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Poison injection and Lethal arrow

RAM2191
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do they both apply apply separate DoTs or do they just renew eachother? cause I chose Poison injection and now just wondering whether to take Focused aim or Lethal arrow. Id prefer lethal arrow if it applies a 2nd poison DoT for more damage
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  • Kobaal
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    That's a great question. I would like to know as well. I use Focused aim for the increased range.
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  • MCMancub
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    I don't know if they do or not, but I've always used Focused Aim in the assumption they don't. I like the increased range.
  • RollDodger
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    they applied different poison debuffs

    if you install any of combat addons you will see
  • BuggeX
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    RollDodger wrote: »
    they applied different poison debuffs

    if you install any of combat addons you will see

    Addons doesnt are 100% right
    They dont see if a target is affected by a debuff, they just know if you have casted on
    Edited by BuggeX on June 24, 2015 3:34PM
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  • AlnilamE
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    I prefer Lethal Arrow because of self-healing mobs.
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  • Mitchblue
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    I used Focused Aim at one time but Lethal Arrow is pretty good. They're both excellent Morph's.
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  • RollDodger
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    BuggeX wrote: »
    RollDodger wrote: »
    they applied different poison debuffs

    if you install any of combat addons you will see

    Addons doesnt are 100% right
    They dont see if a target is affected by a debuff, they just know if you have casted on

    im telling about combat logs and floating damage text
    you can see the damage from different sources
    and in this case addons 100% right
    because api allowed this
  • Mitchblue
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    RollDodger wrote: »
    BuggeX wrote: »
    RollDodger wrote: »
    they applied different poison debuffs

    if you install any of combat addons you will see

    Addons doesnt are 100% right
    They dont see if a target is affected by a debuff, they just know if you have casted on

    im telling about combat logs and floating damage text
    you can see the damage from different sources
    and in this case addons 100% right
    because api allowed this

    Man I need to get that, oh right PS4. Nevermind.
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  • RAM2191
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    ok So looks like Im taking lethal arrow for the time being then :) I liked the increased range for focused aim but I cant turn down double poison right now...

    Thanks guys!
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  • Akavir_Sentinel
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    Both of those skills, when used with a legendary VR14 Dominion's Bow (1000 unresistible damage)....quite nasty.
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  • danovic
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    I use snipe and poison injection on bar its a double dot. The 5 bow skills work together they stack and work well together no point in using anything else really. Take out the healer with snipe and a quick poison injection then lock the hole group down with arrow spray and volley them to death if anything gets out of volley knock them back with the scatter shot skill. can lockdown and kill hole dungeon groups easily. weave light attack with poison injection and arrow spray for massive damage.
    Edited by danovic on June 25, 2015 12:36AM
  • RollDodger
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    remember - dot from lethal arrow bugged
    it applied only if you shoot from 28m or closer
    Edited by RollDodger on June 25, 2015 7:55AM
  • Spottswoode
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    Poison injection adds a dot. Lethal arrow inflicts the poisoned status. Any poison attack has a chance of Inflicting the poisoned status but Lethal arrow is guaranteed.
    Edited by Spottswoode on June 25, 2015 8:00AM
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  • RollDodger
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    Poison injection adds a dot. Lethal arrow inflicts the poisoned status. Any poison attack has a chance of Inflicting the poisoned status but Lethal arrow is guaranteed.

    its the same
    dot+dot
  • Tankqull
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    RollDodger wrote: »
    Poison injection adds a dot. Lethal arrow inflicts the poisoned status. Any poison attack has a chance of Inflicting the poisoned status but Lethal arrow is guaranteed.

    its the same
    dot+dot

    lethal arrow does not apply a dot just a (poison based) heal debuff.
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  • RollDodger
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    lol
    rtfm
    lethal arrow applied a dot if you shoot from 28m or closer


    BsW6iP5.jpg
    Edited by RollDodger on June 25, 2015 8:18AM
  • Morvul
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    RollDodger wrote: »
    lol
    rtfm
    lethal arrow applied a dot if you shoot from 28m or closer


    BsW6iP5.jpg

    that "poisoned" DoT is applied by any source of poison damage. Just like the "burning" DoT is applied from any source of fire damage (with a certain proc chance, in both cases).

    as far as I know, you can NOT stack multiple poisoned or burning DoTs from the same player - but I am not certain on that
    Edited by Morvul on June 25, 2015 8:53AM
  • RollDodger
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    as i told many times - this dot from lethal arrow stack with any other poison dot from poison arrow and morphs

    and this dot from lethal arron applied in 100% chance
  • Spottswoode
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    Morvul wrote: »
    RollDodger wrote: »
    lol
    rtfm
    lethal arrow applied a dot if you shoot from 28m or closer


    BsW6iP5.jpg

    that "poisoned" DoT is applied by any source of poison damage. Just like the "burning" DoT is applied from any source of fire damage (with a certain proc chance, in both cases).

    as far as I know, you can NOT stack multiple poisoned or burning DoTs from the same player - but I am not certain on that

    That is correct. It does not reset nor extend the duration of either as well. I would like to see one of the two in the future.
    RollDodger wrote: »
    as i told many times - this dot from lethal arrow stack with any other poison dot from poison arrow and morphs

    and this dot from lethal arron applied in 100% chance
    The short answer is yes, but Lethal Arrow will not reapply poisoned if you already have it active from another source.
    Op, if you are interested in dot stacking, I recommend enchanting your bow with flame damage.
    Edited by Spottswoode on June 25, 2015 9:49AM
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  • Rune_Relic
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    RollDodger wrote: »
    as i told many times - this dot from lethal arrow stack with any other poison dot from poison arrow and morphs

    and this dot from lethal arron applied in 100% chance

    http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/181895/upcoming-combat-and-effect-api-changes/p1

    Many addons are based on assumptions.
    You should check with the addon author about the guaranteed accuracy of dots
    Edited by Rune_Relic on June 25, 2015 10:01AM
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  • RollDodger
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    Rune_Relic wrote: »
    RollDodger wrote: »
    as i told many times - this dot from lethal arrow stack with any other poison dot from poison arrow and morphs

    and this dot from lethal arron applied in 100% chance

    http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/181895/upcoming-combat-and-effect-api-changes/p1

    Many addons are based on assumptions.
    You should check with the addon author about the guaranteed accuracy of dots

    what do you mean? i know about upcoming changes

    right now we have dot from lethal arrow
    applied only from 28m or closer
    100% chance
    very low damage ticks

    Edited by RollDodger on June 25, 2015 11:00AM
  • Pirhana7_ESO
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    RollDodger wrote: »
    Rune_Relic wrote: »
    RollDodger wrote: »
    as i told many times - this dot from lethal arrow stack with any other poison dot from poison arrow and morphs

    and this dot from lethal arron applied in 100% chance

    http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/181895/upcoming-combat-and-effect-api-changes/p1

    Many addons are based on assumptions.
    You should check with the addon author about the guaranteed accuracy of dots

    what do you mean? i know about upcoming changes

    right now we have dot from lethal arrow
    applied only from 28m or closer
    100% chance
    very low damage ticks

    My lethal Arrow does not apply a dot it only applies the poisoned debuff that reduces healing recieved. I think your addon is incorrect and thinking the target is taking damage when it is not. OR you might have a poison proc on your bow or from a set bonus but my Lethal never dots my target
  • Olysja
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    are 2 different dots.
    Letal Arrow = poison status (like the weapon enchant poison) and it's a small dot 100/tick or so.
    Venom Arrow&Poison Injection= big ticks 1k+

    ticks.png
    Edited by Olysja on June 25, 2015 7:47PM
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  • QuadroTony
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    RollDodger wrote: »
    Rune_Relic wrote: »
    RollDodger wrote: »
    as i told many times - this dot from lethal arrow stack with any other poison dot from poison arrow and morphs

    and this dot from lethal arron applied in 100% chance

    http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/181895/upcoming-combat-and-effect-api-changes/p1

    Many addons are based on assumptions.
    You should check with the addon author about the guaranteed accuracy of dots

    what do you mean? i know about upcoming changes

    right now we have dot from lethal arrow
    applied only from 28m or closer
    100% chance
    very low damage ticks

    My lethal Arrow does not apply a dot it only applies the poisoned debuff that reduces healing recieved. I think your addon is incorrect and thinking the target is taking damage when it is not. OR you might have a poison proc on your bow or from a set bonus but my Lethal never dots my target

    @Pirhana7_ESO you wrong
    addon says what game return there is no erros or mistakes
    also its easy to test without addons on low hp target
    just watch for hp bar

    it applied a dot effect and i prooved it many times
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