOS is giving the PC version controler support & voice chat that they should remove text chat from the PC version too.

    After you PC players see what a total mess it is without text chat then maybe something will be done about the lack of text chat on the console version.

    Oh & I almost forgot no push to talk on the PC version either like on the consoles ... see how you ya guys like all those open mics >:)

    Please, they haven't been listening to us much on the PC side either. LOL I probably just wouldn't use it if it got rid of text chat, which would be sad, I'd like to give the game a shot with a controller, we'll see how things pan out in time. By 'in time' I mean whenever ZoS actually feels like it which could be, you know, tomorrow or sometime in 2037.
  • Ace_of_Destiny
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    J2JMC wrote: »
    Zazaaji wrote: »
    Fell to middle of page 2, really concerned about this and would appreciate an official answer.

    Honestly I think it will. IF it doesn't and we start seeing videos of the console ui with text chat working fine some console people are going to be pissed lol.

    We already are pissed

    I honesty feel that if ZOS is giving the PC version controler support & voice chat that they should remove text chat from the PC version too.

    After you PC players see what a total mess it is without text chat then maybe something will be done about the lack of text chat on the console version.

    Oh & I almost forgot no push to talk on the PC version either like on the consoles ... see how you ya guys like all those open mics >:)

    I had to give you an "awesome" for that.

    Even though I really hope they DO NOT screw over the PC Players that way.

    However, it would be nice to see some of the "PC Players" that are "trolling" the console textchat thread with "if you want text go to pc" posts get a taste of what they are talking about, and why console players are so up in arms about it.


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  • Lenikus
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    they said " you touch the controller, it switches to the console's ui, you touch the mouse, it goes back to PC"
    the way he said it, and how it was being used in development, I would assume it does at least hide/minimize the text chat window. if you touch the keyboard to type, it'll probably count the same as the mouse.


    Can't we just accept that consoles will never have a text chat ?
    and PC version has enough voice chats , either (TeamSpeak or even Steam chat) already ?
    Does the PC version really need an open mic chat ?
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    Lenikus wrote: »
    they said " you touch the controller, it switches to the console's ui, you touch the mouse, it goes back to PC"

    I truly hope it works that seamlessly and also that they implement a means of controller customization so that WE, the players, can decide what our controller buttons do; I would think they would, considering the numerous brands of controllers out there- it isn't like they are designing it JUST for XBox or PS controllers like they had to with the consoles.
    Edited by ADarklore on July 25, 2015 1:57PM
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  • J2JMC
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    ADarklore wrote: »
    Lenikus wrote: »
    they said " you touch the controller, it switches to the console's ui, you touch the mouse, it goes back to PC"

    I truly hope it works that seamlessly and also that they implement a means of controller customization so that WE, the players, can decide what our controller buttons do; I would think they would, considering the numerous brands of controllers out there- it isn't like they are designing it JUST for XBox or PS controllers like they had to with the consoles.

    Once again, if they add extra features to the console ui that does not exist on the original people are going to be pissed. I'd actually QQ until I got banned tbh. I don't care about text chat, but who is the idiot that thought not allowing weapon swap while moving would be beneficial?

    Fact is, the quick press d pad buttons are all entirely useless. You can tell they barely thought about the controller buttons because they believed that being able to switch between quests was more deserving of a button than push to talk. They also thought the ability to open the map in while moving was more important than the ability to weapon swap while moving. ***?

    Edit: Original post only had ps4 controller in mind. Just remembered that the map button on xbox one is also inconvenient to open while moving. So instead, just let people customize their buttons. This, adding text chat and more ui options(mini-map, damage numbers, buff timers etc...) would easily clean up the general discussion forums.
    Edited by J2JMC on July 25, 2015 6:36PM
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  • Samadhi
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    Text chat will not be removed because not everyone on PC is ever going to swap to using controllers.

    Text chat may be unusable without swapping back over to keyboard and mouse temporarily though.

    No customizable buttons no sale though -- ZOS has to make their system outperform Xpadder or there would be no real benefit to adding it to PC.
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