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So I get the impression that some people are against stuff like this and some people are ok with it. I see people using this type of stuff for PvP all the time and best I can understand, its all about how you INTERPRET the TOS. SO what is Zos Official Interpretation of stuff like this?
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✭✭✭✭✭ZOS_MollyH wrote: »Hello <snip> !
To clarify this a bit, using a third party program - in this case it would be your keyboard's profile software - to perform any game function is a violation of the ESOTU terms of service.
The phrase "change the game play experience" includes having third party software macros that automatically perform emotes. The game play experience in this case would be that it is designed to have you - the player - performing these actions manually, and by using a macro you are changing the game play experience.
Using macros, and using unapproved third party applications, programs, scripts or any other game modifying mechanic is a violation of the Terms of Service, and as such continuing to do so would put you at risk for having your account actioned.
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/1826830/#Comment_1826830
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/1827438/#Comment_1827438ZOS_MollyH wrote: »Hi <snip> !
The use of gaming keyboards and mice are not prohibited, but the use of third-party software or other means of creating macros to automate in-game functions is a violation. I apologize for the confusion!
Just to clarify further, part of the Terms of Service document includes an agreement to follow other Supplemental Terms pertaining to Your Service and/or Game, such as a Code of Conduct, provide guidance on behavior that ZeniMax deems to be inappropriate and specify restrictions on Your Account, Your use of the Game, or Your participation in the Services.
There is a paragraph in the Terms of Service agreement that is as follows:
You agree not to use any hardware or software or any other method of support that is not authorized by ZeniMax or that may in any way influence or advantage Your playing abilities, or influence or advantage Your use of the Services. Third party tools, the use of ‘bots’, “speed hacks”, “deep-link”, “page-scrape”, “robot”, “spider”, algorithm or other programs that copy or monitor any part of the Services (including, but not limited to, the Game(s) and/or forums), software that transmits, manipulates, or distributes (including, but are limited to, “mirroring”) the data stream or any aspect of the Services to another computer, server websites or other publication or distribution media, or software that permits You to use Services without human input are examples of methods not authorized by ZeniMax
Whether it provides an advantage or not, utilizing macros do fall under this category and are prohibited. Please be sure to let us know if you still have any further questions or concerns!
That's the most recent official responses I have seen to an inquiry likes yours - May 27th. If anyone knows of anything newer I'd love a link (and just because I'm curious) -
MrBeatDown✭✭✭✭how are they going to crack down on the dozens of actual hardware advantages pc players have between each other? that's why pc gaming outside of pve and singleplayer is crap.
I Will never own a console and haven't in over 10 years. I guess you can use a turbo controller for console.
[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Trolling & Baiting]Edited by ZOS_Racheal on July 21, 2015 9:15PM -
Now wait a moment . . the only time I would ever use a macro (assuming I could even figure out how to use my gaming keyboard's G key) is to say & emote Thank You to another player who came by & helped me run a delve and/or finish off a quest boss.
I'm just not quick enough to type this out due to nerve damage in my hands before said kind person runs off.
This rule seems just a bit harsh
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MrBeatDown✭✭✭✭ZOS_MollyH wrote: »Hello <snip> !
To clarify this a bit, using a third party program - in this case it would be your keyboard's profile software - to perform any game function is a violation of the ESOTU terms of service.
The phrase "change the game play experience" includes having third party software macros that automatically perform emotes. The game play experience in this case would be that it is designed to have you - the player - performing these actions manually, and by using a macro you are changing the game play experience.
Using macros, and using unapproved third party applications, programs, scripts or any other game modifying mechanic is a violation of the Terms of Service, and as such continuing to do so would put you at risk for having your account actioned.
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/1826830/#Comment_1826830
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/1827438/#Comment_1827438ZOS_MollyH wrote: »Hi <snip> !
The use of gaming keyboards and mice are not prohibited, but the use of third-party software or other means of creating macros to automate in-game functions is a violation. I apologize for the confusion!
Just to clarify further, part of the Terms of Service document includes an agreement to follow other Supplemental Terms pertaining to Your Service and/or Game, such as a Code of Conduct, provide guidance on behavior that ZeniMax deems to be inappropriate and specify restrictions on Your Account, Your use of the Game, or Your participation in the Services.
There is a paragraph in the Terms of Service agreement that is as follows:
You agree not to use any hardware or software or any other method of support that is not authorized by ZeniMax or that may in any way influence or advantage Your playing abilities, or influence or advantage Your use of the Services. Third party tools, the use of ‘bots’, “speed hacks”, “deep-link”, “page-scrape”, “robot”, “spider”, algorithm or other programs that copy or monitor any part of the Services (including, but not limited to, the Game(s) and/or forums), software that transmits, manipulates, or distributes (including, but are limited to, “mirroring”) the data stream or any aspect of the Services to another computer, server websites or other publication or distribution media, or software that permits You to use Services without human input are examples of methods not authorized by ZeniMax
Whether it provides an advantage or not, utilizing macros do fall under this category and are prohibited. Please be sure to let us know if you still have any further questions or concerns!
That's the most recent official responses I have seen to an inquiry likes yours - May 27th. If anyone knows of anything newer I'd love a link (and just because I'm curious)
So basically the API allows the use of macros and some of the addons that are being used are a violation of the TOS. -
MissBizz✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭MrBeatDown wrote: »ZOS_MollyH wrote: »Hello <snip> !
To clarify this a bit, using a third party program - in this case it would be your keyboard's profile software - to perform any game function is a violation of the ESOTU terms of service.
The phrase "change the game play experience" includes having third party software macros that automatically perform emotes. The game play experience in this case would be that it is designed to have you - the player - performing these actions manually, and by using a macro you are changing the game play experience.
Using macros, and using unapproved third party applications, programs, scripts or any other game modifying mechanic is a violation of the Terms of Service, and as such continuing to do so would put you at risk for having your account actioned.
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/1826830/#Comment_1826830
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/1827438/#Comment_1827438ZOS_MollyH wrote: »Hi <snip> !
The use of gaming keyboards and mice are not prohibited, but the use of third-party software or other means of creating macros to automate in-game functions is a violation. I apologize for the confusion!
Just to clarify further, part of the Terms of Service document includes an agreement to follow other Supplemental Terms pertaining to Your Service and/or Game, such as a Code of Conduct, provide guidance on behavior that ZeniMax deems to be inappropriate and specify restrictions on Your Account, Your use of the Game, or Your participation in the Services.
There is a paragraph in the Terms of Service agreement that is as follows:
You agree not to use any hardware or software or any other method of support that is not authorized by ZeniMax or that may in any way influence or advantage Your playing abilities, or influence or advantage Your use of the Services. Third party tools, the use of ‘bots’, “speed hacks”, “deep-link”, “page-scrape”, “robot”, “spider”, algorithm or other programs that copy or monitor any part of the Services (including, but not limited to, the Game(s) and/or forums), software that transmits, manipulates, or distributes (including, but are limited to, “mirroring”) the data stream or any aspect of the Services to another computer, server websites or other publication or distribution media, or software that permits You to use Services without human input are examples of methods not authorized by ZeniMax
Whether it provides an advantage or not, utilizing macros do fall under this category and are prohibited. Please be sure to let us know if you still have any further questions or concerns!
That's the most recent official responses I have seen to an inquiry likes yours - May 27th. If anyone knows of anything newer I'd love a link (and just because I'm curious)
So basically the API allows the use of macros and some of the addons that are being used are a violation of the TOS.
I'm not up for interoperating the info, I was just passing along the most recent official response I am aware of. Sorry.
