Tonight in Azura's Falling star. AKA Meteorville

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Bring it on down to Meteorville.

Tripwyr

EIGHTS wrote: »

Observant wrote: »

Many guilds stopped using Meteor because of the performance decrease associated with it... just not this DC guild.
I hope that clears things up for ya!

Lag doesn't occur by meteor.
Don't spread lies!

When the lag begin, no one use meteor.

Meteor causes significant lag. Our guild has entirely stopped using it while grouped, as have many other AD guilds. We see zero lag until other meteor using guilds join the fight.

Vatter wrote: »

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

Was great to not be able to damage anything and see entire meteor storms land on people and do zero damage but slow the servers to a grinding halt.

This was the worst lag I have seen since the days after the lighting patch when we had single digit FPS.

Are we just deluding ourselves at this point that this game will get any better?

Funny picture though. did anyone else get video of how ridiculous this was?

I was there. I fired off 14 meteors into your stacked up zerg in a row. it was glorious

You are the problem.

BigTone

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

zerg busting without meteor

https://youtu.be/_V-rCP-UeeY

THIS
Now all of my coworkers are staring at me because I can't stop laughing!

Basically we need Stone Cold to single target each member of the zerg and give them the Stone Cold Stunner, inflicting permanent unbreakable stun and then /drinkBudweiser over their bodies.

tonemd

The past couple of weeks whenever I PVP in AS (the official home of NaDC) it ALWAYS comes down to this. Lag battle. Pick your spot, Ales Farm, Ash Mine, Chalman mineside, Nikel backflag, etc., etc.

It's always a lag battle.

Minno

BigTone wrote: »

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

zerg busting without meteor

https://youtu.be/_V-rCP-UeeY

THIS
Now all of my coworkers are staring at me because I can't stop laughing!

Basically we need Stone Cold to single target each member of the zerg and give them the Stone Cold Stunner, inflicting permanent unbreakable stun and then /drinkBudweiser over their bodies.

New DC guild called W.W.F.

WarrioroftheWind_ESO

The camp resets in 2 days afaik and DC is in the lead with AD nipping at their heels. EP more or less doesn't give a crap about competitive scoring. I'd taken the past 2 camp cycles off from hardcore pvp to work on other projects, and seeing this sort of thing still persisting doesn't encourage me to return to the fray much, not just in seeing *** from the enemy but even more *** from my own faction. It's not making me hate the game its making me hate the MM aspect of it.

Minnesinger

The lag problems have been consistent. In my case, this week crashes have been daily. What the heck is the problem? I don´t see meteors dropping but still the latency is sky high. My internet is pretty decent. Azura is the most most populated campaign with 24/7 action thus I wouldn´t like to part with it. Lets see. I say one more time that meteors aren´t causing the majority of problems. There are just too much action at times. Everyone goes to one spot to wipe the enemy when it usually starts.

EIGHTS

Tripwyr wrote: »

Meteor causes significant lag. Our guild has entirely stopped using it while grouped, as have many other AD guilds. We see zero lag until other meteor using guilds join the fight.

You see!
You don't lag, but we are.
Because it begin lag so we use meteors.
Before lag, no one use meteors.

Who do the lag? I don't know.
When the server lag, I will use meteors and any AoE as I can!
I don't want to lose because someone make lag to win.

It's not a number problem.
There're only 10 EP may cause lag too.
If they will lose!.

bosmern_ESO

CITADALO wrote: »

WRX wrote: »

qsnoopyjr wrote: »

Those people don't even home on Azura.

They need to really discourage guesting to a different server.
Everyone is stacking on Azura Star.
Put a 75% LESS AP gain on guesting and people will stop lagging that server.

They know better to fight on even server, they like hiding on there buff server and going to a guest server and lagging it up.
They farm servers they aren't homed on. So put a 75% DECREASE in there AP when they go lag up another server so they can farm others.

OR
They can fight like a man and actually home on that server and care about there buffs and what not.
Meteor lag is easiest way to defeat players, they just farming people, in the tower or wherever they can get a lot of dummies in one spot so they can lag kill them.

Put a 75% less AP on them, this will hit the root of the problem.
Fixing meteor to reduce lag is just a cure of the symptom... Fixing people stacking on a server and people guesting to the most populated server to lag it up for AP farming... That's fixing the curing the actual problem. Because people will find other ways to exploit for AP farming. But as long as they have there safety net buff server.

Seeing as how you are part of NPK this *** is hilarious. You guys create lag so much its a joke, and I am not one to call people out on it. We have probably 10 videos tonight of us rolling over you guys, and another handful of you simply stacking in a ball on the white dress IN OPEN FIELD to supposedly "reduce dmg". Na, you arent reducing dmg, you are lagging the *** out of everyone else.

We stuck around for one of the lag fights and linked our DPS, I had 64 different player tags. Makes sense why your lead wears the dress, so all the 40+ not in group can follow him. Whisper him, and he doesn't reply. Disgrace.

LOL a zerg guild blaming another zerg guild for lag hahaha.

Is it really a zerg guild while there is a guild on each alliance that trains with 40+ people? you cant call say a guild zergs if they have one group of 24 while another guild has 3 groups of 24 that all run together in a tight ball.

CITADALO

JDar wrote: »

CITADALO wrote: »

LOL a zerg guild blaming another zerg guild for lag hahaha.

Have you fought on Azura's in the last two weeks? The blue zerg lag is unprecedented. Nothing any other medium to large guild does unintentionally comes close.

Misfitz do not use meteor, and I understand some of the other AD guilds discourage its use as well. If there is another large raid playing alongside us, we go do something else. I understand that 20-24 VR14's with ample resources using AoE spells in a small area hurts the server but at least we aren't out there not giving a flip about it. What are DC leaders doing for lag prevention?

i was there on Azura when your guild laged the server at Alma ruma temple.The server lag not cause that you are using meteor, its lag cause your blob zerg stack on crown and spam AOE.

bosmern_ESO

JDar wrote: »

I think this thread needs some illustration.

From what I saw last night, that was about half their group.

CITADALO

bosmern_ESO wrote: »

CITADALO wrote: »

WRX wrote: »

qsnoopyjr wrote: »

Those people don't even home on Azura.

They need to really discourage guesting to a different server.
Everyone is stacking on Azura Star.
Put a 75% LESS AP gain on guesting and people will stop lagging that server.

They know better to fight on even server, they like hiding on there buff server and going to a guest server and lagging it up.
They farm servers they aren't homed on. So put a 75% DECREASE in there AP when they go lag up another server so they can farm others.

OR
They can fight like a man and actually home on that server and care about there buffs and what not.
Meteor lag is easiest way to defeat players, they just farming people, in the tower or wherever they can get a lot of dummies in one spot so they can lag kill them.

Put a 75% less AP on them, this will hit the root of the problem.
Fixing meteor to reduce lag is just a cure of the symptom... Fixing people stacking on a server and people guesting to the most populated server to lag it up for AP farming... That's fixing the curing the actual problem. Because people will find other ways to exploit for AP farming. But as long as they have there safety net buff server.

Seeing as how you are part of NPK this *** is hilarious. You guys create lag so much its a joke, and I am not one to call people out on it. We have probably 10 videos tonight of us rolling over you guys, and another handful of you simply stacking in a ball on the white dress IN OPEN FIELD to supposedly "reduce dmg". Na, you arent reducing dmg, you are lagging the *** out of everyone else.

We stuck around for one of the lag fights and linked our DPS, I had 64 different player tags. Makes sense why your lead wears the dress, so all the 40+ not in group can follow him. Whisper him, and he doesn't reply. Disgrace.

LOL a zerg guild blaming another zerg guild for lag hahaha.

Is it really a zerg guild while there is a guild on each alliance that trains with 40+ people? you cant call say a guild zergs if they have one group of 24 while another guild has 3 groups of 24 that all run together in a tight ball.

A zerg is a group10+ that stack on crown and spam AOE , that's my definition.

EIGHTS

AD and EP zergs are back to Azura's star again.
And they won just a moment ago.
They took everything from DC.

If they can win, the server never lag.
If they will lose, the server 2000% lag.

So what's the problem?
I don't know! Do you know?

qsnoopyjr

WarrioroftheWind_ESO wrote: »

The camp resets in 2 days afaik and DC is in the lead with AD nipping at their heels. EP more or less doesn't give a crap about competitive scoring. I'd taken the past 2 camp cycles off from hardcore pvp to work on other projects, and seeing this sort of thing still persisting doesn't encourage me to return to the fray much, not just in seeing *** from the enemy but even more *** from my own faction. It's not making me hate the game its making me hate the MM aspect of it.

Yup, that's point of http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/193608/one-way-to-get-reduce-lag#latest

EP, is all on another campaign, they guest to Azura Star and pop lock it just to farm AP.

They couldn't care if they are winning or not, they have everything on there home campaign so no need to take stuff on another campaign.

Due to them just coming to a server to lag it up, that's why they should reduce AP gains by 75% while guesting. This way EP has to care if they want good gold items (you get crap if your alliance loses)...

I saw Havoc mentioned in this thread..
They on Azura???
They sure don't home on Azura. Do you see Tom Hanks on Azura?? Whats that? Ya but he's homed on Chillrend.. Whats that?? You say he's been playing Azura the last couple weeks and not Chillrend.. Ahh I get it EP just uses it as a buff server so they can lag servers that aren't there buff server.

Havoc sure wouldn't be tower and D tick farming people if they were taking all of his keeps and giving his alliance a bad score. He'd have to actually... Play the game as intended.

Publius_Scipio

I grow tired of all this. If i come back here I will FLEX and my muscles will expand and take up the entire area of this thread making it explode.

EIGHTS

I think why AD and EP zerg are back to Azura's star.
Because DC is the top score at Azura's star,
They come again to destroy everything.

That's all.

AD and EP will not listen!
I think whole DC will leave Azura's star again.

I really don't know why they do this again and again.
They have a lot of hate I think.
It's so sad if you hate someone so much in a game.
But they won't listen!

Publius_Scipio

EIGHTS wrote: »

I think why AD and EP zerg are back to Azura's star.
Because DC is the top score at Azura's star,
They come again to destroy everything.

That's all.

AD and EP will not listen!
I think whole DC will leave Azura's star again.

I really don't know why they do this again and again.
They have a lot of hate I think.
It's so sad if you hate someone so much in a game.
But they won't listen!

I lol'd. On second thought I won't flex.

qsnoopyjr

See AD actually tries and competes.

But EP, guesting to the populated server from there home server, just to glory I mean AP farm, not care about score and lagging it up is pretty messed up.

You know GW2 a game very very similar to TESO.
They recognized early that people are just rank farming, could care less if they win or not.
They changed the way you get rank points/ glory points/ AP points..
From farming others... To Actually Winning The Campaign/ Game.

Should take notes of GW2.. They always seem to be 2 steps forward of you guys.
I think ESO has better concept.. But GW2 they way they do things... Always 2 steps forward.
Competitive scene
PvE scene
Every scene
Mainly the way they handle things.
GW2 is always 2 steps forward.

What really boggles me is that this game is more heavy on Magic.
Yet GW2 has something called a Mesmer portal..
Theres no such thing as Mesmer portals inside in ESO.

..

How 'bout that spellcrafting they promised 4 months ago..
I'm sure most would make a meteor storm tornado.

Publius_Scipio

qsnoopyjr wrote: »

See AD actually tries and competes.

But EP, guesting to the populated server from there home server, just to glory I mean AP farm, not care about score and lagging it up is pretty messed up.

You know GW2 a game very very similar to TESO.
They recognized early that people are just rank farming, could care less if they win or not.
They changed the way you get rank points/ glory points/ AP points..
From farming others... To Actually Winning The Campaign/ Game.

Should take notes of GW2.. They always seem to be 2 steps forward of you guys.
I think ESO has better concept.. But GW2 they way they do things... Always 2 steps forward.
Competitive scene
PvE scene
Every scene
Mainly the way they handle things.
GW2 is always 2 steps forward.

What really boggles me is that this game is more heavy on Magic.
Yet GW2 has something called a Mesmer portal..
Theres no such thing as Mesmer portals inside in ESO.

..

How 'bout that spellcrafting they promised 4 months ago..
I'm sure most would make a meteor storm tornado.

The EP are pariahs, what do you expect them to do? They have to go looking for fights because everyone bailed on the campaign.

Hershey kiss sized biceps pariahs I might add.

And who knows where spell crafting stands. The person spear heading the project from what I remember left ZOS. And with all the balancing and tweaks ZOS has in the to do list, I wouldn't expect spell crafting anytime soon. Rather I would tell ZOS to hold off on spell crafting and any other new systems until other more needed balancing is done.

Minno

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

qsnoopyjr wrote: »

See

The EP are pariahs, what do you expect them to do? They have to go looking for fights because everyone bailed on the campaign.

Hershey kiss sized biceps pariahs I might add.

Salty chocolate biceps.

k2blader

Thankfully I missed that ridiculousness but I did help keep you from repairing a wall. :-)

Mr_Nobody

Been long since i checked a 30 day campaign, so i went to Azuras yesterday. Was solo messing with grps of 30 EP and killing 10-15 in an open field before they even realize what happened.

~ Tunnel vision at its best

All this time, i thought DC are the kings of it, i guess i was wrong. Or did some DC reroll EP? lmao.

AhPook_Is_Here

hammayolettuce wrote: »

Many guilds have indeed stopped using meteor for the simple fact that it makes lag worse. However, it is a well known fact that a certain DC guild does encourage its members to spam it when there is lag and they some how have convinced themselves this is an honorable way to win a fight even when it ends in a draw and the opposing group just leaves the area.

I don't think that is the definition of a draw. Forfeit was the word you were looking for?

Jules

Weberda wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

Are we just deluding ourselves at this point that this game will get any better?

Yes.

I really really hate to agree with you Jules but there seems to be no choice after months of this going on. Their possible "fix" for LOS won't do it since the primary benefit of that will be on battles within keeps. They gave players certain skills that the megaserver and the coding can't handle en mass. Obviously you can't take those skills away now so the only real solution is to fix the hardware/software issues so that we can have many players in the same location doing what was advertised early on as massive PvP battles. I put the odds of that happening now at about nil.

It's not like it's something I want to believe. I just endorse logic over hope in these situations.

There has been zero evidence that anything will be done to improve this lag. They acknowledge it occasionally, and nothing happens. It's been this way for months on end. And by "like this" I mean- this portion of the game is just straight up broken. It just does not function in the way it was promised. You would think this would be #1, top of the pile priority for them. However that's just not the case.

The lag has decimated the pvp community in this game. And their lax response time is just utterly neglectful.

To put it in more human terms, your heart has suddenly stopped pumping blood to all of your other vital organs.
But don't fret, because ZOS will be RIGHT with you in a couple months.

Yeah, you're gonna be dead. Much like this game.

Phoenix99

Jules wrote: »

Weberda wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

Are we just deluding ourselves at this point that this game will get any better?

Yes.

I really really hate to agree with you Jules but there seems to be no choice after months of this going on. Their possible "fix" for LOS won't do it since the primary benefit of that will be on battles within keeps. They gave players certain skills that the megaserver and the coding can't handle en mass. Obviously you can't take those skills away now so the only real solution is to fix the hardware/software issues so that we can have many players in the same location doing what was advertised early on as massive PvP battles. I put the odds of that happening now at about nil.

It's not like it's something I want to believe. I just endorse logic over hope in these situations.

There has been zero evidence that anything will be done to improve this lag. They acknowledge it occasionally, and nothing happens. It's been this way for months on end. And by "like this" I mean- this portion of the game is just straight up broken. It just does not function in the way it was promised. You would think this would be #1, top of the pile priority for them. However that's just not the case.

The lag has decimated the pvp community in this game. And their lax response time is just utterly neglectful.

To put it in more human terms, your heart has suddenly stopped pumping blood to all of your other vital organs.
But don't fret, because ZOS will be RIGHT with you in a couple months.

Yeah, you're gonna be dead. Much like this game.

Because they cannot fix the lag... to fix the lag, you would have to cut down the ability to spam skills... that means you would have to drop regen and hard cap it at 600 with 18k max and add Cooldowns to skills...

MisterBigglesworth

Phoenix99 wrote: »

Because they cannot fix the lag... to fix the lag, you would have to cut down the ability to spam skills... that means you would have to drop regen and hard cap it at 600 with 18k max and add Cooldowns to skills...

Oh nooo not the dreaded cooldown! booo hisss!!!
I mean, it's only like basically the proven model for almost every MMO out there for very good reasons (which are obvious to most developers)... why would they be in THIS game?

Publius_Scipio

MisterBigglesworth wrote: »

Phoenix99 wrote: »

Because they cannot fix the lag... to fix the lag, you would have to cut down the ability to spam skills... that means you would have to drop regen and hard cap it at 600 with 18k max and add Cooldowns to skills...

Oh nooo not the dreaded cooldown! booo hisss!!!
I mean, it's only like basically the proven model for almost every MMO out there for very good reasons (which are obvious to most developers)... why would they be in THIS game?

Mister BICEPSworth

Elijah_Crow

WRX wrote: »

qsnoopyjr wrote: »

Those people don't even home on Azura.

They need to really discourage guesting to a different server.
Everyone is stacking on Azura Star.
Put a 75% LESS AP gain on guesting and people will stop lagging that server.

They know better to fight on even server, they like hiding on there buff server and going to a guest server and lagging it up.
They farm servers they aren't homed on. So put a 75% DECREASE in there AP when they go lag up another server so they can farm others.

OR
They can fight like a man and actually home on that server and care about there buffs and what not.
Meteor lag is easiest way to defeat players, they just farming people, in the tower or wherever they can get a lot of dummies in one spot so they can lag kill them.

Put a 75% less AP on them, this will hit the root of the problem.
Fixing meteor to reduce lag is just a cure of the symptom... Fixing people stacking on a server and people guesting to the most populated server to lag it up for AP farming... That's fixing the curing the actual problem. Because people will find other ways to exploit for AP farming. But as long as they have there safety net buff server.

Seeing as how you are part of NPK this *** is hilarious. You guys create lag so much its a joke, and I am not one to call people out on it. We have probably 10 videos tonight of us rolling over you guys, and another handful of you simply stacking in a ball on the white dress IN OPEN FIELD to supposedly "reduce dmg". Na, you arent reducing dmg, you are lagging the *** out of everyone else.

We stuck around for one of the lag fights and linked our DPS, I had 64 different player tags. Makes sense why your lead wears the dress, so all the 40+ not in group can follow him. Whisper him, and he doesn't reply. Disgrace.

Have to defend NPK here. Stacking on the white dress? You must mean the leet trash that left NPK to form the kiddie guild Chuck Norris. NPK's not that kind of guild. At least any not any more.

Grampa_Smurf

Elijah_Crow wrote: »

Have to defend NPK here. Stacking on the white dress? You must mean the leet trash that left NPK to form the kiddie guild Chuck Norris. NPK's not that kind of guild. At least any not any more.

ROFL Shots fired and ps most where kicked for no reason but for PvPing in same campaign

JDar

i was there on Azura when your guild laged the server at Alma ruma temple.The server lag not cause that you are using meteor, its lag cause your blob zerg stack on crown and spam AOE.

What are we supposed to do, line up outside the temple using single target abilities and send one person in for the scroll?