Cracked wood cave

DDuke

Turelus wrote: »

TBH this is a mechanic which still bugs me about MMO games.

Come and join a game and play with millions of other players, however if you play with more than one other you will get less EXP and thus should be more anti-social in our social based game.

Social =/= giant AoE ball of death with little to no communication

I think there's enough trains & zergs in normal PvP already, having these become a thing in dungeons as well.. no thanks.

Kupoking

Jump in the hole, get in with no trouble wheeler.

RustedValor

I love that the best grinding (public knowledge) spot is in Cracked wood cave. I come from Shadowbane, where the best xp locations were always good for pvp. The whole world was open season with inventory looting of enemy players. Ganking grinders brings back fond memories. For my actual grinding, i'll stick to my secret spot with better xp.

Helluin

houimetub17_ESO wrote: »

Jump in the hole, get in with no trouble wheeler.

... or to gank from the other side!

Rylana wrote: »

PS: To the OP, I own whatever cave I am in, feel free to try, and I say tryyyyy in a long manner there, to come take it from me.

I bet you would like to kill some of your own alliance when they enter and they don't move away.
I agree with @Garion for the approach in these situations, also in PvE areas.

Sometimes this can lead also to discussions and this is true:

Turelus wrote: »

TBH this is a mechanic which still bugs me about MMO games.

Come and join a game and play with millions of other players, however if you play with more than one other you will get less EXP and thus should be more anti-social in our social based game.

The main problem still stands and it's "grind" superior to other sources of exp.
An this is the reason why I completely dislike the endless progression of Champion System, especially AvA wise.

rfennell_ESO

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

As a side note for anyone looking to gank in caves....if the outside NPC's are dead when you ride by, there's a good chance someone is inside the cave. Just sayin....

Interesting, you do know that the delve in question has an alternate entrance via the big pit where no npcs are right?

;p~

Satiar

On the lighter side, grinding in cracked wood at low vet levels is crazy fun. Lots of unsuspecting v14s to gank!

Sacadon

driosketch wrote: »

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Winnamine wrote: »

gimpdrb14_ESO wrote: »

does not belong to you, you do no not own the mobs in there, anyone can kill, anytime they wish, stop whispering to stop leeching.

On the other hand, two people is about the max that place can handle before xp plummets for everyone.
If people are routinely asking you to stop leeching, then it sounds like you are nerfing them and yourself by grinding when there's a group already there, and you really should, out of courtesy and just common sense, go somewhere else so that you'll get more xp, and you won't nerf theirs.

Well this being the prime grind spot, perhaps players could just draw straws to decide who stays?

Lol

just in case your serious, no it's courtesy to find another spot to grind. Very simple.

ZOS_BrianWheeler

The NPC's being gone in front of cave entrances was a generic statement about all Cyrodiil cave entrances...except that "pit".

Attorneyatlawl

DDuke wrote: »

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Turelus wrote: »

TBH this is a mechanic which still bugs me about MMO games.

Come and join a game and play with millions of other players, however if you play with more than one other you will get less EXP and thus should be more anti-social in our social based game.

Social =/= giant AoE ball of death with little to no communication

I think there's enough trains & zergs in normal PvP already, having these become a thing in dungeons as well.. no thanks.

RustedValor wrote: »

I love that the best grinding (public knowledge) spot is in Cracked wood cave. I come from Shadowbane, where the best xp locations were always good for pvp. The whole world was open season with inventory looting of enemy players. Ganking grinders brings back fond memories. For my actual grinding, i'll stick to my secret spot with better xp.

Agreed wholeheartedly, and especially with you @RustedValor re: public grind spots being good pvp, not best for grinding .

driosketch

Sacadon wrote: »

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driosketch wrote: »

Winnamine wrote: »

gimpdrb14_ESO wrote: »

does not belong to you, you do no not own the mobs in there, anyone can kill, anytime they wish, stop whispering to stop leeching.

On the other hand, two people is about the max that place can handle before xp plummets for everyone.
If people are routinely asking you to stop leeching, then it sounds like you are nerfing them and yourself by grinding when there's a group already there, and you really should, out of courtesy and just common sense, go somewhere else so that you'll get more xp, and you won't nerf theirs.

Well this being the prime grind spot, perhaps players could just draw straws to decide who stays?

Lol

just in case your serious, no it's courtesy to find another spot to grind. Very simple.

Not serious, but someone should maybe create a draw straws add-on just in case.

Actual serious question, how long do you spend grinding the same spot? If I find two in there already are they still going to be there an hour later? Can't I just kill in another area of the cave, opposite your rotation through the cave? Not asking for myself.

Glory

I just wish there was a way to renounce your faction so you can get rid of people who themselves are being rude by leeching.

Just a couple days ago, I was grouped with another person in CCW, and another player of my alliance came along. I asked nicely that they do not jump in on our pulls (in no way did I say the cave was theirs). They then had the gall to demand a ransom for the cave or they'd "ruin" my grind (100k to leave? what a joke).

Please add same faction killing so I can teach these players a lesson! :P

Perphection

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

As a side note for anyone looking to gank in caves....if the outside NPC's are dead when you ride by, there's a good chance someone is inside the cave. Just sayin....

Maybe if you guys played your game you could comment on threads that are actually relevant to PvP.

Just sayin....

gimpdrb14_ESO

ebethke_ESO wrote: »

I just wish there was a way to renounce your faction so you can get rid of people who themselves are being rude by leeching.

Just a couple days ago, I was grouped with another person in CCW, and another player of my alliance came along. I asked nicely that they do not jump in on our pulls (in no way did I say the cave was theirs). They then had the gall to demand a ransom for the cave or they'd "ruin" my grind (100k to leave? what a joke).

Please add same faction killing so I can teach these players a lesson! :P

so what was that other player supposed to do? kill all the mobs before you guys got to the rooms he was in? wouldnt that also screw up your grinding?

gimpdrb14_ESO

o whenever i hear someone whining and moaning all i can think about is


https://youtube.com/watch?v=toL1tXrLA1c

but "they took our mobs"

gimpdrb14_ESO

is leeching against the TOS or COC?

LegendaryMage

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uR4xjdBS5M

Ryuho

LegendaryMage wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uR4xjdBS5M

HAHAHA

Tripwyr

driosketch wrote: »

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Sacadon wrote: »

driosketch wrote: »

Winnamine wrote: »

gimpdrb14_ESO wrote: »

does not belong to you, you do no not own the mobs in there, anyone can kill, anytime they wish, stop whispering to stop leeching.

On the other hand, two people is about the max that place can handle before xp plummets for everyone.
If people are routinely asking you to stop leeching, then it sounds like you are nerfing them and yourself by grinding when there's a group already there, and you really should, out of courtesy and just common sense, go somewhere else so that you'll get more xp, and you won't nerf theirs.

Well this being the prime grind spot, perhaps players could just draw straws to decide who stays?

Lol

just in case your serious, no it's courtesy to find another spot to grind. Very simple.

Not serious, but someone should maybe create a draw straws add-on just in case.

Actual serious question, how long do you spend grinding the same spot? If I find two in there already are they still going to be there an hour later? Can't I just kill in another area of the cave, opposite your rotation through the cave? Not asking for myself.

If I'm grinding, I'm usually there for 3-4 hours. Cracked Wood Cave can only support one serious grinder, there are 2 large sections of the cave which the player will alternate back and forth between. The grinder should be getting back to kill each pack just as it is respawning, which means that killing any group will be hurting his grind. Additionally, killing packs out of sequence can seriously hurt experience gain by causing the pack to respawn at the wrong time, sometimes requiring a full cave reset to fix.

I no longer grind in Cracked Wood; far too many inconsiderate players. If I am grinding in Cracked Wood, it is because I have a team mate camped nearby on their blue.

LegendaryMage wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uR4xjdBS5M

Why'd you have to go and give that spot away

Telel

it seems every time a faction is getting pressed on all sides, and somehow can't get more than a handful of PVPers even when pop locked these PVE leechers like to come out of their holes to beg for people to come do what they refuse to do for others.

Needless to say Telel no longer has any sympathy for these people. especially considering the tendency for them to become most abusive when it's suggested they either help out, or go to a quieter server to continue their greedy antics. Because Jone and Jode forbid that people try to PVP on a PVP server.

Pchela

Telel wrote: »

it seems every time a faction is getting pressed on all sides, and somehow can't get more than a handful of PVPers even when pop locked these PVE leechers like to come out of their holes to beg for people to come do what they refuse to do for others.

Needless to say Telel no longer has any sympathy for these people. especially considering the tendency for them to become most abusive when it's suggested they either help out, or go to a quieter server to continue their greedy antics. Because Jone and Jode forbid that people try to PVP on a PVP server.

Don't worry, me and Meth picked them off last night in the cave.

Telel

Good. Please remain in there until the campaign ends.

Telel will have leechers and moon sugar cookies delivered on a regular basis as payment for you not coming by with @Methuselah 's $%$#$#$%$ $%$#$#$# tendency to blow khajiit up.

Pchela

Telel wrote: »

Good. Please remain in there until the campaign ends.

Telel will have leechers and moon sugar cookies delivered on a regular basis as payment for you not coming by with @Methuselah 's $%$#$#$%$ $%$#$#$# tendency to blow khajiit up.

Ye, just address them to "Meth and Veleth, 123 Cracked Wood Cave, Platform A, Cyrodiil, Tamriel."

it is pretty fun to sit and gank in there, no lie, sometimes running in giant groups gets a bit tiring