Where are the girls?

Reverb

The girls are RPing and opening threads asking for unicorn mounts and pretty dress costumes (kidding, sort of).

Chaos0720

NotSo wrote: »

I think a lot of it has to do with ts groups being able to ban people. If you could put a lock on anybody's voice on console that also muted them from everyone else forever, people would think before talking.

Just like irl. You could get your teeth kicked in if you offend the right person.

While this is true... much like the way everything else is set up around here.. they may get the satisfaction of kicking your teeth in, but in the end, they get a slap on the hand and nothing happens to or for you. Unless you sued for medical expenses. But then your putting effort in.

So at the end of the day, you have your teeth kicked in. The person that did it get's told that they're a bad boy/girl. And business continues as normal.

Grunim

Rosveen wrote: »

MaximusDargus wrote: »

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I suppose we are up to 1365428 or so times now, but who's counting?

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Chaos0720

Grunim wrote: »

Rosveen wrote: »

MaximusDargus wrote: »

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I suppose we are up to 1365428 or so times now, but who's counting?

Ooh. Every game should have gender neutral characters. IDEA. Remove the races from the game and add different colored sack boys. And for xbox.. Idk I would need someone's help because I think LBP is sony exclusive.

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Vorpal_Spork

babygirl7883 wrote: »

I'm looking for other girls to play with, maybe even start an all chick guild, or join one. I'm in Daggerfall covenant, playing on xbox one NA server.

That's pretty sexist.

Reverb wrote: »

The girls are RPing and opening threads asking for unicorn mounts and pretty dress costumes (kidding, sort of).

I actually did see someone ask for a unicorn mount yesterday.

Reverb wrote: »

Ooh. Every game should have gender neutral characters. IDEA. Remove the races from the game and add different colored sack boys. And for xbox.. Idk I would need someone's help because I think LBP is sony exclusive.

We have those. They're called altmer. :P

leighdelo

babygirl7883 wrote: »

I'm looking for other girls to play with, maybe even start an all chick guild, or join one. I'm in Daggerfall covenant, playing on xbox one NA server.

I'm here! I'm here! But I'm a PS4 player and the Aldmeri Dominion. I tried the same thing in the Guild forums and got nothing. >.<

Rinmaethodain

Girls only guild? Thats sexist! Where is the equality? Or maybe you are one of those feminist kind of girls : P

Well i guess that all girl guilds will end when we will get guild halls and someone will have to bring in all the furniture : P

Rosveen

Vorpal_Spork wrote: »

babygirl7883 wrote: »

I'm looking for other girls to play with, maybe even start an all chick guild, or join one. I'm in Daggerfall covenant, playing on xbox one NA server.

That's pretty sexist.

You're probably joking, but just in case... Guys freaking out when they hear a girl in voice chat are pretty sexist and creepy. There's nothing wrong with protecting yourself from this kind of behavior.

leighdelo

I wanted to perform an experiment in a populated area where I just say 1 word over my mic. How many friend requests will I get? (I really don't want to be friends with you unless we are working quests legitimately)

Noomfy-Mop

Tandor wrote: »

Oh dear, it reminds me of the time Mrs Tandor - who is not very computer savvy - wanted to find out where the local Virgin DvD store was, and said "No problem, I'll google "virgin"" !

Good luck!

Lol..
Wow. She must have gotten a rude shock XP

Phinix1

MaximusDargus wrote: »

Girls only guild? Thats sexist! Where is the equality?

• Guy posts "looking to join/start all broseph guild!"
• Eaten by feminists frost trolls.

Such is life.

Grunim

Chaos0720 wrote: »

Grunim wrote: »

Rosveen wrote: »

MaximusDargus wrote: »

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I suppose we are up to 1365428 or so times now, but who's counting?

Ooh. Every game should have gender neutral characters. IDEA. Remove the races from the game and add different colored sack boys. And for xbox.. Idk I would need someone's help because I think LBP is sony exclusive.

Many years ago I played some MUDs that had gender neutral characters and it was fun to play them for some variety. So asking for gender neutral character options isn't as farfetched as one might think, though I don't think it's part of The Elder Scrolls lore so it wouldn't happen here. Or has there been a gender neutral precedent for The Elder Scrolls in a prior game?

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Rosveen

AlienDiplomat wrote: »

MaximusDargus wrote: »

Girls only guild? Thats sexist! Where is the equality?

• Guy posts "looking to join/start all broseph guild!"
• Eaten by feminists frost trolls.

Such is life.

There's a dads' guild that doesn't accept moms and they haven't been eaten yet. Have some faith in the community!

Chaos0720

Rosveen wrote: »

Vorpal_Spork wrote: »

babygirl7883 wrote: »

I'm looking for other girls to play with, maybe even start an all chick guild, or join one. I'm in Daggerfall covenant, playing on xbox one NA server.

That's pretty sexist.

You're probably joking, but just in case... Guys freaking out when they hear a girl in voice chat are pretty sexist and creepy. There's nothing wrong with protecting yourself from this kind of behavior.

Agreed. But let's be serious. If someone (and I'm sure they have) made a guys only guild, there would be girls reporting that person for discrimination, which by the way is against the CoC and ToS.

I myself personally don't get why guys are dumb on console. And I have no problem with gender specific guilds, as long as it's treated equally by Zenimax. If girls only guilds can exists, then so should guys only. I just want equality da** it.

Rinmaethodain

I guess in a world full of swords, daggers and axes, where almost everyone is trained in some of fight arts or magic, one could end as gender neutral being in a precedent of cheating on his SO

Vlor

I don't know if its been mentioned, but there is an all girls guild since release -
http://marasmoxies.guildlaunch.com/

EDIT: Oh wait they are pc sorry xD

Noomfy-Mop

I don't know if it's just me but I find people barely use mics anyway.
Not even when your in a group with them.
I'll join a group and be all "g'day all. What's going on and what are we up to today".
9.9 times out of 10 I'm met with complete silence.
I've found that largely to be the case when playing with others on console. I don't know if console owners are scared of their mic or what but most of them are definately not using them.

Phinix1

Noomfy-Mop wrote: »

I don't know if it's just me but I find people barely use mics anyway.
Not even when your in a group with them.
I'll join a group and be all "g'day all. What's going on and what are we up to today".
9.9 times out of 10 I'm met with complete silence.
I've found that largely to be the case when playing with others on console. I don't know if console owners are scared of their mic or what but most of them are definately not using them.

I think it is the simple fact that real voice communication is a TERRIBLE medium in ROLE PLAYING games.

It completely destroys immersion and the "mood" of the environment.

For me at least.

I posted during PC beta a suggestion to create an in-game voice synth for role play, but I guess ZOS thought that licensing Naturally Speaking was too spendy?

Vorpal_Spork

Rosveen wrote: »

Vorpal_Spork wrote: »

babygirl7883 wrote: »

I'm looking for other girls to play with, maybe even start an all chick guild, or join one. I'm in Daggerfall covenant, playing on xbox one NA server.

That's pretty sexist.

You're probably joking, but just in case... Guys freaking out when they hear a girl in voice chat are pretty sexist and creepy. There's nothing wrong with protecting yourself from this kind of behavior.

I'm not joking. If there was a male only guild or a white only guild or a straight only guild everyone would flip out so why is this okay?

babygirl7883 wrote: »

I agree that would be better, but since it can't be that way and I'm tired of grown men turning into 10 year old boys when they hear my voice, I am going this route.

It has nothing to do with your voice. It's the anonymity of the internet. Everyone has to deal with people being ***. I can't count how many times I've had death threats and comments about my mom's sex life and their role in it just because someone was losing or some other trivial reason. My first day in ESO it sounded like someone was rolling their mic down the stairs so I told them to mute before the whole town goes deaf. Their response was "[snip] you! How's this sound? [snip] you! [snip] you! [snip] you! [snip] you! [snip] you!" ad nauseum until I turned off chat. Male streamers have been swatted just because of their opinions. Etcetera.

Just join a guild and try to pretend nonmembers don't exist. That's the best way to avoid the idiots. And no I don't mean one of those zerg guilds spamming you with invites every time you go to town. Those are glorified PUGs. I mean real guilds with actual standards and an application process. I've never seen a woman in one of my guilds be treated badly. In the unlikely event that they were, whoever did it would be kicked out immediately. There's no reason to go all female supremacist, assume all men are creepy perverts and start segregating.

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Grunim

Vlor wrote: »

I don't know if its been mentioned, but there is an all girls guild since release -
http://marasmoxies.guildlaunch.com/

And this guild was begun by some of the Mara tester ladies who were a focus group that ZOS invited to the closed beta two years ago. It was very cool that ZOS had a focus group of ladies to get our perspective on this game. Very innovative of them!

Though I thought the guild opened up to include male family members after Launch? I'm not sure anymore because I left the guild to make more space for Trading guilds and PvP focused guilds, though I do keep in touch still with some Maras.

Chaos0720

I mean... Not to be a jerk but let's be honest. If a guy would have posted this requesting a guild. Someone would have told them to go post in the megathread and report them, resulting in the thread being closed. It's happened before.

Funny how it's a post seeking a girls only guild and it's still open.

Like I said. I'm not trying to be a ***, but there's a double standard on both ends. (I guess that makes 4 standards... but I digress.)


And just to cover my ass, I'm not blaming any person in particular, I'm just saying that this is how society is. You can't escape society. Not even in a video game that has an online multiplayer aspect.

Vlor

Grunim wrote: »

Vlor wrote: »

I don't know if its been mentioned, but there is an all girls guild since release -
http://marasmoxies.guildlaunch.com/

And this guild was begun by some of the Mara tester ladies who were a focus group that ZOS invited to the closed beta two years ago. It was very cool that ZOS had a focus group of ladies to get our perspective on this game. Very innovative of them!

Though I thought the guild opened up to include male family members after Launch? I'm not sure anymore because I left the guild to make more space for Trading guilds and PvP focused guilds, though I do keep in touch still with some Maras.

Yes, I was in it during the beta.. they are all very cool ladies! I didn't join in release though, so I didn't hear they are accepting male members. After looking at their webpage/facebook now, I am very glad to see it still active. I miss beta days.

Grunim

Chaos0720 wrote: »

I mean... Not to be a jerk but let's be honest. If a guy would have posted this requesting a guild. Someone would have told them to go post in the megathread and report them, resulting in the thread being closed. It's happened before.

Funny how it's a post seeking a girls only guild and it's still open.

Like I said. I'm not trying to be a ***, but there's a double standard on both ends. (I guess that makes 4 standards... but I digress.)


And just to cover my ass, I'm not blaming any person in particular, I'm just saying that this is how society is. You can't escape society. Not even in a video game that has an online multiplayer aspect.

This thread quickly moved beyond a player seeking a woman's only guild and moved into a discussion of why someone may be interested in such a thing. That's why I believe this thread has not been moved. It's had some interesting discussion and I'd be thrilled if a certain Dev known for lurking delurked here.

Danikat

I've been pretty open about being female, both in-game and on the forum and I've not had any issues. Maybe it is console-specific?

Grunim wrote: »

Chaos0720 wrote: »

Grunim wrote: »

Rosveen wrote: »

MaximusDargus wrote: »

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I suppose we are up to 1365428 or so times now, but who's counting?

Ooh. Every game should have gender neutral characters. IDEA. Remove the races from the game and add different colored sack boys. And for xbox.. Idk I would need someone's help because I think LBP is sony exclusive.

Many years ago I played some MUDs that had gender neutral characters and it was fun to play them for some variety. So asking for gender neutral character options isn't as farfetched as one might think, though I don't think it's part of The Elder Scrolls lore so it wouldn't happen here. Or has there been a gender neutral precedent for The Elder Scrolls in a prior game?

Genderless RP characters are definitely possible. A few years ago I used to do what we called 'freeform RP' on a forum - aside from a few basic rules (like you couldn't be invincible) you could be anyone or anything. We'd have storylines where the god of insanity worked alongside a pikachu with his own space station and a tree sprite from another dimension. There were quite a few gender neutral, or completely genderless characters. My personal favourite was a guy who RP'd a blob of sentient goo, made for a surprisingly interesting character and some challenging scenes.

I'm sure I've also played at least 1 RPG where the genders you could choose depended on your race and at least 1 race was genderless, but it was years ago and I can't remember the name. A quick google search tells me it does happen in some MMOs too. But you're right that it has to be worked into the lore and I don't think that's happened with TES (yet).

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Chaos0720

Danikat wrote: »

I've been pretty open about being female, both in-game and on the forum and I've not had any issues. Maybe it is console-specific?

Grunim wrote: »

Chaos0720 wrote: »

Grunim wrote: »

Rosveen wrote: »

MaximusDargus wrote: »

[snip]

[snip]

I suppose we are up to 1365428 or so times now, but who's counting?

Ooh. Every game should have gender neutral characters. IDEA. Remove the races from the game and add different colored sack boys. And for xbox.. Idk I would need someone's help because I think LBP is sony exclusive.

Many years ago I played some MUDs that had gender neutral characters and it was fun to play them for some variety. So asking for gender neutral character options isn't as farfetched as one might think, though I don't think it's part of The Elder Scrolls lore so it wouldn't happen here. Or has there been a gender neutral precedent for The Elder Scrolls in a prior game?

Genderless RP characters are definitely possible. A few years ago I used to do what we called 'freeform RP' on a forum - aside from a few basic rules (like you couldn't be invincible) you could be anyone or anything. We'd have storylines where the god of insanity worked alongside a pikachu with his own space station and a tree sprite from another dimension. There were quite a few gender neutral, or completely genderless characters. My personal favourite was a guy who RP'd a blob of sentient goo, made for a surprisingly interesting character and some challenging scenes.

I'm sure I've also played at least 1 RPG where the genders you could choose depended on your race and at least 1 race was genderless, but it was years ago and I can't remember the name. A quick google search tells me it does happen in some MMOs too. But you're right that it has to be worked into the lore and I don't think that's happened with TES (yet).

Yes but Zenimax and or Bethesda have a story that they can add whatever they want. First, ESO is set in the past (if I remember correctly 1000 years, i could be wrong though). Second, Dragon Breaks (I think that's what they're called).

Now granted, using a dragon break to explain why the gender neutral races or characters didn't show up later in the chronology will probably lead to some Zenimax bashing if the story doesn't provide a nondiscriminatory reason.. but it most definitely is doable.

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bosmern_ESO

Oh consoles....

Chaos0720

bosmern_ESO wrote: »

Oh consoles....

Yup. Lol. Makes sense now right?

Rosveen

AlienDiplomat wrote: »

Noomfy-Mop wrote: »

I don't know if it's just me but I find people barely use mics anyway.
Not even when your in a group with them.
I'll join a group and be all "g'day all. What's going on and what are we up to today".
9.9 times out of 10 I'm met with complete silence.
I've found that largely to be the case when playing with others on console. I don't know if console owners are scared of their mic or what but most of them are definately not using them.

I think it is the simple fact that real voice communication is a TERRIBLE medium in ROLE PLAYING games.

It completely destroys immersion and the "mood" of the environment.

For me at least.

I posted during PC beta a suggestion to create an in-game voice synth for role play, but I guess ZOS thought that licensing Naturally Speaking was too spendy?

It's funny because the original roleplaying games were played by a bunch of people sitting around a table, talking face to face. How far we've come...

Phinix1

babygirl7883 wrote: »

I'm looking for other girls to play with, maybe even start an all chick guild, or join one. I'm in Daggerfall covenant, playing on xbox one NA server.

Just FYI, there are specific forums for guild recruitment on the various systems. Here's yours:

Xbone NA Guild Recruitment

/heavybreathing

Chaos0720

AlienDiplomat wrote: »

babygirl7883 wrote: »

I'm looking for other girls to play with, maybe even start an all chick guild, or join one. I'm in Daggerfall covenant, playing on xbox one NA server.

Just FYI, there are specific forums for guild recruitment on the various systems. Here's yours:

Xbone NA Guild Recruitment

/heavybreathing

63 posts later and you had to be that guy/girl.... lol