Tonight in Azura's Falling star. AKA Meteorville

Yolokin_Swagonborn

Was great to not be able to damage anything and see entire meteor storms land on people and do zero damage but slow the servers to a grinding halt.

This was the worst lag I have seen since the days after the lighting patch when we had single digit FPS.

Are we just deluding ourselves at this point that this game will get any better?

Funny picture though. did anyone else get video of how ridiculous this was?

Pchela

What a miserable mess. Glad I slept through tonight's events

qsnoopyjr

Those people don't even home on Azura.

They need to really discourage guesting to a different server.
Everyone is stacking on Azura Star.
Put a 75% LESS AP gain on guesting and people will stop lagging that server.

They know better to fight on even server, they like hiding on there buff server and going to a guest server and lagging it up.
They farm servers they aren't homed on. So put a 75% DECREASE in there AP when they go lag up another server so they can farm others.

OR
They can fight like a man and actually home on that server and care about there buffs and what not.
Meteor lag is easiest way to defeat players, they just farming people, in the tower or wherever they can get a lot of dummies in one spot so they can lag kill them.

Put a 75% less AP on them, this will hit the root of the problem.
Fixing meteor to reduce lag is just a cure of the symptom... Fixing people stacking on a server and people guesting to the most populated server to lag it up for AP farming... That's fixing the curing the actual problem. Because people will find other ways to exploit for AP farming. But as long as they have there safety net buff server.

WRX

qsnoopyjr wrote: »

Those people don't even home on Azura.

They need to really discourage guesting to a different server.
Everyone is stacking on Azura Star.
Put a 75% LESS AP gain on guesting and people will stop lagging that server.

They know better to fight on even server, they like hiding on there buff server and going to a guest server and lagging it up.
They farm servers they aren't homed on. So put a 75% DECREASE in there AP when they go lag up another server so they can farm others.

OR
They can fight like a man and actually home on that server and care about there buffs and what not.
Meteor lag is easiest way to defeat players, they just farming people, in the tower or wherever they can get a lot of dummies in one spot so they can lag kill them.

Put a 75% less AP on them, this will hit the root of the problem.
Fixing meteor to reduce lag is just a cure of the symptom... Fixing people stacking on a server and people guesting to the most populated server to lag it up for AP farming... That's fixing the curing the actual problem. Because people will find other ways to exploit for AP farming. But as long as they have there safety net buff server.

Seeing as how you are part of NPK this *** is hilarious. You guys create lag so much its a joke, and I am not one to call people out on it. We have probably 10 videos tonight of us rolling over you guys, and another handful of you simply stacking in a ball on the white dress IN OPEN FIELD to supposedly "reduce dmg". Na, you arent reducing dmg, you are lagging the *** out of everyone else.

We stuck around for one of the lag fights and linked our DPS, I had 64 different player tags. Makes sense why your lead wears the dress, so all the 40+ not in group can follow him. Whisper him, and he doesn't reply. Disgrace.

CITADALO

WRX wrote: »

qsnoopyjr wrote: »

Those people don't even home on Azura.

They need to really discourage guesting to a different server.
Everyone is stacking on Azura Star.
Put a 75% LESS AP gain on guesting and people will stop lagging that server.

They know better to fight on even server, they like hiding on there buff server and going to a guest server and lagging it up.
They farm servers they aren't homed on. So put a 75% DECREASE in there AP when they go lag up another server so they can farm others.

OR
They can fight like a man and actually home on that server and care about there buffs and what not.
Meteor lag is easiest way to defeat players, they just farming people, in the tower or wherever they can get a lot of dummies in one spot so they can lag kill them.

Put a 75% less AP on them, this will hit the root of the problem.
Fixing meteor to reduce lag is just a cure of the symptom... Fixing people stacking on a server and people guesting to the most populated server to lag it up for AP farming... That's fixing the curing the actual problem. Because people will find other ways to exploit for AP farming. But as long as they have there safety net buff server.

Seeing as how you are part of NPK this *** is hilarious. You guys create lag so much its a joke, and I am not one to call people out on it. We have probably 10 videos tonight of us rolling over you guys, and another handful of you simply stacking in a ball on the white dress IN OPEN FIELD to supposedly "reduce dmg". Na, you arent reducing dmg, you are lagging the *** out of everyone else.

We stuck around for one of the lag fights and linked our DPS, I had 64 different player tags. Makes sense why your lead wears the dress, so all the 40+ not in group can follow him. Whisper him, and he doesn't reply. Disgrace.

LOL a zerg guild blaming another zerg guild for lag hahaha.

Turelus

Personally I blame ZOS for lag, not the players using the current meta of best skills.

JDar

CITADALO wrote: »

LOL a zerg guild blaming another zerg guild for lag hahaha.

Have you fought on Azura's in the last two weeks? The blue zerg lag is unprecedented. Nothing any other medium to large guild does unintentionally comes close.

Misfitz do not use meteor, and I understand some of the other AD guilds discourage its use as well. If there is another large raid playing alongside us, we go do something else. I understand that 20-24 VR14's with ample resources using AoE spells in a small area hurts the server but at least we aren't out there not giving a flip about it. What are DC leaders doing for lag prevention?

JDar

Also point of information in regards to OP's post: the lighting patch FPS crisis was not the same kind of lag we are experiencing now. That was just poor graphics performance.

The scale of the unplayability is about the same though.

JDar

I think this thread needs some illustration.

BigTone

@Yolokin_Swagonborn hit me up for that meteor only guild man, we could wreck some ***.

I really wish I had some video of the epicness that was glademist last night, However even without my video recording software on, I crashed four times in fifteen minutes.

@WRX Blame whoever you want for stacking in one place, but whenever Glade is attacked you have to expect every single available DC to respond. Not saying you were the one there, but the majority of the lag around 9:30pm est was created by the fight at Glade, and it wasn't yellow or blue stacking in one place, it was just an epic fight. Of course, once it got to the point of nobody taking any damage whatsoever and me not being able to even cast my negate, I did decide to open the cosmos and rain meteors on every banana *** stuck inside Glademist.

We retook Glade without even killing anyone.

Working as intended.

kevlarto_ESO

What's odd about the lag is sometimes my small group of 3 to 4 players will encounter one person and all the sudden, can't swap weapons cant target cant do anything, I look on the map no big fights are going on anywhere on the map, I have noticed it is with the same players no matter where we run across them, as soon as they leave the area the lag goes with them, I sure would hate to think a few players have found away to lag others, but it's strange for sure.

BigTone

JDar wrote: »

CITADALO wrote: »

LOL a zerg guild blaming another zerg guild for lag hahaha.

Have you fought on Azura's in the last two weeks? The blue zerg lag is unprecedented. Nothing any other medium to large guild does unintentionally comes close.

Misfitz do not use meteor, and I understand some of the other AD guilds discourage its use as well. If there is another large raid playing alongside us, we go do something else. I understand that 20-24 VR14's with ample resources using AoE spells in a small area hurts the server but at least we aren't out there not giving a flip about it. What are DC leaders doing for lag prevention?

The fact that this actually has to be considered makes me sad. ZoS just needs to fix it, not the players.

Jules

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

Are we just deluding ourselves at this point that this game will get any better?

Yes.

Weberda

Jules wrote: »

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

Are we just deluding ourselves at this point that this game will get any better?

Yes.

I really really hate to agree with you Jules but there seems to be no choice after months of this going on. Their possible "fix" for LOS won't do it since the primary benefit of that will be on battles within keeps. They gave players certain skills that the megaserver and the coding can't handle en mass. Obviously you can't take those skills away now so the only real solution is to fix the hardware/software issues so that we can have many players in the same location doing what was advertised early on as massive PvP battles. I put the odds of that happening now at about nil.

hammayolettuce

CITADALO wrote: »

WRX wrote: »

qsnoopyjr wrote: »

Those people don't even home on Azura.

They need to really discourage guesting to a different server.
Everyone is stacking on Azura Star.
Put a 75% LESS AP gain on guesting and people will stop lagging that server.

They know better to fight on even server, they like hiding on there buff server and going to a guest server and lagging it up.
They farm servers they aren't homed on. So put a 75% DECREASE in there AP when they go lag up another server so they can farm others.

OR
They can fight like a man and actually home on that server and care about there buffs and what not.
Meteor lag is easiest way to defeat players, they just farming people, in the tower or wherever they can get a lot of dummies in one spot so they can lag kill them.

Put a 75% less AP on them, this will hit the root of the problem.
Fixing meteor to reduce lag is just a cure of the symptom... Fixing people stacking on a server and people guesting to the most populated server to lag it up for AP farming... That's fixing the curing the actual problem. Because people will find other ways to exploit for AP farming. But as long as they have there safety net buff server.

Seeing as how you are part of NPK this *** is hilarious. You guys create lag so much its a joke, and I am not one to call people out on it. We have probably 10 videos tonight of us rolling over you guys, and another handful of you simply stacking in a ball on the white dress IN OPEN FIELD to supposedly "reduce dmg". Na, you arent reducing dmg, you are lagging the *** out of everyone else.

We stuck around for one of the lag fights and linked our DPS, I had 64 different player tags. Makes sense why your lead wears the dress, so all the 40+ not in group can follow him. Whisper him, and he doesn't reply. Disgrace.

LOL a zerg guild blaming another zerg guild for lag hahaha.

since when is a 24 man group a zerg? I do not understand why this is being spread around recently... For months when this game came out each faction ran tons of full raids and no one called them zergs.

Last i checked a zerg is when you have multiple full raids in one place or a full raid with tons of puggies.

EIGHTS

JDar wrote: »

I think this thread needs some illustration.

Ha!

Do you see AD are 50+ people at Rayles?
Spam AoE make lots of lag to win.

AD or EP make lag, we also use meteor back.
What's the problem?

AD are really strange. You don't fight with EP who take your home keep.
Always come to Ash or Rayles, I really don't know why?

Vatter

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

Was great to not be able to damage anything and see entire meteor storms land on people and do zero damage but slow the servers to a grinding halt.

This was the worst lag I have seen since the days after the lighting patch when we had single digit FPS.

Are we just deluding ourselves at this point that this game will get any better?

Funny picture though. did anyone else get video of how ridiculous this was?

I was there. I fired off 14 meteors into your stacked up zerg in a row. it was glorious

Publius_Scipio

This will happen to any campaign that is pop locked with guilds running around. We all know this.

I don't see guild groups all the sudden not popping the skills they want to because of lag. And all you guild leaders out there know you won't change your tactics. So this whole thread up to this point is pointless.

Now allow me to make this thread no longer pointless.

BICEPS!!!

See? Now everything is good here.

AhPook_Is_Here

Can't we just blame Havoc for this?

Psilent

CITADALO wrote: »

WRX wrote: »

qsnoopyjr wrote: »

Those people don't even home on Azura.

They need to really discourage guesting to a different server.
Everyone is stacking on Azura Star.
Put a 75% LESS AP gain on guesting and people will stop lagging that server.

They know better to fight on even server, they like hiding on there buff server and going to a guest server and lagging it up.
They farm servers they aren't homed on. So put a 75% DECREASE in there AP when they go lag up another server so they can farm others.

OR
They can fight like a man and actually home on that server and care about there buffs and what not.
Meteor lag is easiest way to defeat players, they just farming people, in the tower or wherever they can get a lot of dummies in one spot so they can lag kill them.

Put a 75% less AP on them, this will hit the root of the problem.
Fixing meteor to reduce lag is just a cure of the symptom... Fixing people stacking on a server and people guesting to the most populated server to lag it up for AP farming... That's fixing the curing the actual problem. Because people will find other ways to exploit for AP farming. But as long as they have there safety net buff server.

Seeing as how you are part of NPK this *** is hilarious. You guys create lag so much its a joke, and I am not one to call people out on it. We have probably 10 videos tonight of us rolling over you guys, and another handful of you simply stacking in a ball on the white dress IN OPEN FIELD to supposedly "reduce dmg". Na, you arent reducing dmg, you are lagging the *** out of everyone else.

We stuck around for one of the lag fights and linked our DPS, I had 64 different player tags. Makes sense why your lead wears the dress, so all the 40+ not in group can follow him. Whisper him, and he doesn't reply. Disgrace.

LOL a zerg guild blaming another zerg guild for lag hahaha.

20 people isn't a Zerg. Nice try.

Manoekin

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

This will happen to any campaign that is pop locked with guilds running around. We all know this.

I don't see guild groups all the sudden not popping the skills they want to because of lag. And all you guild leaders out there know you won't change your tactics. So this whole thread up to this point is pointless.

Now allow me to make this thread no longer pointless.

BICEPS!!!

See? Now everything is good here.

Except many guilds stopped using Meteor because of the performance decrease associated with it... just not this DC guild.

Publius_Scipio

Manoekin wrote: »

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

This will happen to any campaign that is pop locked with guilds running around. We all know this.

I don't see guild groups all the sudden not popping the skills they want to because of lag. And all you guild leaders out there know you won't change your tactics. So this whole thread up to this point is pointless.

Now allow me to make this thread no longer pointless.

BICEPS!!!

See? Now everything is good here.

Except many guilds stopped using Meteor because of the performance decrease associated with it... just not this DC guild.

What?

Observant

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

Manoekin wrote: »

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

This will happen to any campaign that is pop locked with guilds running around. We all know this.

I don't see guild groups all the sudden not popping the skills they want to because of lag. And all you guild leaders out there know you won't change your tactics. So this whole thread up to this point is pointless.

Now allow me to make this thread no longer pointless.

BICEPS!!!

See? Now everything is good here.

Except many guilds stopped using Meteor because of the performance decrease associated with it... just not this DC guild.

What?

Many guilds stopped using Meteor because of the performance decrease associated with it... just not this DC guild.

I hope that clears things up for ya!

Publius_Scipio

Observant wrote: »

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

Manoekin wrote: »

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

This will happen to any campaign that is pop locked with guilds running around. We all know this.

I don't see guild groups all the sudden not popping the skills they want to because of lag. And all you guild leaders out there know you won't change your tactics. So this whole thread up to this point is pointless.

Now allow me to make this thread no longer pointless.

BICEPS!!!

See? Now everything is good here.

Except many guilds stopped using Meteor because of the performance decrease associated with it... just not this DC guild.

What?

Many guilds stopped using Meteor because of the performance decrease associated with it... just not this DC guild.

I hope that clears things up for ya!

What?

Minno

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

This will happen to any campaign that is pop locked with guilds running around. We all know this.

I don't see guild groups all the sudden not popping the skills they want to because of lag. And all you guild leaders out there know you won't change your tactics. So this whole thread up to this point is pointless.

Now allow me to make this thread no longer pointless.

BICEPS!!!

See? Now everything is good here.

Due to the increase in biceps requirements, all DC templars are required to slot Soulshine chest armor to show off all these newly acquired "Smurf-cles " - MGM

EIGHTS

Observant wrote: »

Many guilds stopped using Meteor because of the performance decrease associated with it... just not this DC guild.
I hope that clears things up for ya!

Lag doesn't occur by meteor.
Don't spread lies!

When the lag begin, no one use meteor.

Observant

EIGHTS wrote: »

Observant wrote: »

Many guilds stopped using Meteor because of the performance decrease associated with it... just not this DC guild.
I hope that clears things up for ya!

Lag doesn't occur by meteor.
Don't spread lies!

When the lag begin, no one use meteor.

You're right, it just makes the latency 100x worse.

Jolinius

I watched a blue guild last night between ash and nikel huddled up not more than 5 meters apart spamming every aoe they could not even close to an enemy. I watched as they ran up and i8 was still casting my shields fine and then they started spamming aoe for no reason and the lag happened. Im not a tinfoil hat person so my firsat though was they must be running an exercise or training move.But they didnt move they just stayed there spamming aoe and lagging out the server.I left soon after that and swicthed campaigns and noticed that the ad guild that was on azuras switched also probably to get away from lag.I believe this was the blue guilds intent. Could someone explain this please?They didnt appear to be fighting and they didnt appear to be training.

BigTone

Jolinius wrote: »

I watched a blue guild last night between ash and nikel huddled up not more than 5 meters apart spamming every aoe they could not even close to an enemy. I watched as they ran up and i8 was still casting my shields fine and then they started spamming aoe for no reason and the lag happened. Im not a tinfoil hat person so my firsat though was they must be running an exercise or training move.But they didnt move they just stayed there spamming aoe and lagging out the server.I left soon after that and swicthed campaigns and noticed that the ad guild that was on azuras switched also probably to get away from lag.I believe this was the blue guilds intent. Could someone explain this please?They didnt appear to be fighting and they didnt appear to be training.

Please see:

forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/193605/oh-wow-ep-really-do-have-organized-group-to-create-lag#latest

And I'm not trying to say that only EP does this, I believe people will do this regardless of faction.

hammayolettuce

Many guilds have indeed stopped using meteor for the simple fact that it makes lag worse. However, it is a well known fact that a certain DC guild does encourage its members to spam it when there is lag and they some how have convinced themselves this is an honorable way to win a fight even when it ends in a draw and the opposing group just leaves the area.

Publius_Scipio

https://youtu.be/-bzB2N9xnJk

zerg busting without meteor

https://youtu.be/_V-rCP-UeeY

Wait till the AD come rushing through the Nikel mileage and they see the headlights of the black truck coming down the road from Ash. My right BICEP behind the wheel and myself in the passenger seat.