Half breed characters

jkemmery

I remember way back in the day, you could roll (literally, rolling dice) a D&D character that was a half breed of 2 races. I would love to see this in ESO. Allow a character to be half way between two races, which would mean they get half of the buffs, i.e. 50% of each buff from each race. This, I think, would allow a much greater degree of character customization to fit the style you want. For instance, I could roll up a DK Magica Tank that was a Nord/Altmer cross to get the health regen benefits from the Nord parent and the magica benefits from the Altmer parent. Plus, for the RP'ers they could make up some really interesting backstories! Just curious what other's thoughts on this concept would be.

Samadhi

Bretons are part Mer and part Human.

jkemmery

Samadhi wrote: »

Bretons are part Mer and part Human.

True, but they do have distinctive racial passives. But that's really not the same as allowing a cross of any 2 existing races, right? Bretons can't be a half Kajiht - half Argonian, right?

dsalter

jkemmery wrote: »

Samadhi wrote: »

Bretons are part Mer and part Human.

True, but they do have distinctive racial passives. But that's really not the same as allowing a cross of any 2 existing races, right? Bretons can't be a half Kajiht - half Argonian, right?

if i remember my lore right, half breeds barely exist. cross breeding happens but they usually take a majority of one or the other. the vampire orc "gray prince" in oblivion was evidence of such a thing finding out his fathers true race.

Armann

This lore book explains how crossbreeding works in TES: http://uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Notes_on_Racial_Phylogeny

Sithisvoid

I always used to roll a half elf for the prolonged lifespan.

Gyudan

I wonder what a crossbreed of Khajiit and Argonian would look like.

lathbury

Gyudan wrote: »

I wonder what a crossbreed of Khajiit and Argonian would look like.

broken

Valrien

Usually "half-breeds" take on the race of their mother in Elder Scrolls.

lathbury

Valrien wrote: »

Usually "half-breeds" take on the race of their mother in Elder Scrolls.

yeah so the lorebook says but if that were true bretons wouldnt be a race and all mer would be the same

Phinix1

There are some possible combinations already, for RP purposes, using the standard sliders:

• Very short Altmer with brownish skin = Bosmalt
• Dark haired, dark skinned Imperial = Rimperial (or just a sunny grape-stomping Colovian /shrug)
• Extremely stout Nord with greenish tint = Norc (or drank Argonian ale)
• Extremely pale light-haired Dunmer = Brunmer (or vampire)

Khajiit are probably too exclusive for inter-breeding, though it would be pretty cool to see a Bosmer girl with cat ears and a tail.

Argonians I don't think are compatible, due to the whole egg-laying thing. But who knows?

JediRift

Gyudan wrote: »

I wonder what a crossbreed of Khajiit and Argonian would look like.

Thanks for the nightmare fuel.

Iluvrien

lathbury wrote: »

Valrien wrote: »

Usually "half-breeds" take on the race of their mother in Elder Scrolls.

yeah so the lorebook says but if that were true bretons wouldnt be a race and all mer would be the same

Really? So adaptation, evolution and acts of Daedric Princes (the Dunmer) acting over the millennia can't begin to account for the differences we observe?

Steelshiv

Gyudan wrote: »

I wonder what a crossbreed of Khajiit and Argonian would look like.

Pretty much this

dodgehopper_ESO

Steelshiv wrote: »

Gyudan wrote: »

I wonder what a crossbreed of Khajiit and Argonian would look like.

Pretty much this

Abomination!

Gidorick

I've suggested a half-breed mechanic that follows the rules of phylogenetics laid out by Notes on Racial Phylogeny and Biology

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/153977/eso-character-offspring-a-phylogenetics-concept/p1

lathbury

Iluvrien wrote: »

lathbury wrote: »

Valrien wrote: »

Usually "half-breeds" take on the race of their mother in Elder Scrolls.

yeah so the lorebook says but if that were true bretons wouldnt be a race and all mer would be the same

Really? So adaptation, evolution and acts of Daedric Princes (the Dunmer) acting over the millennia can't begin to account for the differences we observe?

its clearly stated in the the lore that bretons are a mix of men and elves. this wouldnt be true if they only inherited the traits of one or the other.

milesrodneymcneely2_ESO

jkemmery wrote: »

I remember way back in the day, you could roll (literally, rolling dice) a D&D character that was a half breed of 2 races. I would love to see this in ESO. Allow a character to be half way between two races, which would mean they get half of the buffs, i.e. 50% of each buff from each race. This, I think, would allow a much greater degree of character customization to fit the style you want. For instance, I could roll up a DK Magica Tank that was a Nord/Altmer cross to get the health regen benefits from the Nord parent and the magica benefits from the Altmer parent. Plus, for the RP'ers they could make up some really interesting backstories! Just curious what other's thoughts on this concept would be.

You played a Half-elf Fighter/Mage/Thief/Cleric, didn't you?

Bindi

if half breeds in Elder Scrolls lore are extremely rare then i have to say it shouldn't be in the game.. i feel like at least half of the player base would make mixed-race characters in an effort to be unique and eventually all we'd have in game are vampiric horned cats. or just simple half mer/human but still. it'd be too common.

notimetocare

lathbury wrote: »

Valrien wrote: »

Usually "half-breeds" take on the race of their mother in Elder Scrolls.

yeah so the lorebook says but if that were true bretons wouldnt be a race and all mer would be the same

So while a Breton woman would have a Breton child, if the father was for example altmer, some traits fem the father wild present. Ex: taller than normal, facial features, etc. Bretons are the result of multigenerational interbreeding. Eventually the traits became their own kind of common.
I mean seriously, read the first few lines of the lorebook...

lathbury

lathbury wrote: »

Iluvrien wrote: »

lathbury wrote: »

Valrien wrote: »

Usually "half-breeds" take on the race of their mother in Elder Scrolls.

yeah so the lorebook says but if that were true bretons wouldnt be a race and all mer would be the same

Really? So adaptation, evolution and acts of Daedric Princes (the Dunmer) acting over the millennia can't begin to account for the differences we observe?

its clearly stated in the the lore that bretons are a mix of men and elves. this wouldnt be true if they only inherited the traits of one or the other.

notimetocare wrote: »

lathbury wrote: »

Valrien wrote: »

Usually "half-breeds" take on the race of their mother in Elder Scrolls.

yeah so the lorebook says but if that were true bretons wouldnt be a race and all mer would be the same

So while a Breton woman would have a Breton child, if the father was for example altmer, some traits fem the father wild present. Ex: taller than normal, facial features, etc. Bretons are the result of multigenerational interbreeding. Eventually the traits became their own kind of common.
I mean seriously, read the first few lines of the lorebook...

I did its one line ''Generally the offspring bear the racial traits of the mother, though some traces of the father's race may also be present.'' Traces not traits not a whole races affinity with magic. Especially not in the 246 years that the aldmer were ruling before the nords took over. now if 50/50 traits were divided it would make more sense but still be hard to accomplish.
thats hardly generations either at least not for the mer.

Aeradon

In cities across Covenant lands, stories grow of Orcs defiling our women and siring unnatural half breeds!

Gimme them Orc Khaajit half breeds!

Also..



If possible, I wanna play as Azbag and some lamia's offspring. These Orcs, they'll cozy up with whatever that moves.

lathbury

exactly in game lore books seem to differ on the subject and reading the originally quoted one from the healer it seems they admit to not knowing all the facts.'' It is less clear whether the Argonians and Khajiit are interfertile with both humans and elves. Though there have been many reports throughout the Eras of children from these unions, as well as stories of unions with daedra, there have been no well documented offspring.'' ''The reproductive biology of Orcs is at present not well understood,''
so @notimetocare right back at you read the lore book

also any lore buffs out there know if bretons live longer the purer races of men?

Gidorick

Gyudan wrote: »

I wonder what a crossbreed of Khajiit and Argonian would look like.

Pretty much like this... depending on what race the mother is

Snowgoons

they should just remove the racials from the game entirely, and allow fun *** like this.

you should never be forced to play a character you don't even like the look of because he is the only one with bonus fire resistance and fire damage.

another failure ZOS.

Korah_Eaglecry

jkemmery wrote: »

Samadhi wrote: »

Bretons are part Mer and part Human.

True, but they do have distinctive racial passives. But that's really not the same as allowing a cross of any 2 existing races, right? Bretons can't be a half Kajiht - half Argonian, right?

You cant cross breed humans/mer with beastfolk. Humans and Mer on the other hand are a different story. Im not sure how Orc and Human work though since Orcs are Mer but corrupted so.

lathbury

Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »

jkemmery wrote: »

Samadhi wrote: »

Bretons are part Mer and part Human.

True, but they do have distinctive racial passives. But that's really not the same as allowing a cross of any 2 existing races, right? Bretons can't be a half Kajiht - half Argonian, right?

You cant cross breed humans/mer with beastfolk. Humans and Mer on the other hand are a different story. Im not sure how Orc and Human work though since Orcs are Mer but corrupted so.

why not?

AngryNord

Snowgoons wrote: »

they should just remove the racials from the game entirely

Only if they remove Elder Scrolls from the title, as well.

notimetocare

Aeradon wrote: »

In cities across Covenant lands, stories grow of Orcs defiling our women and siring unnatural half breeds!

Gimme them Orc Khaajit half breeds!

Also..



If possible, I wanna play as Azbag and some lamia's offspring. These Orcs, they'll cozy up with whatever that moves.

The book by Sorick is very obviously propaganda. Understand that not all lore books are pure truth. They are realistic and do present bias. Some do that is.

Armann

lathbury wrote: »

also any lore buffs out there know if bretons live longer the purer races of men?

"When Cassynder assumed the throne upon the death of his mother, he was already middle-aged. Only half Elven, he aged like a Breton."

From this book: http://uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Brief_History_of_the_Empire_v_2

lathbury

notimetocare wrote: »

Aeradon wrote: »

In cities across Covenant lands, stories grow of Orcs defiling our women and siring unnatural half breeds!

Gimme them Orc Khaajit half breeds!

Also..



If possible, I wanna play as Azbag and some lamia's offspring. These Orcs, they'll cozy up with whatever that moves.

The book by Sorick is very obviously propaganda. Understand that not all lore books are pure truth. They are realistic and do present bias. Some do that is.

exactly the same could be said of the original one from the imperial healer. while maybe not propagnda per se he may have a personal bias maybe his wife ran off with a nord. also at the very least from reading it they don't seem to have all the facts. or could just be plain wrong we see in game examples of couples like the bosmer woman with a khajiit husband who runs off because he's off his nut on moon sugar.