The Return Of Mannimarco

lunarsyed

I am wondering if mannimarco will return after the release of the cyrodil city, and if the new story line will feature Mannimarco as the new antagonist. Since we had no option to leave him in Coldharbour. Let me know what you guys think .

Tonnopesce

If you play TES Oblivion you will go against the king of worms himself, it was on the mage's guild questline

AngryNord

He is in Daggerfall, too, IIRC

dodgehopper_ESO

lunarsyed wrote: »

I am wondering if mannimarco will return after the release of the cyrodil city, and if the new story line will feature Mannimarco as the new antagonist. Since we had no option to leave him in Coldharbour. Let me know what you guys think .

Actually you had every option to leave him in Coldharbor. Here's the secret: Just leave him. Walk through the door and keep going. You can move on with the quest without him.

lunarsyed

If u guys dunno about Aldmeri Storyline but There was a person not telling who she made a contract with Mehrunes Dagon like Mannimarco and she then contacted Mannimarco to form an alliance but too bad u have to kill her but atleast u get to go to Mehrune Dagon's Oblivion Plane. But just imagine two well known daedric princes forming an alliance, would just make the storyline great.

Storm_knight22

lunarsyed wrote: »

If u guys dunno about Aldmeri Storyline but There was a person not telling who she made a contract with Mehrunes Dagon like Mannimarco and she then contacted Mannimarco to form an alliance but too bad u have to kill her but atleast u get to go to Mehrune Dagon's Oblivion Plane. But just imagine two well known daedric princes forming an alliance, would just make the storyline great.

Fortunately the Daedric prince normally don't work together...

I can only think of a single instance where they did and that was to transform Jyggalag into Sheogorath long long ago....

Enodoc

I doubt we'll be seeing Mannimarco (or anyone from the Main Quest) again any time soon. It would be odd for players who haven't yet finished it to see any of those characters in the Imperial City content.

lunarsyed

well abnur tharn flad back to imperial city witht he amulet of the kings

Enodoc

lunarsyed wrote: »

well abnur tharn flad back to imperial city witht he amulet of the kings

Did he? I thought they just said "he fled", and didn't say where he went. Also, you may want to put that in spoiler tags

Wolfshead

Enodoc wrote: »

I doubt we'll be seeing Mannimarco (or anyone from the Main Quest) again any time soon. It would be odd for players who haven't yet finished it to see any of those characters in the Imperial City content.

Not really if ZoS make expansion we can very well see Mannimarco in main quest story line thing is ZoS can make how many expansion the want base on lore and main npc char alone to ESO as long as the are true to lores i cant see any problem with us see Mannimarco or any other npc char have there on "expansion" main quest in future.

Just look at all 3 factions leader the alone should have alot of storys that can be made in expansions.

Enodoc

Wolfshead wrote: »

Enodoc wrote: »

I doubt we'll be seeing Mannimarco (or anyone from the Main Quest) again any time soon. It would be odd for players who haven't yet finished it to see any of those characters in the Imperial City content.

Not really if ZoS make expansion we can very well see Mannimarco in main quest story line thing is ZoS can make how many expansion the want base on lore and main npc char alone to ESO as long as the are true to lores i cant see any problem with us see Mannimarco or any other npc char have there on "expansion" main quest in future.

Just look at all 3 factions leader the alone should have alot of storys that can be made in expansions.

Yes, but all of those instances of expansions would occur chronologically after the Main Quest, and most likely would require you to have completed the Main Quest content before you can do it. I have no issue with that. Imperial City, by design, should be occurring chronologically before the end of the Main Quest, meaning that characters already introduced are still in the process of their Main Quest events, and should not be appearing.

Wolfshead

Enodoc wrote: »

Wolfshead wrote: »

Enodoc wrote: »

I doubt we'll be seeing Mannimarco (or anyone from the Main Quest) again any time soon. It would be odd for players who haven't yet finished it to see any of those characters in the Imperial City content.

Not really if ZoS make expansion we can very well see Mannimarco in main quest story line thing is ZoS can make how many expansion the want base on lore and main npc char alone to ESO as long as the are true to lores i cant see any problem with us see Mannimarco or any other npc char have there on "expansion" main quest in future.

Just look at all 3 factions leader the alone should have alot of storys that can be made in expansions.

Yes, but all of those instances of expansions would occur chronologically after the Main Quest, and most likely would require you to have completed the Main Quest content before you can do it. I have no issue with that. Imperial City, by design, should be occurring chronologically before the end of the Main Quest, meaning that characters already introduced are still in the process of their Main Quest events, and should not be appearing.

True but then again coldharbour is on other plan of exist which could mean that we can go back and forward in time and it would make more sense then Blizzard explanation how people end up in WoD and with all the portal we have in this game that portal us to different plan while we do quest in game and i honest dont see any problem with expansion tell story about Mannimarco or any other npc char.

lathbury

Enodoc wrote: »

Wolfshead wrote: »

Enodoc wrote: »

I doubt we'll be seeing Mannimarco (or anyone from the Main Quest) again any time soon. It would be odd for players who haven't yet finished it to see any of those characters in the Imperial City content.

Not really if ZoS make expansion we can very well see Mannimarco in main quest story line thing is ZoS can make how many expansion the want base on lore and main npc char alone to ESO as long as the are true to lores i cant see any problem with us see Mannimarco or any other npc char have there on "expansion" main quest in future.

Just look at all 3 factions leader the alone should have alot of storys that can be made in expansions.

Yes, but all of those instances of expansions would occur chronologically after the Main Quest, and most likely would require you to have completed the Main Quest content before you can do it. I have no issue with that. Imperial City, by design, should be occurring chronologically before the end of the Main Quest, meaning that characters already introduced are still in the process of their Main Quest events, and should not be appearing.

you lost me why should IC happen before the events of the main quest?

Vis

It's a pity they don't have an option where you can pause your quest and join the tormentors in whipping him.

lathbury

Vis wrote: »

It's a pity they don't have an option where you can pause your quest and join the tormentors in whipping him.

or just murder him

Messy1

I released him many many times . . .. SO I CAN BEAT HIM INTO SUBMISSION AGAIN!

Enodoc

Wolfshead wrote: »

Enodoc wrote: »

Wolfshead wrote: »

Enodoc wrote: »

I doubt we'll be seeing Mannimarco (or anyone from the Main Quest) again any time soon. It would be odd for players who haven't yet finished it to see any of those characters in the Imperial City content.

Not really if ZoS make expansion we can very well see Mannimarco in main quest story line thing is ZoS can make how many expansion the want base on lore and main npc char alone to ESO as long as the are true to lores i cant see any problem with us see Mannimarco or any other npc char have there on "expansion" main quest in future.

Just look at all 3 factions leader the alone should have alot of storys that can be made in expansions.

Yes, but all of those instances of expansions would occur chronologically after the Main Quest, and most likely would require you to have completed the Main Quest content before you can do it. I have no issue with that. Imperial City, by design, should be occurring chronologically before the end of the Main Quest, meaning that characters already introduced are still in the process of their Main Quest events, and should not be appearing.

True but then again coldharbour is on other plan of exist which could mean that we can go back and forward in time and it would make more sense then Blizzard explanation how people end up in WoD and with all the portal we have in this game that portal us to different plan while we do quest in game and i honest dont see any problem with expansion tell story about Mannimarco or any other npc char.

Linear time was instigated by Akatosh as part of the Convention of Mundus. When Oblivion and Mundus are connected, time flows linearly and consistently between them (or, at least, it is perceived to). It's only when there are no connections between Oblivion and Mundus that Oblivion time can progress at a different rate. Due to the alternate timelines of Cadwell's Almanac, there may be an issue in the meta of linear time, as you can jump between different positions in the timeline, but the individual events themselves still occur in a linear fashion.

Prior to the Level 40 Main Quest, Mannimarco is in Coldharbour trying to determine the location of the Amulet of Kings.

If he escapes Coldharbour after the end of the Main Story, he could conceivably have gone to the Imperial City. However...

The Imperial City is under the influence of a massive Dark Anchor, and therefore the events in Imperial City must be occurring before the end of the Planemeld.

This is because, after the Planemeld has ended, all Dark Anchors have shut down.

Therefore, Mannimarco cannot be there, since before the end of the Planemeld, he is still at his relative point in the Main Quest (as is Abnur Tharn).

RazzPitazz

Enodoc wrote: »

Wolfshead wrote: »

Enodoc wrote: »

Wolfshead wrote: »

Enodoc wrote: »

I doubt we'll be seeing Mannimarco (or anyone from the Main Quest) again any time soon. It would be odd for players who haven't yet finished it to see any of those characters in the Imperial City content.

Not really if ZoS make expansion we can very well see Mannimarco in main quest story line thing is ZoS can make how many expansion the want base on lore and main npc char alone to ESO as long as the are true to lores i cant see any problem with us see Mannimarco or any other npc char have there on "expansion" main quest in future.

Just look at all 3 factions leader the alone should have alot of storys that can be made in expansions.

Yes, but all of those instances of expansions would occur chronologically after the Main Quest, and most likely would require you to have completed the Main Quest content before you can do it. I have no issue with that. Imperial City, by design, should be occurring chronologically before the end of the Main Quest, meaning that characters already introduced are still in the process of their Main Quest events, and should not be appearing.

True but then again coldharbour is on other plan of exist which could mean that we can go back and forward in time and it would make more sense then Blizzard explanation how people end up in WoD and with all the portal we have in this game that portal us to different plan while we do quest in game and i honest dont see any problem with expansion tell story about Mannimarco or any other npc char.

Linear time was instigated by Akatosh as part of the Convention of Mundus. When Oblivion and Mundus are connected, time flows linearly and consistently between them (or, at least, it is perceived to). It's only when there are no connections between Oblivion and Mundus that Oblivion time can progress at a different rate. Due to the alternate timelines of Cadwell's Almanac, there may be an issue in the meta of linear time, as you can jump between different positions in the timeline, but the individual events themselves still occur in a linear fashion.

Prior to the Level 40 Main Quest, Mannimarco is in Coldharbour trying to determine the location of the Amulet of Kings.

If he escapes Coldharbour after the end of the Main Story, he could conceivably have gone to the Imperial City. However...

The Imperial City is under the influence of a massive Dark Anchor, and therefore the events in Imperial City must be occurring before the end of the Planemeld.

This is because, after the Planemeld has ended, all Dark Anchors have shut down.

Therefore, Mannimarco cannot be there, since before the end of the Planemeld, he is still at his relative point in the Main Quest (as is Abnur Tharn).

Technically there is no real issue as time is still being treated in a linear fashion, You are just choosing where the start point is each time; solidifying your final points. Bravo.

Pman85

no option to leave him in Coldharbor?!?

Some one didn't pay attention to the quest. I left his ass right where I found him

(the hints in the quest tracker even said you could leave him to rot)

Enodoc

Pman85 wrote: »

no option to leave him in Coldharbor?!?

Some one didn't pay attention to the quest. I left his ass right where I found him

(the hints in the quest tracker even said you could leave him to rot)

Yes, but...

He likely manages to escape anyway when you defeat Molag Bal.

RazzPitazz

Enodoc wrote: »

Pman85 wrote: »

no option to leave him in Coldharbor?!?

Some one didn't pay attention to the quest. I left his ass right where I found him

(the hints in the quest tracker even said you could leave him to rot)

Yes, but...

He likely manages to escape anyway when you defeat Molag Bal.

Well duh lol. But at least he has time to internally brew and become a proper villain.

Junipus

Is it level 10 or 15/20 you first meet Abnur? Would make more sense to have his daughter there as the main antagonist, or the elder council. However, I suspect the depth of the quest line in a PvP zone would be very limited

RazzPitazz

Wolfshead wrote: »

Enodoc wrote: »

Wolfshead wrote: »

Enodoc wrote: »

I doubt we'll be seeing Mannimarco (or anyone from the Main Quest) again any time soon. It would be odd for players who haven't yet finished it to see any of those characters in the Imperial City content.

Not really if ZoS make expansion we can very well see Mannimarco in main quest story line thing is ZoS can make how many expansion the want base on lore and main npc char alone to ESO as long as the are true to lores i cant see any problem with us see Mannimarco or any other npc char have there on "expansion" main quest in future.

Just look at all 3 factions leader the alone should have alot of storys that can be made in expansions.

Yes, but all of those instances of expansions would occur chronologically after the Main Quest, and most likely would require you to have completed the Main Quest content before you can do it. I have no issue with that. Imperial City, by design, should be occurring chronologically before the end of the Main Quest, meaning that characters already introduced are still in the process of their Main Quest events, and should not be appearing.

True but then again coldharbour is on other plan of exist which could mean that we can go back and forward in time and it would make more sense then Blizzard explanation how people end up in WoD and with all the portal we have in this game that portal us to different plan while we do quest in game and i honest dont see any problem with expansion tell story about Mannimarco or any other npc char.

Well they can't use anyone other than Abnur from your entourage for obvious reasons. Any Solid story expansions involving main characters will be limited. Personally, Abnur Tharn would be interesting to find out.

AngryNord

dap_robertb16_ESO wrote: »

Is it level 10 or 15/20 you first meet Abnur? Would make more sense to have his daughter there as the main antagonist, or the elder council. However, I suspect the depth of the quest line in a PvP zone would be very limited

Don't think it's until level 20, and then you free him.

Pman85

Enodoc wrote: »

Pman85 wrote: »

no option to leave him in Coldharbor?!?

Some one didn't pay attention to the quest. I left his ass right where I found him

(the hints in the quest tracker even said you could leave him to rot)

Yes, but...

He likely manages to escape anyway when you defeat Molag Bal.

this might be true, but if i remember correctly, the chatting between the 5 at that time said (i think its Sai here) saying if we leave him he will suffer for an eternity... or something along those lines.

Enodoc

dap_robertb16_ESO wrote: »

Is it level 10 or 15/20 you first meet Abnur? Would make more sense to have his daughter there as the main antagonist, or the elder council. However, I suspect the depth of the quest line in a PvP zone would be very limited

You first meet him at 15 in that projection, then at 20 you rescue him, and at 25 you go on a quest with him.

Mr_Durva

Should add spoiler warning in the thread topic

Pallmor

I hope he comes back. I miss his dreamy eyes soooooo much.

theroyalestpythonnub18_ESO

During the Quakecon presentation, Molag Bal's anchor over the Imperial City was referred to as his "last ditch effort" to take over Tamriel. I believe the events of IC are supposed to be happening after the main quest.

GreySix

Mannimarco theme song

lunarsyed

i love the costume of the torturers in the pic with a whip.