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so what minor, meaningless, unimportant things do YOU expect in Patch 2.0.12

Hypertionb14_ESO
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Me personally....

im honestly at a loss....

there is probably some BS thing they will change that has literally no impact on gameplay... but apart from looking in the support section... i dont think there is anything even remotely known in general.

probably something that makes the stuff for the new XP pots more rare... probably in response to some imaginary "exploit" that is cutting into the profits of the crown store option.... like a reduction in the mat refine rate...

there is probably a quest with a NPC that doesnt work right still.. i honestly say that should be fixed by now but considering the history of TES, well i expect to be finding bugs with launch material a year from now.

i think tho... i dont really care what they do in this little patch.... because i know it wont have any effect on the state of ESO ultimately.. Hate to say it... but they have gone way too long without any major looks...
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  • NadiusMaximus
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    Crown store items
    Use of the word soon™ as an excuse for things not being fixed
    At least two bugs introduced by the fixes they do make
    Above all, the total lack of anything associated with pvp, except nerfs or something like " stare at sun for 30min to recieve 10sec buff to fart damage."
  • NadiusMaximus
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    Lol fart damage!
    Supposed to say fall damage. Auto correct giggles.
  • PBpsy
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    they will fix the: Group lead bug, the get on horse bug ,infinite screens of awesome art, make more armor more decent, fix lag ,in pvp, balance nirn. ... :)
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  • The_Sadist
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    Not expecting much given my extremely low expectations of the game at this point, but bug fixes and fixing in general is always something I'm big on.
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  • Akavir_Sentinel
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    2.0.12 will change two NPC conversations, and the patch size will be around 37 GB.....
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  • Knootewoot
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    OVERVIEW
    The Elder Scrolls Online: Tamriel Unlimited v2.0.12 is an incremental patch that fixes no issues with quests, gameplay, and also does not adjusts and UI related problems. The size of this patch is approximately 10.0 GB for English and French, and just under 20.0GB for German since we need to use bigger fonts as they always shout in Germany.

    FIXES & IMPROVEMENTS
    Combat & Gameplay
    General •Heavy attack has been removed from gameplay. Instead you can buy a 1 hour buff from Crown store which allows you to perform a Heavy Attack.

    Exploration & Itemization
    General •We applied several invisible walls so players cannot explore freely. A temporarily "exploration" buff will remove these invisible walls. Available only in the Crown store

    Quests & Zones
    Speech •We removed the speech from the game from any quest to reduce lag in Cyrodiil.

    Glenumbra •Added nothing.

    Crown store
    Vanity pets •Added the rainbow Whale. This little grey whale will follow you around farting rainbows
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  • Leandor
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    Seriously:

    General News
    • Approximately 20'000 accounts have been permanently banned for exploit abusing and/or cheating by means of third party tools.
    Alliance War
    • Travel to Player functionality has been disabled for Cyrodiil
    • Cleanse had its healing functionality removed. In general, all purge morphs have their cast cost doubled.
    • Proximity Detonation has been removed. It has been replaced with a stamina morph of inevitable detonation.
    Game Mechanics
    • Sets that made Stamina builds more powerful than intended have been reworked
    • Smart healing for multi target heals has been changed to purely proximity based healing. Only single target heals have the smart healing function.
    • Damage mitigation has been reworked. It is no longer possible to reduce incoming damage to less than 5% of base value by blocking.
    That would be a good starting point.
  • Molsondry
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    I see....

    A 4.6 gb patch for 2 bug fixes that break 10 other things and a quest fix ! TY zeni
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  • istateres
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    Whats the Over/Under for 2.0. patches? This will be 12 which is about 5 more that I expected. Will we reach 15? 20? Make your predictions now!
  • Hypertionb14_ESO
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    istateres wrote: »
    Whats the Over/Under for 2.0. patches? This will be 12 which is about 5 more that I expected. Will we reach 15? 20? Make your predictions now!

    for a while there.... 2 months was the longest between major patches... and some of the biggest minor patch numbers were due to every week patching save a few on the last few weeks of PTS testing..

    so really we are well over double the previous record.
    Leandor wrote: »
    Seriously:

    General News
    • Approximately 20'000 accounts have been permanently banned for exploit abusing and/or cheating by means of third party tools.
    Alliance War
    • Travel to Player functionality has been disabled for Cyrodiil
    • Cleanse had its healing functionality removed. In general, all purge morphs have their cast cost doubled.
    • Proximity Detonation has been removed. It has been replaced with a stamina morph of inevitable detonation.
    Game Mechanics
    • Sets that made Stamina builds more powerful than intended have been reworked
    • Smart healing for multi target heals has been changed to purely proximity based healing. Only single target heals have the smart healing function.
    • Damage mitigation has been reworked. It is no longer possible to reduce incoming damage to less than 5% of base value by blocking.
    That would be a good starting point.

    maybe in the next major patch will all of this stuff be implemented.. but apart from TTP being disabled in Cyro which could honestly make one of these minor patches, there is little to no change for any real balance changes etc in a non major version update.
    Knootewoot wrote: »
    OVERVIEW
    The Elder Scrolls Online: Tamriel Unlimited v2.0.12 is an incremental patch that fixes no issues with quests, gameplay, and also does not adjusts and UI related problems. The size of this patch is approximately 10.0 GB for English and French, and just under 20.0GB for German since we need to use bigger fonts as they always shout in Germany.

    FIXES & IMPROVEMENTS
    Combat & Gameplay
    General •Heavy attack has been removed from gameplay. Instead you can buy a 1 hour buff from Crown store which allows you to perform a Heavy Attack.

    Exploration & Itemization
    General •We applied several invisible walls so players cannot explore freely. A temporarily "exploration" buff will remove these invisible walls. Available only in the Crown store

    Quests & Zones
    Speech •We removed the speech from the game from any quest to reduce lag in Cyrodiil.

    Glenumbra •Added nothing.

    Crown store
    Vanity pets •Added the rainbow Whale. This little grey whale will follow you around farting rainbows

    highlighted for truth.
    Edited by Hypertionb14_ESO on June 29, 2015 10:26AM
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    • Addition of new Outfits
    • Addition of some new high level sets
    • Removal of TTP
    • Some net code adjustments to Cyrodiil
    • A few tweeks (buffs and nerfs) on 6 different skills mainly targeting DK's and NB's
    • Possible adjustment to a Mundus stone to aid Stamina more
    • Inclusion of New Race Motif
    • 4-6 new images to be data-mined/leaked showing Imperial City
    • Fixed annoying goat in Eastmarch that kept walking in circles
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    There's a few things that I would like to see fixed that may be considered minor and meaningless:
    • Grahtwood: Fixed the Fighters Guild in Haven so you can actually enter it after saving the town.
    • Rivenspire: Corrected the Group Boss location Valeguard Tower so that it actually says Valeguard instead of Valewatch.
    • Glenumbra: Reinstated Babineaux Redain as a quest giver for Turning of the Trees, so the storyline continues to flow after Bloodthorn Assassins is completed.
    • Cyrodiil: Fixed the missing map icons for Lake Mist Ruins and Shurgak Clan Estate.
    • Malabal Tor: Fixed "Baandari Trading Post Wayshrine" having different names in different contexts. They now all correctly use the same name.
    • Reaper's March: Fixed the uncompleted POI icon for Greenhill. It now correctly uses a Town icon instead of a Fort icon.
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    Not sure if meant June bc posted in june or bc fixes incoming in june.

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  • Sithisvoid
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    Ya there's Totally a quest with a broken NPC. The prisoner of Jathsogur
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    Alcast wrote: »
    Not sure if meant June bc posted in june or bc fixes incoming in june.

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    Posted in June. Fixes coming Soon™. More details in July.
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  • RDMyers65b14_ESO
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    I would like grouping fixed. I can't group with either friends or guild mates for the last several days. I am not the only one who is having the issue and I know of four or five bug reports have gone in.
  • TheEmoVampire
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    further decrease the drop rate of the Ambrosia recipe frags from 0.1% to 0.0% so that every single low player will have to keep buying the scrolls, so that zos can make more money. Here is an idea put the recipe in the crown store did ya ever think of that, I'd buy it in a heart beat, because i don't have luck (luck the few hundreds of players don't) and 5 million gold to buy the frags, seriously they are unbelievably expensive the drop needs to increase. the whole point of an xp booster is for lower toons to lv up and catch up, they can't do that if they don't have 5 million gold, and last i checked those toons who start out out lv 1 on a first toons defiantly don't.


  • AuldWolf
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    Is this really necessary? It's so bitter. Other than base addiction, I can't understand why one would play a game if it's no longer enjoyable. I plan on playing ESO until I'm done with the Aldmeri Dominion/Main storyline and its side stories and then stopping, mostly because I'm just invested in the writing and how wonderful it is. I particularly liked that whomever the team writing the Dominion are were bold enough and had fortitude enough to take a jab at places like the Judge Rotenberg Centre with the Thalmor college. Impressive stuff.

    I don't know if it's because I'm an introvert, but if I'm not enjoying something, I stop. I have no cyclical dopamine error which forces me to continue playing something even when I'm not enjoying it, after all. I think it just makes things unnecessarily toxic. So, again, is this really necessary? It's just so immature, petty, spiteful, and bitter.

    I can understand about complaining about a change, and campaigning against it, but this isn't that. This is a bunch of kids in a treehouse whining about how horrible their parents are and struggling with their ennui and angst.
    Edited by AuldWolf on June 29, 2015 12:26PM
  • LrdRahvin
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    Lol fart damage!
    Supposed to say fall damage. Auto correct giggles.

    No, given the way the game is run, you probably had it right the first time.

    B)
  • Septimus_Magna
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    Leandor wrote: »
    Seriously:

    General News
    • Approximately 20'000 accounts have been permanently banned for exploit abusing and/or cheating by means of third party tools.
    Alliance War
    • Travel to Player functionality has been disabled for Cyrodiil
    • Cleanse had its healing functionality removed. In general, all purge morphs have their cast cost doubled.
    • Proximity Detonation has been removed. It has been replaced with a stamina morph of inevitable detonation.
    Game Mechanics
    • Sets that made Stamina builds more powerful than intended have been reworked
    • Smart healing for multi target heals has been changed to purely proximity based healing. Only single target heals have the smart healing function.
    • Damage mitigation has been reworked. It is no longer possible to reduce incoming damage to less than 5% of base value by blocking.
    That would be a good starting point.

    The 5-6k Steel Tornadoes arent hitting hard enough? You want to add a stamina morph of Magicka Detonation? Spell resist is easy to get with nirn but its hard to get decent armor rating if you dont wear full medium or 5 heavy armor. I dont think this would be good for the balance of the game.

    Cleanse is really expensive to cast, about 4700 magicka for builds with 5 LA pieces. This should be enough to prevent players from spamming it.
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  • Robbmrp
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    Here are the things I expect from this patch....


    1- Lag in PVE and PVP WILL continue.....
    2- Some pointless item will be added to the Crown Store.....
    3- 90% of the Bugs they tried to fix will still be in the game for months down the road.....
    4- Packet Pushers will still have their accounts when they clearly should be banned....(not necessarily patch related but needs to be addressed)
    5- At least 2 hours before we see any notes what so ever.....
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  • madchuska83
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    Lol fart damage!
    Supposed to say fall damage. Auto correct giggles.

    I like fart damage better anyway.
  • Scamandros
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    respawn times of goats in alik'r desert have been adjusted slightly so their cuteness can be enjoyed by the community more regularly. Expect ~2GB
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    Felt unnatural to me and very clumsy to me

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    That Mighty Lion
    Is were I belong.

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    You have met
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    I know this was wrong
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    that is very wise and so true

    Mighty Eagle
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    It is
    My Enemy, Enemy's, Enemy's
    Is my friend

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    No one else but you
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  • Preyfar
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    I expect 2.0.12 to do something ridiculously awesome, and offer the ability to unlock in-game concept art and design sketches tied into achievement progress.

    ...

    I know it's not going to happen, but I love going through concept and design art (even if it's just artistic napkin doodles). So much art and creative work goes into a design I just want to eat it all up.
  • Leandor
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    The 5-6k Steel Tornadoes arent hitting hard enough? You want to add a stamina morph of Magicka Detonation? Spell resist is easy to get with nirn but its hard to get decent armor rating if you dont wear full medium or 5 heavy armor. I dont think this would be good for the balance of the game.

    Cleanse is really expensive to cast, about 4700 magicka for builds with 5 LA pieces. This should be enough to prevent players from spamming it.
    I clearly wrote that in a misunderstandable way, sorry for that.

    I want a magicka detonation that scales with stamina and weapon damage but causes magic damage (similar to nightblades stamina based class abilities). Also the scaling needs to be different so that maximum magicka damage build and maximum stamina damage built do the same damage. I would also go for any other idea than proximity detonation in its current implementation.

    I have stated multiple times in different threads that I think tweaking AoE is necessary and that steel tornado is more powerful than the magicka equivalents available currently.

    Cleanse is still to cheap and especially efficient purge is too cheap. As a stamina build, I should not be able to cast it more than once. It needs to be where cleanse is now. If you run a steel tornado zerg, you cannot spam purge. If you want purge available, get in more magicka builds. Min/maxing.
  • paulsimonps
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    Leandor wrote: »
    Damage mitigation has been reworked. It is no longer possible to reduce incoming damage to less than 5% of base value by blocking.

    Exactly where have you seen ppl do that in pvp or even pve? The only way you could get that high is if you used all possible dmg mitigation spells at the same time which is impossible for one single person to do. You would need Full armor/spell resist, absorb magic, footman set, deep slash, ring of preservation, veil of blades and nova while blocking to get to 95% dmg mitigation. And since two of them are ultimates and ring of preservation costs a *** ton of stamina there is no way you could do it without help and even then it could not last for more than 10sec. I actually did some dmg mitigation testing with a load of data about it. forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/187110/dmg-mitigation-for-tanks
    Edited by paulsimonps on June 29, 2015 2:24PM
  • Giraffon
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    * Glowbugs will now only glow at night.
    * If sitting on a horse idle near a tree, your horse now has a 50% chance of snacking on a tree branch
    * You will now occasionally swat at bugs while fishing
    * Argonians will now shed their skins weekly during which time they will appear pale and sickly
    * Khajits will receive less for used armor at merchants due to shedding damage
    * Certain NPCs will sneeze frequently when in the presence of Khajits and/or cat pets/mounts
    * Fishing poles can now be dyed

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